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PAIN MEDS, 4 SPECIALIST AND 1 GP WHO DO I ASK?

AnonymousUserAAnonymousUser Posts: 49,899
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:25 AM in Chronic Pain
:? HI EVERYONE, I POSTED ABOUT MY PRIMARY CARE A FEW WEEKS AGO ABOUT PAIN MEDS. YOU CAN VIEW MY FIRST POST WAS ON PAIN MEDS. I BEEN SUFFERING IN PAIN LATELY AND BEEN TO SO MANY DOCTORS IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS, 3 ORTHOPEDICS AND ONE NUEROSURGEON, I TOLD MY LONG STORY ON ANOTHER POST ABOUT MY PC DOC HE HAS BEEN PRESCRIBING ALL MY MEDS, THEN SOMETHING HAPPEN WHEN HE CAME BACK FROM VACATION, SOMEONE STOLE HIS PRESCRIPTION BOOK AND HE GOT RID OF ALOT OF HIS PATIENTS DUE TO ADDICTION WHATEVER HE SAID. BUT I DID EVERYTHING THIS DOCTOR ASKED I BEEN ON VICODONE FOR 5 YEARS NOW. AND THE SAME DOSE AND I HAVE SO MANY NEW PROBLEMS SINCE THEY WERE PRESCRIBED FOR MY LOWER BACK AND IT SEEMS MY DOCTOR THINKS I SHOULD JUST DEAL WITH THIS PAIN NOW. HE TOLD ME TO BE THANKFUL FOR THEM.. WHY? THEY DONT WORK HE HAD ME ON EVERY STRONG MEDICINE IN THE BOOK THE FIRST YR HE TREATED ME. HE MADE ME FEEL UNCOMFTORABLE BY TELLING ME I WAS ADDICTED TO VICODANE. BUT I DONT EVEN TAKE THE AMONT PRESCRIBED. NO REALLY 5 YRS HE BEEN GIVING THEM TO ME WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GONNA HAPPEN. IM GONNA FIND MY ORIGINAL POST AND PASTE IT HERE BELOW THIS. EVERY DOCTOR I SEEN ASK ME WHAT MEDICINES IM TAKING AND I TELL THEM AND THATS THAT. BUT I WANT TO ASK FOR SOMETHING STRONGER ALL DOCTORS AGREE IM IN ALOT OF PAIN BUT IM AFRAID TO ASK ANYONE AFTER THE WAY MY GP HURT MY FEELINGS A MONTH OR SO AGO.I DONT GO TO PAIN MANAGEMENT BECAUSE I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM GETTING ANY KIND OF PAIN MEDICINE BEFORE FROM MY PC DOC UNTIL WHATEVER HAPPEN TO HIM. MAYBE THE DEA IS INVESTIGATING HIM I DONT KNOW . RUMOR IS HE GIVES VICODAN TO EVERYONE. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR TREATING MY PAIN SINCE ITS ATLEAST 5X TIMES WORST AND DEBILITATING AND RUINING MY EVERYDAY LIFE. ORTHO DOC NUERO DOC OR THE ONE WHO STARTED MEDS IN THE FIRST PLACE 5YRS AGO. READ BELOW FOR THE COPIES OF ORIGINAL POST.
THANKS TO ALL, DAWN
PS. I AM REALLY SUFFERING SEVERELY I BARELY EVEN SLEEP DUE TO PAIN A FEW HRS EACH NITE.
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  • Posts: 38
    Joined: 2008-10-29
    Points: 76
    Onlinedoctors are afraid to treat for pain all the sudden

