When I was taking MS about 300 mgs a day I had terrible constipation. My back hurt so bad. I switched meds and down sized my dosage and I don't suffer that anymore. So thankful I found a different med, that helps with pain and doesn't block everything up. good luck

I was wondering how these X-rays went and how you are feeling? Were you referred to a specialist?

You mentioned having an appointment this week with one of your doctors, so I just wanted to see how things are going with you.

Hope you're doing okay.

Tammy

Have you considered doing a bowel cleanse like prior to surgery.I cant believe I'm suggesting that. Because I hate it!
Good luck, Jim

Sat morning 1-23 at 1:45am I woke up with a Pain that was unbelieveable. I just assumed the elephant wanted out because it sure felt like that. My pelvic area, guts were on fire. Sweat was pouring, room was spinning. I got on the toilet the elephant came out, sweat still pouring... i laid on the bathroom floor.. couldn't move.... wife is freaking out because this isn't me. I got on the toilet again... then all the sudden it was liquid.. I couldn't believe that I went from solid to liquid. Room started spinning, nausea, sweating started setting in again. I laid on the floor my wife started screaming... she grab the phone 911 911 911 the liquid was blood off the hospital tests, tests meds came home. Sunday was a repeat day as well... Changed meds added, increased some.

I guess it was bound to catch up with me because I haven't never had a problem with this issue before in all the years that I have been on pain meds. Jim, that is what I did Wed at my doctor visit. I asked the doctor "Why can't you give me the medicine you give someone that is going to have a colonscope. So he order me those meds. Since I am seen in a VA they ship all the meds to me so I should be getting them today or tomorrow.

The doctors think I have small tears in my colon.. no hemroids, fishers which they think will heal. It's been a big issue with me these past weeks

Question... Does anyone think being consapatied can increase your pain level for a lower spine issue. I think so because it could push up against the nerves from the front. is this true?

Michael

Sorry for the grammer and just spitting it out.. I am sick as a dog today gotta go lay back down

I do believe that constipation can exacerbate our lower back pain issues. I've been doing really well lately and was right on track when I started having worse LBP so I started adding 1/2 5mg percocet to my med cocktail.

The last couple of days I've had the abdominal cramps that come on like crazy then leave, only to come screaming back again and now things aren't moving as well as they had been. I'm working on this issue now and am truly hoping that that is what's causing my increased pain.

It can be such a vicious cycle - you have increased pain so you take increased meds then you have increased pain so you take increased meds...it's a Catch 22 and it's not just a simple solution. Pardon the pun, but it's a royal pain in the ass.

Cath

Dude, be really careful with the colonoscopy meds.
They did do scans, exams, tests, etc, at the hospital didn't they?
Things can tear up in there and stuff you don't want in your bloodstream and floating around loose, well, you get the picture.

I sure hope everything works out ok, no pun intended. Don't be too, macho about this. Not the right time for that! My wife lost her cousin in his 40's from colon tears and sepsis, my mom has lost about 2' of intestine due to this type of thing too!
They started doing colonoscopys on me and my brother at age 40 because of having issues with both sides of my lineage. My uncle on dad's side has a colostomy bag, mom's sister refused to acknowledge a problem till it was too late.

Yeah, I have every belief that this can make back pain worse, been there, done that. I have had a backache with constipation that went away as soon as the constipation issue was resolve, like instantly. I don't really have lower back problems either!

Take care of yourself and be careful.

Hi Michael,

I absolutely believe that constipation can increase your pain level in the lower spine. The cramping, the bloating, the intestinal distress... creates a lot of pain in the pelvic area, which can also radiate to the lower back area.

Did you have any tests done, prior to these horrible episodes? If so, what were they?

Please keep us posted with how you are doing and pump the fluids.

Tammy

I think that constipation can increase pain with lower back problems. I take a huge amount of opioids and had very bad constipation. It was a big problem about a year ago. I would try everything and even laxatives wouldnt help me and I would have to use enemas sometimes.

My doctor eventually prescribed me miralax which I take once per day. This helps greatly at keeping things regular. If youre on a big enough dose of opioids you are going to at least need a stool softener of some kind. If you still get the occasional constipation even with the miralax then an oral laxative like Dulcolax should take care of things.

Have you guys tried a Magnesium supplement? A nutritionist friend suggested I take one recently, because I've been taking so many antacids (apparently they can reduce your magnesium absorbtion). Anyway, they sure moved things along nicely (ahem!).

