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workmans comp pain drs vs regular pain drs

terror8396tterror8396 Posts: 1,832
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:23 AM in Chronic Pain
maybe someone can enlighten me. it seems to your humble poster that the topic comes back to pain drs and people not getting a good one. i was wondering if people who have no problems with pain drs who are compasionate and understanding and non judgemental are on regular insurance,ppo. are most people who have judgemental and non compasionate pain drs get them through workman's comp. it seems to me that the majority of people on this site suffer through workman's comp and are not being treated through regular insurance, ppo or hmo. it is just an observation on my part and i could be wrong. so the BIG QUESTION IS: are you on workman's comp and have problems with pain drs? are some of you on regular insurance and also having problems with pain drs. it seems that wc really screws with people and harrasses them with nagging and stalking patients. i know wc people who have had pictures taken of them and are refused treatments like mris and meds. i am glad i have regular insurance,ppo, and don't have to deal with wc drs and case managers
please let me know. it seems to me that problems would disappear if some were on a ppo and not wc. too bad some of you can't change. i feel your pain

jon
I have 4 fusions from L5-3, the latest last May '12 where they fixed my disc that broke.They went through my side this time. I take 40 mg of oxycontin 4x a day and 4 fenatyl lollipops 300 micro gms 4x a day.
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  • yea i have no complaints about my drs or my ppo also. i feel for people on wc and the hassles they have to endure. it seems that wc drs are the bottom of the barrel and show little to no compassion. they also seem to think all people on wc are trying to scam the system. women at my dr told me she came in to get pain med refills and her casemanager was waiting for her and took her to rehab to dry out. he said she did not need pain meds at all. i was on wc for one week and dr prescribed fenatyl suckers but wc would not pay, too expensive. so dr and wc made a deal, dr would take me off wc after a week and they would give me the fenatyl suckers. waiting for them to decide this gave me a headache. i waited at pharmacy for 2 hours waiting for them to make this deal. NO WC FOR THIS DUDE. at work i can be treated by my own dr instead of wc dr if i get hurt at work
    jon
    I have 4 fusions from L5-3, the latest last May '12 where they fixed my disc that broke.They went through my side this time. I take 40 mg of oxycontin 4x a day and 4 fenatyl lollipops 300 micro gms 4x a day.
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,733
    I too have had excellent services from my pain management doctor. She has been taking care of me for over two years now and our doctor/patient relationship is a good as it gets.

    When I've read some of the negative stories about pain management doctors, I want to know more... Is it the patient ?
    Is the doctor? or is it partially both? I dont know.

    But it does seem that when you start to unravel some of this situations, many of the negative experiences come from patients who have to deal with Workman's Comp. It does seem unfair that they have to go see who they are only allowed to see and their times are limited. I've read a few recent posts by folks that have to use Workman's Comp, it does seem like an unfair and difficult thing to deal with.

    I know there is no easy answer, but it does remind me that when I read a post about a member have a difficult time with their doctors, I will spend more time to see if they are dealing with comp issues.
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • Yes, it seems that I am getting treated differently since I am on workmans comp. claim. I tried to change doctors and they said no way would they touch me. Number one, it was an open claim and number 2 it was a back problem. I just about cried when they turned me away. They also added that they would be surprised if any doctor would take me on at this point.

    So now I am stuck with a Doctor whom I do not trust and does not take anything I say seriously. He just pats me on the head and tells me that we are working on it. Whatever!
  • ..as far as I can throw them in my present condition, 16 weeks post op fusion. I think they're med school rejects. I wouldn't let my pets near them. My husband had Dr.Iam Moron, and he told him it was a muscle strain and not work related. Then it was reviewed by the adjuster, I think, and he was sent to another one. This one was better, and took him off work immediately, and referred him to a specialist. He got his MRI and they all decided he needed surgery. Then WC denied all benefits at the 11th hour right before they would operate. Way to go Comp image:)" alt=">:)" height="20" />
    Fortunately, I don't have to deal with them. I'm treated well at PM, and they are nice and listen to their patients. Yes,it's less hassle and drama being treated by a private doctor.
  • can't some of you change from wc drs to your regular dr. i know at my school we can fill out a form and designate our regular drs for wc if we get injured. it goes to the district office. can some of you do this? can you change from wc drs to regular drs? it seems unfair that you get stuck with a turkey dr instead of one that you know and feel good about