    Hello everyone im new here,

    Hello everyone im new here, glad to find this site. i have been having chronic pain for 5 years now.started with lower back pain, L 3-4 disc bulge, multi level degerative spondylosis effecting L 4-5, disc buldge L 5-S1 with some sclerosis. I been seeing the same family doctor for 5 yrs. he put me on vicodan hp, pain was really bad due to a fall on ice at that time. moved me up really quick to percocet, oxycotin, then said h would take me off after 1 year so he said the only way off was methadone, oh my i was only taking 1 or 2 pain pills a day so his dose was to high so i didnt want to take them, helped the pain of course i was in another world though and didnt realize it until friends became concerned. so i stopped one day after about a month of taking methadone. then i fainted i didnt know what the heck withdraw was and that these pills would do this, i went to the hospital and they detoxed me there. now my doctor when i came out put me back on vicodan again a week later. by the way he seems to give anyone vicodan even if they dont have proof found this out later. well this is my story when my pain gets worse some weeks especially now i have a 2 yr old and im 40 yrs old. went in with neck and shoulder arm pain same doc. he gave me percocet right before he went on vacation.no problem to get them ever before maybe 5 times a yr when vicodan dont work for more severe pain. he send me for a mri for my neck and shoulder my results were C5-6 HERNIATION INDENTING THE THECAL SAC? C6-7 ABNORMAL LESION LEFT NUERAL FOREMAN possible disc rupture not a tumor,straighning of the cervical spine. highly reccommend contrast mri repeat. getting done soon. now the shoulder. mild arthropathy, subdeltoid bursitis and bicep synovitis, a possible tear of the anterosuperior labrum. rotary cuff tear and other stuff i dont understand anhy of this and i dont think my family doctor does either.i am in horrific pain went the3re crying cant move my shoulder explained i have a 2 yr old and he said im taking vicodan thats enough im climbing to high up the pain medicine mountain. mind you this is the same doctor who gave me methadone before mri's. im n ot a drug addict. well he told me when he was on vacation someone stole his prescription pad and the fda is investigating him and he can give me stronger meds.and hes worried about his liscense. well my sister went there a week later has no pain and never had a test said her legs hurt and he gave her vicodan. and 3 other friends she sent there, taking the pills to get high. i told my dr not to give them to my sister that she is abusing them and shes not in pain but he didnt listen. why do you think my doctor is making me suffer now and telling me to learn how to deal with my pain and go off all pain meds while he is giving oput vicodan like crazy. is percocet that big of a deal now a days? i need to find a new doctor whos understanding but i always seen him for the last 5 years. anyone out there have an idea what may be going on with this doctor. he told me he likes me and he got rid of half his patients for abusing meds but i never ever abused i always used less and went to his pharmacies and had them send over all my records. i dont feel comfortable with him now i feel like hes treating me like his other patients he made into addicts that dont even have pain.

    sincerely dawn


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    chronic pain for 5 years now.started with lower back pain, L 3-4 disc bulge, multi level degerative spondylosis effecting L 4-5, disc buldge L 5-S1 with some sclerosis AND OF COURSE SCIATICA,SHOULDER TENDINOPATHY, BURSITIS, AND TO MANY TO NAME.new pain started end of june 2008 cervical spine,herniation now too c7-t1 added to the c5-6 and c6-c7 said c-8 radiopathy before i went to the nuerosurgeon but he will not say a thing except they missed the c7-t1 herniation until he see's new mri [waiting on new mri with contrast]. doctors seen pcp, nuerosurgeon, 3 orthopedic docs,1 being a shoulder specialist, and one spine specialist.treatments, LUMBAR:spinal decomp,EPIDURAL INJECTIONS,CHIRO,PT.PAIN MEDS. CERVICAL:STILL WAITING NO TREATMENT UNTIL NEW MRI W/CONTRAST.SHOULDER:TRIGGER POINT INJECTION.