To Michael

Your condition, where you were fainting on the bathroom floor etc., sounds as if you were faecally impacted, because fainting and/or weakness, is the one of the (most serious) complications. The rectal bleeding you experienced then occurred as a result of trauma to your bowel.

I'm glad this is being followed up by your doctor as this problem is often not taken seriously enough.

with everything I talk about above.
Tests: Blood work only showed High White Blood cell count.

CAT-Scan... swelling in colon area, intestines, bladder.
and no roids, or fishers seen in the anal area. Test for blood in anus was positive. The local hospital doctor recommend a med to help calm my colon down to reduce the cramping. Also Pain meds which of course I refused.

Sunday VA hospital visit.
Blood work was ok... they did X-ray and told me I was consitapted but it looked ok. Also checked the anus area and agreed no roid or fishers but thought that I may have small tears inside walls of colon. test result also showed blood in anus. The VA ER doctor Added Lactulose 10GM/15ml to the mix instead of taking just Docusate NA 100MG cap. So I was to switch to the Lactulose and stop the Docusate caps. I have a primary Doctor within the VA system and he was working the ER sunday as well but I didn't see him. But I did say hi to him.

OK here's where it gets interesting.
No bowel movenment Sunday, Monday, Tues, Weds.

On Wedensday I had a follow up appt with my primary VA doctor to go over my blood test from a week prior to this mess. I woke up wed in a ton of cramping, gas and the feeling i had to go. I sit on tolilet pushed a little but nothing... notta but I still wiped just in case.. there was some blood on the paper but nothing else. The cramping was getting worst and worst so I jumped in the shower got done. The cramping wasn't letting up... so I laid down for a while and started sweating again.. Shit.... So I called my wife and told her that she was going to have to come and get me because I wasn't going to be able to drive to my appt. She dropped the kids off at school and came got me.

My appt time was 8:40 I got there at 9:08... The lady at the front desk said my primary doctor and his nurse said "If Mr. Michael shows up tell him he is late and will need to reschuled".. I explain to the lady everything i talked about above and ask her to inform the doctor of this stuff that was going on and the blood I found again. She came back and said "sorry you will have to reschule" your kidding me right.. I asked to speak with the clinic adminsterator... explained everything to her... same story but they had a opening at 3:30pm... I told her I couldn't make that because we would have to pick up the kids from school then.. I told her that the doctor was incompelted because he knew that I had been having tons of problems and I was in the ER over this issue and I was still bleeding on the inside somewhere... This didn't matter to them. We left...

I called a patient advocate about this issue... she said "You need to go to the ER" I couldn't handle the ride all the way up to the VA ER so the more I thought about it... the more madder I got... I called back to the clinic and told them that I would see them at 3:30pm. I told the doctor what I thought about him not seeing me and thought that it was BS that over the course of the last 4 years I have never been late to a appt before but I have had to wait several times on them. it was a backforth deal and I asked him if there was anything showing in my blood work he said no... then we talked about my problems I been having... i asked about taking the meds they give someone before having a colon exam for that drug and he said ok he would prescrip it for me. he told me to start taking the Lactulose 3 times a day instead of 2 times and to start taking the Docusate NA 100mg again. He then checked my anus by a visual check only looking on the outside only. No insert of the finger... just spread em' look then my wife said Michael is starting to wheeeze at night while sleeping. He had been given a inhaler but it was out of date it seem to help can you give him another one or check his chest sounds. He ignored this... I just shook my head and started to stand up. I said You know I was really scared this morning about that blood and you refusing to see me.

He said No you were not, I said excuse me? You don't think I wasn't worried. He said Oh, I believe you were worried but you were not.. I was not what?? He just kept saying No you were not. I said are you talking about No I was not bleeding.. He said Yes, because if you would have been you would have gone to the ER. I said.... I have been bleeding for the past 4 days.... I knew I was coming back over here. The point is this... This morning you refused to see me even after you were told I was bleeding. he stated again.. NO you were not... I told him I couldn't believe he was calling me a lair about bleeding...since both ER test showed blood the days before.. I then pulled out a voice actived tape record and said... Hmmm, maybe i should record this... he said go ahead I will say it again.. I think he was shocked to see the little disk was already running... Tomorrow I will be contacting the lady at the Main VA hospital about this issue. Unbelieveable....