    jon
    I have 4 fusions from L5-3, the latest last May '12 where they fixed my disc that broke.They went through my side this time. I take 40 mg of oxycontin 4x a day and 4 fenatyl lollipops 300 micro gms 4x a day.
  • My doctor is not a WC doctor. In our state you can pick whatever Doctor you would like as long as the Doc wants to deal with the redtape of workmans comp.

    The trouble lies in when you want to change Doctors and other Doctors don't want to jump into the middle of an already open claim especially if it is back related.
  • From what Suzie wrote, it's like WC goes out of its way to disprove it, or bounce you around, or turn you into a pariah?
    I thinks it's better to see your own doctor and let him take over your treatments and referrals, and then with a lawyer submit it all to WC. That way you know you'll get treated the way you should, and not have to deal with the red tape.
    But I know you have to eat too. You need their check that undercuts your usual wage. They send you to substandard doctors, or they are in bed with them, so they can get a nice kickback from the carrier for denying your case.
    I know there are people that have abused the system, and that is why WC is the way it is. But the way they are going about it is by killing a fly with machine gun.
    They need to be fair. They need to take care of workers, hence their name. I think they have forgotten. Hasn't a worker with a back injury suffered enough already, and then has to put up with shoddy treatment and surveillance?
  • one of the main complaints drs have about wc for backs that it is the most abused injury in the minds of wc drs. they have people coming in complaining of back pain from a fall and sometimes they won't order an mri due to being too expensive. so in the back of their minds they think that if you have back pain you are faking. hence the stalking of patients and taking pictures. back injuries are hard to prove sometimes. you can have a negative mri but still have back pain hence you are faking it in their minds. the best thing is to have an mri if they let you. if not confront them with if you think i am faking let me have an mri and i will prove you wrong. i will never go to a wc dr as long as i can help it.

    jon
    I have 4 fusions from L5-3, the latest last May '12 where they fixed my disc that broke.They went through my side this time. I take 40 mg of oxycontin 4x a day and 4 fenatyl lollipops 300 micro gms 4x a day.
  • Tell them, talk to the MRI. And pay up!
  • I am self-employed but do pay in to workmans comp. I am on light duty at work so workmans comp is paying me ZERO. They are only paying for my medical treatment.

    If I were employed by someone I would not be going to work but when you are self employed you really don't have a choice. I don't trust hiring anyone to what I do and couldn't afford it anyway.
  • anyone want to make an educated guess about the percent of members on this site are workman's comp? i would guess 75%. i have no way of knowing of course but by reading, most of posters seem to be wc. i feel so sorry for all of you if i am correct in my guess

    jon
    I have 4 fusions from L5-3, the latest last May '12 where they fixed my disc that broke.They went through my side this time. I take 40 mg of oxycontin 4x a day and 4 fenatyl lollipops 300 micro gms 4x a day.
  • I don't know that I would be treated any different if I were using my regular insurance. I honestly think Doctors don't like to deal with back issues especially if the pain cannot be substantiated (sp) by an MRI.
    A client of ours is a ER Doctor and he gets lots of drug seekers in and their complaint is usually back pain. That's why I am afraid to even go to the ER, and there has been times I really wanted to. Besides the most they will do is give you a shot of demerol and send you home. Temporary relief. I am looking for long term relief.
  • Suzie, I wish there was a better solution for you. I wish there was someone there to help you at your business.
    I concur about not wanting to go to the ER for back problems. Unless they do an MRI or Cat Scan, they'll just give you the look, and send in the nurse to give you shots. I have avoided this type of crap by being referred to the ER by a doctor. When I get there, I say I was sent by Dr. SO and SO, and they call and chat, and decide my treatment. I went once before I had my herniation diagnosis; it was suspected; and the ER doc was nice to me. I have run into him several times, and the staff knows me, and I get treated well They know I have real back problems, and not a turkey.
    But I haven't gone there for that since I started at pain mgt. They did send me when I developed a spinal headache, and I told triage that I'm a PM patient. She said, we've been expecting you.
    Suzie, I don't remember, but do you have pain meds to help you at work?
  • I have not had any pain meds in over 2 months. The short of it is my Doctor felt I had been on them long enough. I even asked yesterday about neurontin or Lyrica and he looked in his book of drug interactions and said that he didn't feel comfortable giving them to me since I was taking Remeron for anxiety. Remember this Doctor is a D.O. and believes more in healing through the hands than giving medications.