  • Hello, so sorry to hear about your problem, is he your Medical
    Dr, or a Ns OP Surgeon? my regular family doctor wont put me on strong pain meds,i got hurt in 2004 on and off vicoden for almost 5 years, on again.. i take them in the morning because when i awake i cannot walk, and it help for most part of the day.@ 5mg.in the afternoon or so i take Soma a muscle relax.I can go 4 or 5 days without the soma but everyday i take the pain med. yes it is very addictive!! a few years back i found myself despertly looking 4 them like a JUNKIE!! then i stopped.after returning to work, months later i had so many problems from my lower back surgery thought i was going crazy i lived in the Emergency-room. they then refered me to a pain specialist, i have had every procedure done to me spinal stimulator, that did not work, about 3 weeks ago i completed a series of test, bottom line i need a reconstructive surger, i have been to 3 doctors who want to give me stronger prescr, nope dont want them, i see to many people strung out on the drugs makes me sick dont want moraph or oxycoden , 5 years i need to get my back fixed and get off all this meds its all addictive,did any doc reccommened surgery for you,you fell on the ice 5 years ago. so the doctors you see what do they reccomend? I dont think yr doctor made you into an addict because he is only listening to you and your complaints,you tell him yr in pain and he gived you the meds, i think yr addictive to this (when the pills dont work you want something stronger!! now you r hateing on his other patients!! he is probl being investigated ,my family friend is always looking for meds she had back surge a couple yrs ago shes addic and they always give her the pill she not in pain she likes to be out of reality, she is on 9 med depression pain med cholosteral high blood pree in and out of the hospital for abuseing her meds, now dilluades she went through 40 pills in 5 days we through the rest down the toliet now shes abuseing her ambian and anti depress she scares me i need to have this 2nd surgery and my goal is to get off this crap!! thank god my LIVER isnt shot i always get a physical i guess cuz i dont drink liquor idontknow!! now i can hardly sleep cuz of the pain been up since midnight,,, but i wont take any pills i walk around the kitchen table feels better, sometime tat helps.i just want to get my back fixed and go on with my life!! i am not sombied out sometime the SOMA makes me feel that way!! but when it hurts it hurts!!i never tried oxycodwn dont evan desire too yoyu should take care of you cuz your baby needs his mother and addiction is a BYTCH!!!i am sure it hurts when you lift him,, you must take care of your problem and get off these pills, your insides will be all screwed up then you will have bigger probles sorry if i sound mean!! but after reading your post it just sounds like you r addicted to these pills and doctords love to give them out..
  • I dont believe most family doctors are comfortable prescribing narcotics. If you are in that bad of pain that you believe you need opiates you will most likely have to see a PM doctor. If you have had surgery you could ask your surgeon to refer you to one at the hospital. My surgeon and PM doctor work at the same hospital which is a top US hospital. You could also find one yourself and ask your GP to refer you to them if one is needed. If you go to different GP's to try and get vicodin or perc's they will most likely think you are doctor shopping for narcotics.
  • HELLO, I KNOW MY FIRST POST SOUNDS LIKE IM A DRUG SEEKER BUT I NEVER BEEN TO ANY DOCTOR EXCEPT MY FAMILY PHYSICIAN AND HE ALWAYS TREATED MY PAIN FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS. HERES THE PROBLEM IM SURE I AM ADDICTED TO PAIN MEDS WHO WOULDNT BE AFTER TAKING THEM EVERYDAY FOR 5 YRS. THE PROBLEM FOR ME WAS MORE FEELING HURT BECAUSE FOR THE FIRST TIME MY DOC GAVE ME A HARD TIME AND I FELT LIKE I WAS BEING TREATED LIKE I WAS A FAKER AND OH JUST LEARN TO DEAL WITH THE PAIN. THE PROBLEM IS I NEVER ASKED FOR ALL THAT STRONG MEDICINE YEARS AGO HE JUST ASKED HOW I FELT AND I TOLD THE TRUTH. SOME DAYS IM GOOD I ONLY NEED ONE VICODAN OR EVEN A HALF THE MOST I