Thank God he doesn't treat my spine (nor would I let him) he is only a paper writer. The pain clinic and NS do all my spine issues. I am also glad it's election year here too... I will be contacting them as well. I didn't call the main hospital thurs, friday because the lady I deal with about this clinic was out until Monday. I have had to get her involved a bunch with this VA clinic. They are really bad... really bad.. Once I speak with her on Monday, I will post the name of this contracted company that runs this clinic... I would love for them to sue me.... I will tell them just like I told Medtronic... Go ahead... I have proof of everything... sue away and lets see who wins.

Now... I am starting to have better results going to the bathroom... with just the increase in Lactulose and taking the Docusate. I still have 3 to 4 area in my stomach that i get sharp pains in and still feel bloated.. I have been drinking tons of bottled water as well. I am still passing alot of blood as well but not to concerned because the catscan and x-ray didn't show any blockage. I guess it would show bad tears as well. I think that I have small tears in my colon like the ER doctor thought. Oh.. the VA ER doctor also gave me Hydrocortisone 1/Pramoxine 1% cream to inject up in there to help heal the tears.

Well that's all the S**t I have to talk about.. LOL LOL

Michael

Sorry you're having all this problems. I think you should follow up with a GI Dr. for a colonoscopy. But glad you're feeling better after all that. Take care. Charry

As you know, as Lactulose passes through the colorectal system, it reabsorbs water from the body, thus making the stool softer. However the side-effects are production of gas, bloating, swelling and cramps.

I'm very surprised your doctor disbelieved you were still bleeding, as rectal trauma / tears / fissures, just don't heal overnight.

As I said in an earlier post, this subject does not seem to be taken seriously enough. I'm wondering whether you've ever tried Movicol, but hopefully lactulose will work for you.

Good luck and may the next few days be productive!

I really hope the medication continues to help you and will keep you regular.

What a nightmare you have been through!

Have you been referred to a GI doctor, by chance? My mouth dropped open when I read how your doctor treated you. With the amount of blood you have been passing, I would definitely follow up with a specialist. I don't know how the referral process works with the VA, but I would be sure to ask the gal you speak with tomorrow about getting a second opinion from a GI doctor. It's not every day you hear of someone passing blood like this. Know what I mean? It's worth having some expert eyes and ears check you over.

Take good care and please continue to let us know how you're doing.

I hope and pray the worst is over for you, Michael.

Tammy

Monday I called the lady at the main VA hospital and left her a message. Since she was out last week I figured I would give her a couple days to return my call. The primary Doctor still hasn't ordered the things we talked about before he became a dumbbutt. Still drinking that stuff and taking the softner... drinking tons of water. The corn test has shown a 14-21 day turn around time.. from entry to exit. to me that's not good.. Tonight I feel like my gut is going to pop. no pain but tightness and a feeling that i would feel better throwing up.. TONS OF GAS I am worst then the dog now... and he is really a room clearer too. Still have a couple area's that are tender to the touch.... but i think that's about it... oh.. thirsty all the time as well.. but i think that is a side effect of the new stuff.. drink, drink.. and I have developed the muchies... never had that before.. feel the need to eat more.. don't make sense.. Well I will let you know tomorrow if I hear from her. Or I will be driving to the main VA hospital myself.

Michael

I just wanted to say sorry that you are going through this. My step-father has to go through the VA and he has problems all the time from them.

I hope your $h*t gets better LOL

I have a theory:
This doctor was using an unconventional way of giving you the sh^&'s Maybe he's really a genius in disguise!
On a more serious note, be careful when you strain on the toilet, the fainting you had sounds like what's called a vasovagal, i've had plenty of patients collapse on me in the toilet following back surgery when I was a nurse. Probably best to look up what a vasovagal is rather than rely on my dodgy description.

Yes, immyali's right. Faecal impaction is where you become so constipated, that when you strain, it causes a vasovagal attack which produces fainting.

If it's any consolation, I've seen vasovagal attacks in strong healthy medical students (usually male) whilst they're just watching blood be taken from a patient! As soon as the needle goes into the arm, down they go like dominoes.

It's very different in your case, but the theory behind it remains the same. It's not life-threatening so please don't worry. The greatest risk to your health would be if you hit your head whilst you lose consciousness, so it might be a good idea to have someone in the bathroom, just until this passes (unpleasant as that may sound).