    I looked up the drug interactions on the internet and it there was low interaction between the drugs. They might intensive drowsiness, which would be fine with me, I would love to just sleep the day away.
  • I injured my back in 1995 on the job at a state universty. I filed my claim with WC and was approved. I have been seeing the same Dr all this time. I guess I must be lucky because me personal Dr is also my WC Dr. WC has always paid for what ever treatment my Dr has ordered. WC didn't even balk when my Dr placed me on permenant disabilty. I just wanted to put a ray of sunshine on a subject that seems to be very problematic for so many people.
    .... Rodney...
  • So far WC has not balked on any of my treatments and I am seeing my personal doctor as well. This could be that they are not having to pay lost wages as I am on light dutie. It may be a different story if they were paying my medical and wages as well.
  • well, i have been dealing with the WC system myself for 5 months now. I can tell you the first dr that they sent me to was a occupational health dr and he did NO xrays, drugged me up and sent me to pt. Mind you , i drive a 18 wheeler, i went in with right knee pain, neck pain, back pain, right shoulder pain/burning, right upper and forarm pain. but he did NO xrays and told me i could do modified duty. which means as a trucker you basically have to take a bus to your companies terminal, the one mine wanted me to take a busride to was over 600 miles away. I told him that it was extremely painful to drive or even RIDE in a vehicle. But he still put me on modified duty. I turned it down so i got NO Wc checks. Once i moved to a different state to be by family who were more able to help me with my day to day needs, taking a shower, brushing hair etc i saw a new dr. he put me OFF work , had me get xrays that day and a nerve conduction test the following week (like 3 days later). He said i shouldnt be working until we found out what was exactly going on. The company i work for didnt agree with it, so they stopped covering my appts to see my dr. he wanted me to see a pain management dr. They had me see one of theirs for an IME, he said no more treatment needed and to do modified duty. I have to say i did try. I drove 150miles to do what they wanted me to, now they put you up in a hotel but dont pay for anything going towards food etc. and yes this is legal for them to take you away from those who help take care of you. So i went to work, the first day within an hour i was calling my employer that handles WC and told her i needed to see a dr. They had no problem getting me in to see another one of THEIR drs. that day, he said continue modified duty, even if it hurt me to look down for more than a minute, sit to long, stand to long, or do anything repetative with my right arm. BUT he said i do need to see a pain management dr.
    so it has been since july since i have been able to see my dr. and it has been 3 weeks and they are still fighting on me seeing a pain management dr. Becuase i didnt do the modified duty until i was told no more i recieve NO MONEY as in my weekly wc checks.
    I do have an attorney but we are having to sue the company to get them to pay for the medical care.
    I am happy for those of you who dont have to go thru this. I mean i am sad all of us are in pain, but you all are very lucky, talk to anyone who has had to deal with WC and they will tell you most likely the same story i am.
    We have to wait until the company sees fit or a judge tell them they have to pay for your medical care and pay.
    sorry so long but i did want to let you all know exactly what we go thru. If i could use my insurance to get my medical care for my injuries i would . but because i was hurt at work physicans wont see you because it is work related. talk about a kick in the teeth
  • Yes I have found that the same thing is happening to me but sort of in reverse. The State has no problem with me seeing another Doctor even if it is just for a second opinion but what is happening to me is no Doctor wants to see me because number 1, its an open claim and number 2, its a back issue. The one office I tried to get in to said they would be surprised if any other doctor in the city would see me. So now I am stuck with a Doctor (my choice)that won't listen to me and will not give me any pain meds to help me out while we get this thing figured out. Had I known what sort of doctor he would turn out to be I would have chosen another doctor. You can't win.
  • You need to get rid of that doctor,if he is no help to you,why on earth do you stay with him?....
  • unfortunetly when we are dealing with WC it is a totally different ballgame. We have to see Dr's that they approve of us seeing. Wether it is our own PCP or one of theirs. They wont approve to pay for changing drs very often.
  • Jon,
    Although the concept of equality may seem favourable it is clear that having a WC agenda must influence that impartiality however miniscule, as has been said we are tainted by all those within the threshold of eligibility in that we may be treated less favourable as a consequence, and that is part of life. Even those that may have been deemed eligible by the symptoms is no guarantee of acceptance and the nearer that invisible line became the harder for anyone to give a feasible diagnosis. Many here exist on the periphery of good evaluation or diagnosis and rather a grey area.