EVER TOOK WAS 4 FOR SEVERE PAIN, THE SAME AS TODAY WITH NEW PROBLEMS I ONLY TAKE 2 A DAY AND TRY TO COPE WITH THE PAIN.. BY LYING IN BED ON A HEATING PAD... YEAH FINE 5 YRS AGO DIDNT HAVE A SMALL CHILD OR CERVICAL PROBLEMS THAT JUST CAME RECENTELY. I DID EVERYTHING THIS DOCTOR ASKED ME TO DO, DID EVERY TEST EVERY DOCTOR HE REFERRED ME TOO UNLIKE HIS DRUG SEEKERS. SO I WANT TO KNOW IF THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING WITH MY NEW MRI RESULTS WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? HE GAVE ME A BOTTLE OF 100 PERCOCETS THE WEEK BEFORE HE WENT ON VACATION 10 MG. 6X DAILY. I HAD A REFILL FOR VICODAN,,, MIND YOU I DONT TAKE ALL THE 100 PILLS A MONTH IM PRESCRIBED I CAN REFILL EVERY 25 DAYS IF I LIKE BUT I CANT TAKE THAT MANY DUE TO THEM GIVING ME ANXIETY THEY MAKE ME REALLY SPEEDY. MY CERVICAL, SHOULDER PAIN DOESNT EVEN COMPARE A LITTLE TO MY LOW BACK PAIN. AFTER HAVING THIS NEW PAIN IT HAS BEEN 10 FOLD IN PAIN. SO WHAT HAPPEN WAS DOC ALWAYS GIVES ME 3-5 REFILLS 100 VICODONE. SINCE LIKE I SAID I DONT TAKE THEM IN FULL DOSE[SO ADDICT IS OUT] MY REFILLS EXPIRED DUE TO NOT FILLING THEM ON TIME. 100 PILLS LAST ME TWICE AS LONG AS SUPPOSE TOO! THE PROBLEM WAS HE PUT ME ON PERCOCET AND WHEN MY SHOULDER STARTED TO HEAL I WANTED TO STOP TAKING THEM SO I DIDNT GET TOO ADDICTED AND SWITCH BACK TO VICODAN SO I CALLED AND TOLD THEM MY MEDICINE REFILL WAS EXPIRED. AND THE SECRETARY [DOC'S WIFE] TOLD ME IM ASKING FOR TOO MUCH.... WHAT? IM DUE FOR PERCOCET ANYWAY BUT I DIDNT HAVE AS MUCH PAIN THAT MONTH SO WAS JUST ASKING FOR MY REFILL THAT WAS EXPIRED. I WAS PI**ED I WENT IN THERE WITH ALL MY MEDS AND ALL MY DADS MEDS HE LEFT HERE WHEN HE WENT IN REHAB TO SHOW HIM IF I WAS A DRUG SEEKER THAT YOUR WIFE WAS ACCUSING ME OF HERE I HAVE MY DADS FENTALYNE PATCHES HIS OXYCOTIN SLEEPING PILLS AND OTHER NARCOTICS WITH MANY REFILLS I SHOWED HIM THE BAG AND SAID HERE TAKE THEM, THESE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR 8 MONTHS NOW. IF I WAS AN ADDICT I WOULD OF TOOK EVERYTHING BUT THEY ARE NOT MY MEDS NOR OR THEY PRESCRIBED TO ME. AND I ALSO HANDED HIM A PRESCRIPTION HE GAVE ME 4/2007 FOR VICODAN WITH 3 REFILLS ON THEM THAT I NEVER EVEN FILLED CAUSE AT THAT TIME MY PAIN WAS CONTROLLABLE AND ONLY NEEDED A HALF A PILL IN THE MORNING.SO THEN THE DOC FELT BAD AND SAID I TOOK IT THE WRONG WAY. HE SAID I JUST NEED TO LEARN TO DEAL WITH SOME PAIN ITS N OT GOING AWAY AND PAIN MEDS FOREVER ISNT THE ANSWER. HE SEEN MY MRI RESULTS WITH NEW PROBLEMS IN THE CERVICAL SPINE. BUT HE SENT ME HOME TO WITHDRAW IN FRONT OF MY 2 YR OLD COLD TURKEY OFF OF PERCOCET MY HUSBAND HAD TO CALL HIM AND TELL HIM HOW BAD I WAS. VOMITING SHAKING, BACK PAIN WORSE FROM VOMITING SO MUCH SO HE CALLED IN 3 DAYS WORTH AT NITE AND TOLD ME TO COME IN FOR THE SCRIPT 2 DAYS LATER. THANK GOD I DECIDED TO WEIN MY SELF WITH THOSE 3 DAYS WORTH OF PILLS CAUSE HE NEVER GAVE ME MORE. AND IT WAS EASY TO WEIN I WAS FINE AFTER THAT. BUT THE POINT IS I AM IN SEVERE PAIN MOST DAYS AND THINK I DESERVE A MONTH OR TWO OF A NORMAL LIFE FOR THE HOLIDAYS WITH MY SON AND I KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES OF ADDICTION THAT I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO NOT HAVE PAIN AND LAY IN BED ALL DAY UNTIL THESE DOCTORS DECIDE ON SURGERY OR NOT. RIGHT NOW IM WAITING FOR MY FAM DOC SPINE SPECIALIST APPOINTMENT DEC. 5TH. ALREADY GOT THE TRIGGER INJECTION LAST WEEK FROM MY FAMILY DOCS SHOULDER SPECIALIST. DIDNT WORK AND NUEROLOGIST WAITING ON NEW MRI FOR SURGERY. IM TIRED OF THE WAITNG GAME.. I WANT TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE AND IM JUST SAYING WHEN MY PAIN WAS ONLY A 3-5 FOR THE LOWER BACK DAILY HE GAVE ME EVERY STRONG MED OUT THERE. NO MOST DAYS MY PAIN IS 8-12 NO EXAGERATION AND IM STILL TAKING VICODONE KILLING MY LIVER WITH 660 MG OF TYLENOL IN THEM. NOT A DRUG SEEKER JUST WANT TO HAVE SOME RELIEF UNTIL SURGERY TO SPEND TIME WITH MY FAMILY, TO COOK THANKSGIVING DINNER, TO PUT UP OUR XMAS TREE ETC. ALL DOCTORS WILL NOT EVEN LET ME TAKE PHYSICAL THERAPY AT THIS TIME DUE TO THE NERVE COMPRESSIONS ON MY CERVICAL SPINE. ITS NOT MY FAULT OXXFORD IS TAKING SO LONG TO APPROVE A SECOND MRI WITH CONTRAST.