I know sometimes we say you're full of it, but I never thought literally!!! LOL Sorry, not to poke fun at your situation, it's a pretty crappy thing to go through... Ok, ok, I know, enough of the potty humour (sorry, I just can't stop now!!)
In all seriousness, I hope that you are able to find help here, that something doesn't happen that you get a tear in your bowel. Once in your bloodstream, this will cause septicemia, which can be fatal, and it's not a fun thing to go through, I did, from a strep a infection, it was pretty scary, let me tell you.
I suffer from constipation, and have since being on all these meds. With it, I get so bloated, my tummy protrudes so much and is rock hard. It is painful, and does cause pain in my back too. I take fibre supplements, try to eat as much bran and prunes as I can, and of course drink lots of water. However, this usually just causes gassiness and more bloating, but eventually I'm able to - well, you know. (I can't believe I'm writing about this, right now, I'm so thankful for anonynimity!!!) Tonight, I had to resort to taking the max dose of an all natural laxative, and finally got some relief after I'm not sure how many days, but once it worked, which thankfully was very quickly, the pressure was off, and my back felt so much better.
Anyways, I hope that you find answers quickly, and get the help you need and get better!!!

I have increased pain when badly constipated.

PLEASE write down the name of this medication so you can ask about it. I ended up getting really badly constipated and made and ER visit due to scary, horrible cramping. Went to the PM to discuss this and knowing I had tried everything, they told me to try

RELISTOR

This is an injection I give myself and it turns off the opiates in the intestines ONLY. It does not affect the pain meds otherwise in the body. Does not put you in withdrawals. Simply reverses the effects of opioids in the bowel.

This stuff is AMAZING. It is prescribed to be given every other day, but I only use it about once a week. I'm sure everyone is different. But if I use it once a week, I find I do go a little on my own.

This med comes in individual kits that include everything you need - alcohol wipes, the med vial, the automatically retracting needle, instructions. The actual needle is the smallest, shortest needle you have ever seen and does not hurt. The medication burns a tiny bit upon injection, but going slowly helps with that.

This medication originally came out to help terminal patients with their bathroom needs. But last May, a study came out stating it also worked well for folks like us on long-term opiods. This medication has changed my life and I try to mention it when I hear of these constipation issues. I honestly don't know why it isn't mentioned more often.

Giving myself an injection does not bother me as I've given hubby allergy and other injections through the years.

What happens after the injection - within 4 hours, I will have completely empty bowels. It rarely ends with diarrhea. Today, it started within 20 minutes, and I was done in 1.5 hours. I do have to keep by the bathroom - I will take my computer and just rest on the bed for the multiple trips. I generally do not experience cramping or that awful "something is wrong down there" pain, but just repeated urgency for a few hours. If I take the shots too often or too close together, I can get diarrhea and that's why I space it to about once a week (discovered through trial and error to be best for me).

A doctor won't give you this shot because you likely won't make it home before the urgency sets in. (I asked.)

RELISTOR - look it up online and see what you think. I really wish more clinics would at least let folks try this to see if they would like something like this. I have absolutely not other side effects, other than feeling like a million bucks afterwards. Starting off feeling VERY constipated, very full........taking the injection......a few hours later? Free, empty, energetic. lol

The study from May is also available online. I do not have a link for it, but have found it easily whenever I search for it, in case you want to take a copy to your doc.

For me, no more anxiety about constipation. I KNOW I have a plan, and I get no more pain from all the impacted, bigger bowel. In fact, when I start feeling that way, I know it is time for a shot.

Good luck!

Cheri

for being cheeky to you Michael. I overdid it with the laxatives and spent ALL night on the loo and still going.
I knew I was full of it, but didn't realise just how much until now.

Just was wondering how things went with the VA hospital call and if the new medication you were prescribed is helping.

Let us know, when you can.

Tammy

I haven't seen Michael around since he last posted here, I PM'd him but no reply yet. I hope he's ok.

Kylie

I am hangin in there... still full of s**t that new stuff doesn't do anything. I should get something new in the mail tomorrow as long as the mail runs excepting 4-7 inches of snow tonight, tomorrow. I say bring it on.. I want to see about 30 inches then i would be happy. I have been busy with my kids sports, super bowl party for son's buddy's, and his 16th birthday. We got 2 inches of snow the other day but wasn't enough for me. I got a new atv with a snow blade so I am wanting to try it out. I did everyone's drive way and sidewalks even riding that atv my spine killed me but hey it's better then sitting in my chair or laying in bed all day. Might as well have some fun doing something.
thanks added note as well... I started making fishing lures as a hobby. just had a bait shop call and wants 3000 jigs so I have been melting lead and making at least 200 a day as well. I am soooo happy that i have that order as it gives me a sign that i am alive and folks will be catching fish with something that I made. I got a laptop so I am in bed but it's almost mid night or i would post that new drug but i think it's that stuff they give someone before they have a colon snake thru them. OUCH... i just hope it works. I will ask him about the injection stuff as well. Something has gotta give soon. The bleeding has stopped so that is a good sign. I think that's about it... OH IT'S HERE IT'S HERE THE SNOW IF FALLING.. GO GO GO
Michael