    Some of the specialists here do have expertise in insurance and compensation claims and predominately do this work solely based on the expertise that they have, it is a complex and difficult assessment and not as absolute that your MRI would prove positive your claim, it may well support the notion that nothing can be proved.

    I have had a few specialists in my time and they were never going to contradict each other, or question each others integrity, every specialist can have an individual process for the future and the more I had seen, the more diversity of opinions I acquired. I was after a solution not another five possibilities.

    Some of this categorising leaves you in limbo neither fit for work or eligible for the required support that would need as a consequence of not being able to work, which seem rather illogical to even the most simplest of souls. Once we adopt that insurance culture in England we will see that eligibility decline, where the necessary and mandatory provision is denied, for medication to PT and which doctor will see you, here we may still have to wait a long time, but every day see’s us higher up that inexorable queue.

    Take care and good luck.

    John




  • When an injury is a WC issue, there truly does seem to be a sort of discrimination that happens to the patient. Remember, most docs who deal almost exclusively with third parties, have incentive to get the patient off WC benefits and back to work. And some of the less scrupulous or jaded ones, will be extra vigilant in doing so. It is their main objective.

    Many primary docs choose not to be involved with WC cases, as the paperwork is unbelieveable. And many WC insurers will not allow a claimant to see anyone but their assigned doctors. I really feel for those who get caught up in the beauracracy of WC.

    The first PM doc that I ever saw, was known for doing WC and personal injury lawsuits and he had a reputation for being on the side of whoever put the most money in his pockets. If he was being paid to be an "expert" in a court case, he almost always sided with the insurance company. The few exceptions were those poor souls who had glaringly obvious MRI's and CT Scans, showing irrefutable damage.

    Even though my case was not WC, I was applying for SSDI. So, that first doc had to report to another entity, from whom I was seeking benefits. I always felt that he treated me the way he did, because of that. He always tried to convince me that what I was experiencing was "the simple effects of ageing". I was only 38 or 39 at the time, and I knew most people my age did not have the constant agony that I did. I found a different PM doc and have been with him ever since. What a difference!

    Best of luck to all of you who have a third party involved in your diagnosis and treatment. My best advice would be to do the research, to see if you can switch to a different doc, who isn't part of "the system". For those who simply can not do so, please don't ever let them bully you into giving up. My fondest thoughts are with you all. Mitzi
  • Hey there,

    I ijured my arm at work and I have to say I was in the midst of several different things going on in life.

    Besides the arm injury I was also having terribel female issues and had already had one surgery for that a few months prior to the work injury.

    SO here is what happened with my comp injury. I had one part of my injury that was not so serious...Carpal tunnel, but right from the begining while I was still working with my injury I had to be very persistent to get what I needed from them. I mean sometimes I would call 8 times in one day to make sure they were pushing me through the system.