sorry it's the drugs that make me forget to post stuff. I called the lady at the main VA hospital and I have set up a meeting with the person that runs all the clinics here. I told them about my tape recording and they wanted me to send it to them. notta chance in hell. I told them i will be bringing it with me. She asked me what my intentions was with the tape. I told her it's election year. I am sure these senators will be interested in hearing it. So i think that will get her heavy into this issue. ok... i think that it
Michael

I'm glad to hear you're feeling better. I think it's awesome you help people clear their snow! We have a shared driveway with 2 ladies next door and my husband ends up doing the most of the driveway with a shovel and all our other neighbors and snowthrowers that haven't even helped us even though they know I have a bad back and Michael has a bum knee. i like neighborly stuff like that. Hope your scope goes well. Yes they sedate you, I had it done when I had food poisoning and after effects was air relieved by a fleet. Good luck. Charry

I just caught up with this thread. I guess the one question I have is when was your last colonoscopy? Not sure of your age but if you have not had one now would be a good time to get one. If they have not ordered one is there a reason they are not doing it. i went through a similar issue as you are with the bleeding, and it was polps. Took the polps out and problem solved. Now i have the problems still with the constipation but it is coming from my spine. When it gets real bad we do a injection and helps it tremendously. Anyway please check into a colonoscopy I have a cousin who is passing from colon cancer that should have been caught she was told it was roids and now she is paying the ultimate price for it. Not that I am saying you have anything like that at all. Just a colonoscopy would be a very good idea at this point and time. Hope your feeling better.

Glad to see your doing better. I got your snow. Had 24 inches dropped on us last Saturday and another 12 inches coming today. What time can I expect you to be over with the ATV? The Saturday storm broke one of my shovels and the snow blower (didn't do very well anyways, although I did fix it last night).

Charry, I share a driveway also and my daughters and I shoveled the majority of it ourselves. My ahole neighbor just made it worse by driving on top of it and packing it down. To top it off, my daughter heard them claiming ownership to the great job that they did to someone walking down the street.

Back on topic, Michael have you ever tried Mirolax? I'm on day 4 of taking it and things are just starting to free up for me. According to the label it should open the flood gates in 8-12 hours, but I've found that if I take it over an extended period of time, I'm able to reset things back to a reasonable state so I can start the fun all over again.

Dave

Ok
Here are the items I got in the mail today.
Enema, Phosphate 4-1/2oz bottles... 8 of them..
Magnesium Citrate

Still taking Lactulose 2 tablespoons 4 times a day
Taking 2 Docusate 100mg a day...

They said this Magnesium Citrate will do the trick... about to find out if the flood gates open...

I eat shredded wheat everyday for lunch.

haven't tried Mirolax yet. I will be giving these items a go in about an hour...

I will let you guys know. I hate this bloated feeling.

Michael

If you can drink the magnesium citrate with ginger ale it can help the mc go down easier. Been there done that five times in my lifetime. Also be sure to drink a lot of water. I have had to drink a gallon jug of Golytly which should be called Goalot. Good Luck. My husband just had an mri on his colon today because of bleeding and having to strain. He's never had a problem with that end before till now. He also has VA issues
Happy Trot
Marla

it's been 5 hours and 31 mins... and still nothing from drinking my lemon flavored Magnesium Citrate

Alot of rubbling going on but nothing coming out the back side. I guess I will drink another one in the morning to see if that helps. They gave me 6 bottles to drink 1 daily. I have been drinking the heck out of water to the point I think I am drowning and slosh when I walk. So it can't be lack of water in the system. Any thoughts? I am begining to think this could be more then just stopped up. hmmmm............. oh just in case I did go I stepped on the scales. wanted to know how much weight I have been carrying around. forgot.. hic up's really bad since drinking that stuff... had the 1st time about an hour and then wife gave me honey.. gone away for 3 hours now they are back again. strong ones... lol rock the whole bed while I was lying down.

Michael

I used it for my pre surgery clean out. let it flow let it flow ..let it flow. Glue your ass to the toilet seat!!!
good luck, Jim

going on 12 hrs since I drink the bottle. nothing happen except alot of rumbling... I guess it's time to drink bottle 2 The doctor told me Drinking this stuff will clean you out quickly.

Michael

I hope it starts working for you Michael. TC Charry

Dave: Yes that's always the way someone trying to take credit for something they did once or barely touched the driveway. ..
My husband was doing all the driveway then the youngest Lady came out and said 'no no we'll do ours'. Then the nice one came out and said 'thank God for neighbors and my husband said."See it's nice to have a man around sometimes!" We were all laughing. Anyway the one lady is the best neigbour ever for real.

Teaspoon of sugar will make the Hiccups go away. Crossing my finger that today is the day.

Dave

Wow...before I go for my colon test they had me take one of those bottles and literally 15 minutes later I was glued to the toilet. I imagine it does the same thing if I would drink some epsom salts. Something about Magnesium.

I am really surprised two bottles and just rumbling. I would contact the doc and tell them that. I am not sure if they expect you will need 5 bottles to start. That seems a bit much but I am no doctor.

Please be careful as I understand too much of that stuff can have harmful side effects.

-js

This may be a dumb question but are you eating regularly or cutting back cause of the stomach issues. Are you have some fiber everyday. I eat atleast a 1/2 cup of all bran every morning to stay regular as it does make a difference to my LBP.

Have you tried a Dulcolax suppository? I don't know if you can take it with everything else or if you've already tried it, but in the history of BMs, I've never seen anything work like this. It's totally amazing.

Good luck. I bet that this will be the only forum in history to have a party when we find out somebody pooped.

Please be careful if you have a lot of pain. I do know people who have had blockages and torsions. Hope it all comes out OK! (ha ha ha)

You are going to have some painful cramping and it may take several trips to the bathroom to empty everything out.

Vomiting is not normal and if this should happen, seek medical attention at once.

I say this only from experience. I had a fecal impaction during pregnancy and nothing worked at home.

I will spare you the details of the ER visit, in hopes that this medication does the trick for you.

Tammy

I am concerned that you've already had two bottles and nothing has happened.
Please call your doctor, in all my nursing years I never saw anyone need two bottles of bowel prep.
Everything is probably fine and you're just being stubborn but just in case please call your doctor, you may have something that requires a look-see.
Take care and may the potty angel be with you.
Kylie

that's bad Michael. Really. 1 bottle should clean you out big time. Before my surgery I got through 1/2 bottle. The 2nd - 1/2 bottle I ran for the bathroom. Needles to say I was not full of $h1t afterwards. Quite the contrary. I also avoided having to do an enema because it works so good. I also take it in pill form almost daily to help regulate myself. It is one of the more easier going stool softeners and bowl movers I have ever taken.

I don't know if it is the drugs like the opiates. But there is a difference between the drugs make you constipated vs you are completely blocked and stacking it up internally. I'd be going in for a colonoscopy too. If for no other reason that to get the roto-rooter job to undo whatever is blocking you up so bad.

Once you get this resolved. Maybe consider a dietary change. I've gone from a bad diet to more healthy. Fruit for breakfast and salad for lunch. I now go to the bathroom every day! I do mix in some whole grain and stuff in my breakfast. Cut way down on dairy and meats. I'm just trying this for now but it helps a lot with regulating my body in this respect.

Good luck. Graham

Have you tried eating a daily bowl of good old fashioned Raisen Bran? I did - and it really keeps me cleaned out. I go several times a day now...used to go only 1-2 a week (if at all).

Having that in you WILL increase your pain and make you sick to boot. Just general overall not well feeling that none of us needs, ya?

Regards,
~jasro

I drank my second bottle this morning. I had a very little result. I eat sheddred wheat for lunch everyday. I drink about 5 bottles of water everyday. I just got done sitting in the hot tub at 104 maybe it will melt some of it down. LOL I kept reply to this topic because I felt that maybe some out there are to afraid to talk about it. I am not shy :)~ because crap happens. I thank each of you for your comments, thoughts, suggestions etc.

I put in the subject line for someone to Suck it up.. Then posted about things they need to do to help find answers to their problems. I was given a warning for telling someone you gotta suck it up. I am sure each of us have had to just Suck it up and keep driving ourselves while we seek answers. I am sorry folks but telling someone to suck it up isn't a attack. I am finding it harder and harder to maintain a positive feeling about this site. So if I get banned then you all know why...

Michael

While sitting in the hot tub feels great on the back and bones, I don't think it's going to get things moving for you.

You need to start moving...

You should try to walk and drink something hot, like tea or coffee, to help stimulate the intestines.

Don't go too far from home while walking... you need to be close to your bathroom.

Tammy