    When it came time to send me to a doctor/surgeon for my wrist I asked them for the list of docs I could choose from ...Just like Iwould do with my regualr Insurance. I picked the doctor.
    After the first surgery I had another about 4 months after to repair a tear in my wrist that was somilar to a torn maniscus. This surgery failed and I was pretty devastated and in a lot of pain. Because of the first and second surgeries and my arm being placed into a long arm cast for so long two times in a row I developed a problem with my elbow they would not even be recognizide for well over a year of caompaints.

    But my first hand surgeon wanted to send me to a doc 3,000 miles a way for a special surgery. If I did not have that particular surgery they would need to Fuse my wrist with metal plates.

    They had sent me to PM and wanted me to see a PM in my home town whom I had heard nothing but bad things about. I refused to go to that doctor! Once again I said I wanted a list of docs within a cetain milage radious and they gave me a list to choose frrom. I picked one that is about 27 miles one way, but this doc was a great doc.
    He really listened to me. Even though he had to ahndle things in the WC fashion it never ever seemed to be any issue for him at all.

    When it came time for surgery #3 on my wrist, the workers comp company sent me to a doctor about 236 miles away round trip. This doctor was one of the best and most renown orthopedic docs in the country.

    Now I chose not to get an attorney to handle all the pushing and what not because it seemed that if I checked on the WC cmpany every other day or at the least 1 time a week I eventually got waht I needed so there was no reason for an attorney!

    Eventually they appointed a Nurse case manager to my case and this person/woman was awesome! She got things pusshed through the system in a matter of days. Any tests that docs orderd or any tests the PM ordered were pushed through with in a week so no more waiting and pushing had to take place from me anymore.

    The only thing I had to make a huge fuss oer was the elbow becasue they wanted a doc to say the problem there was caused from a ll the long arm casting. With the help of some great docs, my PM doc , may nurse case manager...they all pulled it together and I was accessed and the problem was evaluated and found to be caused fro the casting.

    SO off to surgery #4.

    I finally was all better and just awaiting my final assessment for percetange of loss. I was off all pain medication. My pain doctor never once accused or was suspiscuous of me abuseing my nedications as I always follwed his direction and signed the contract and followed the rules etc.

    Unfortunately after being better and released from all doctors for my arm, and off alll meds, A woman pulled out in front of me and I slammed into her. I was going 50 mph and she all of a sudden popped into my lane. The end result of that was my workers comp case settled and then I traded all the arm and comp injury for the MVA and Neck injury which is where I am today...still with the same PM!

    I thought the neck injuy stuff would just last a few weeks and I refused and pain meds because I dislike them. But after a week an 1/2 of serious pain an PT I said enough!

    I got approval from GP for MRI and to go back to PM as much as I hated it. I tried one doctor in my town and he did a procedure in the wrong area that my NS ordered and wanted to change my meds andI decided To go back to the PM I had forom Comp because he was awesome and he knew me and my body and he trusted me! been with him ever since!!

    ALso you are right about Comp video taping or photographing a patient. It is their right I believe. I dod not even know they did this to me until I read a document that was in the entire medical files I had requested from the Comp Carrier.
    They only did it one time for 3 days.
    It is important to follow all direction given by any doctor wether your on comp or not. That is my personal opinion.

    So I hope my long post has allowed you to see that not all comp situations are so bad. I am not saying that it was easy or unstressful becasue there were times I jsut went mad over the situations and the processes and the attitudes from the staff of the comp carrier, but that is part of the deal I guess.

    Hope this helped..You can ask for a list of the docs that are in the comp carierres group of available docs and pick. At least that ws the cse in my stateand with my carrier!

    Chrissy
  • I do sincerely believe that if I had not been on WC for my knee injury (which came before my back one) I would have been treated MUCH quicker and better. I had a Dr. I am Arrogant, first and he was so busy looking at how much I weigh rather than WHAT was really wrong with my knee.

    I finally went to a new dr. and got the treatment I deserved. All I did was tell my CM that I WAS going to a new dr. whether he liked it or not and I had already set up an appt. Well, he had over a week to send the approval notice, and the lovely human never sent the approval. I had to promise to pay in case WC didn't. Well, I signed the papers b/c I said I wasn't leaving the office till I was seen. I had the office call the guy to tell him to CALL the office IMMEDIATELY. He never did.

    That was my biggest problem. He never returned the phone calls, unless it was about me possibly having more money that I was supposed to (God forbid I get a little extra!). He didn't send my checks on time...I had 7 weeks of no pay after my surgery and that took forever to approve too. That's when I got my attorney and he helped get all of my money except for one week.

    As far as PM dr., well mine was for my back, which wasn't technically a work related injury. I think it was, but I stopped pursuing it as that b/c it was causing too much hassle at work and I didn't want to lose my job over it, so I just paid my own way. The PM dr. was at first pretty good, but the last time I saw him, I was extremely frustrated with him b/c I felt that he was ignoring my concern over the pain I was in and wasn't getting ANY answers. Well, in the end, he was the one who pinpointed the reason for the pain! (fibromyalgia)
  • I work for an amazing doctor that sees a lot of work comp patients. He's been in the game since the early 90's and knows all of their tricks. I feel his patients are EXTREMELY lucky because he catches work comp before they pull most of their nasty tricks. It is a law in Illinois, and maybe elsewhere, that you are allowed to see 3 doctors of your choosing. It is required that you see the "IME", independent medical examiner and this doesn't count as one of your 3 docs. This is the doc provided by worker's comp and their is no way that they are "independent". They work for the comp insurance and are paid to minimize the patient's situation. IMHO, these are not doctors at all because they do not have the best interest of the patient; their only interest is saving the worker's comp insurance money. Getting documentation from your 3 docs will greatly assist your case. If one can hold out and possibly miss pay for a while, some cases do have a happy ending )at least from a care/legal perspective). In some cases, people are not able to hold out for their settlement and end up not getting their medical bills paid, let alone any money for pain and suffering, future care, or lasting disability. This is why it's so important to get a lawyer ASAP. Most lawyers will take the case without getting paid until the settlement. It's sad, we had one guy that had an obvious herniated disc and it took 2 months just to get approved for an MRI. The "IME" was pushing surgery (fusion), promising the patient would be back to work in 3 weeks. He prayed upon the fact that all this poor guy wanted was to go back to work. My boss fights for these patients and tries to arm them with all the knowledge needed for a successful recovery, as well as important info for dealing with work comp (sneaky snakes!).

    I have BC/BS PPO. I've been seeing my doctor for 6 months and he's been giving me a hard time. He was continuing my current med, although it was ineffective and he made me feel guilty for needing it. I don't cry in public, but he's reduced me to tears on numerous occasions. I just saw him last Wednesday and suddenly he changed his tune. He was nice and understanding (to the best of his ability) and completely validated my pain. I don't think he ever believed I was faking, I could see it in his eyes and he never made me feel that was. When I asked directly if I came in with the same condition at 40 if I would be treated differently, he couldn't even look me in the eye!!! I'm not sure what happened last week, maybe he was testing me for 6 months and came to the conclusion I'm not a drug seeker. I received Duragesic patches and was allowed to keep my old pain med for breakthrough pain. I was shocked and awfully grateful!!! I'e told him since day one, I don't expect you to get me dancing in high heels, just help me get through school and work without having to leave because of pain. I still plan on keeping my appointment with a new doc at the end of the month (thank you PPO!), I'm still looking for someone who doesn't make me feel teeny tiny. It's not only prescribing meds that makes a good doctor, IMHO. I'm grateful I have a PPO, without it, I'd probably be at my previous doc who wrongly diagnosed me with Fibro. This doc was "special" 8} .

    As far as which is better, PPO hands down. I don't have to accept a doc just because he's helping manage my pain AFTER 6 MONTHS!!! I want someone who will not only help my pain but also at least listen when I answer a question HE ASKS! Worker's comp is the most difficult thing to have to go through when you are injured. The best intrest of the patient is the farthest thing from their minds. Minimizing damages is all these INS companies care about. People are nearly tricked into having surgery to try to push the case and the patient out as soon as possible. While it is extremely difficult, lawyering up will usually greatly help the situation. Also, documentation by your chosen docs will stand up in court over an IME report any day.

    Whooo, I'm glad I finally got all that out. I hope this helps to answer your question a bit. My heart goes out to all of you stuck on W/C. I understand, I watch and help patients through this everyday.

    Much love and positive energy,
    Lisa
  • you are lucky but it still is a shame that one has to go through all of the b.s. just to get things done with wc. i have option of using my own dr if i get hurt at work. you bet your fries that i would use my dr and not one of those wc hacks that call themselves drs. the main problem are people abusing the system and taking advantage of it just to get an extra buck or to get off work. the few who abuse make it harder for those who are using the system the honest way. my dr told of a patient that wc went after who moved to costa rico. they followed him, took movies and arrested him there and extridited him to us. it must have cost wc a mountain of money to get him. apparently he went to jail for fraud

    jon
    I have 4 fusions from L5-3, the latest last May '12 where they fixed my disc that broke.They went through my side this time. I take 40 mg of oxycontin 4x a day and 4 fenatyl lollipops 300 micro gms 4x a day.
  • there is always someone to screw things up for everyone else in all aspects. Like WC, pain mgt, buying OTC medications or even Sharpies and paint thinner. Incredible. You have to break out the ID to buy certain items nowadays.
  • imho
    hmo's are gloriified wc. i don't like hmo's either. i know some of you have hmo's and like it but with my ppo i can go anywhere and see anyone who carries my insurance which are most dr's. the only problem i have is my pain dr is dropping my ppo due to not getting paid so i have to pay him cash then get reimbursed by my insurance. i don't want to hastle finding another pain dr and getting his trust again. it seems like a lot of wc patients have lawyers also. what's up about that? what kind of insurance makes it a good idea to have a lawyer with you? i belive this goes back to patients scamming the system and the cost gets down to us the patient. the most abused injury with respect to wc are back injuries. hard to prove sometimes because not everything shows up on mri and also wc doesn't want to spend the money for mri's and operations.

    jon
    I have 4 fusions from L5-3, the latest last May '12 where they fixed my disc that broke.They went through my side this time. I take 40 mg of oxycontin 4x a day and 4 fenatyl lollipops 300 micro gms 4x a day.
  • I am trying to get in to a clinic that only deals with workman comp claims since no one else seems to want take on a open claim and I am hoping that they will be working for me and not the State. What is making me furious is that it has been over 3 weeks since I first went to this clinic and signed a release form so that they could get my records from my current "do nothing" doctor and they still have not received them. They said they have requested my records 3 times and still nothing. I feel like my current Doctor is holding me hostage. Isn't there some requirement that they have to release my records if I have requested it?

    I would think my Doctor would be glad to be rid of me but this doesn't seem to be the case. I am going to call again today and see if they have got my records and if not I guess I will have to call and see what the deal is, although I don't think its my responsibilty to do so.

    I just want to get better and its not happening with my current doctor and he has even said he doesn't no what to do with me. Well I do, send me to a specialist or something but he won't even do that. Grrrrr
  • sometimes you need to go to dr and request them in person. this happens a lot from my experiences. i don't trust dr's staffs so i go in and i request and i sign the release and i go and give records in person to new dr. don't depend on your dr's office. if you do you will wait forever for records. it seems that you have to do everything yourself now a days.

    jon
    I have 4 fusions from L5-3, the latest last May '12 where they fixed my disc that broke.They went through my side this time. I take 40 mg of oxycontin 4x a day and 4 fenatyl lollipops 300 micro gms 4x a day.
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