    DAWN
  • i too have noticed that docs are all of a sudden very leary to pprescribe pain meds. it appears also that in the meantime that your pc doc is being investigated, that you should transfer control of your meds to most likely pm doc or surgeon. offer to sign contracts or do whatever they ask. explain to them that you have family to care for and need some relief. showing the records of expired scripts sshould help as well.

    dawn

    ps good luck in your quest and w/surgery
  • THANK GOD THE NUEROSURGEON SAID TO GET A WET READING AND HE WILL CALL ME TO SEE IF I NEED TO SEE HIM RIGHT AWAY TOMORROW MRI AT 2 PM. NUERO LEAVES AT 5PM BUT SAID IF RESULTS LOOK WORSE HE WILL WAIT FOR ME TO COME IN. MRI PLACE IS 30 MINUTES AWAY, NUERO CALLED TODAY AND SAID TO FIND SOMEONE TO DO IT STAT! DUE TO MY SEVERE NUMBNESS AND LOSS OF MOBILITY IN MY HANDS IM STARTING TO DROP THINGS AND MY FACE AND ARM BEEN NON STOP NUMB ALL DAY. USUALLY IT COMES AND GOES THRU OUT THE DAY. PAIN DOWN MY ARM GETTING WORSE THIS WEEK TOO, NUERO THINKS MY CONDITION HAS WORSENED SINCE THE MRI IN AUGUST 08. PC DOC SHOULD OF SENT ME TO A NUEROSURGEON FROM THE FIRST ABNORMAL MRI BUT DIDNT SEE IT NECCESSARY. HUH MMMMMM. WELL THANK GOD I TOOK MATTERS IN MY OWN HANDS AND SCHEDULED THE ORTHO WHO SCHEDULED THE NUERO AFTER READING MY MRI'S. THEY WHERE REALLY MAD MY PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR DIDNT DO ANYTHING. I TOLD THEM HE SAID NO TO GO TO A NUEROSURGEON BOTH SPECIALIST SAID \, DID THIS DOCTOR LOOK AT YOUR MRI??? I SAID NO JUST READ THE REPORT.. ORTHOPEDIC SAID WELL THEN THAT EXPLAINS WHY IM THE SPECIALIST AND I GAVE YOU THE REFERAL FOR A NUEROSURGEON.. I REPEAT HE SAID DO NOT LISTEN TO YOUR PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR,,,, LISTEN TO ME IM THE SPECIALIST. AND HE GOT ME IN TO SEE THE NUEROSURGEON IN 2 DAYS!

    DAWN
  • Dawn1068,
    Most GP,s are not pain specialists and my doctor has always been supportive and admitted when he does not have the specific expertise, is important that both are working to the same goal from a collective strategy and in unison so as not to confuse the patient. If you are seeing and pain specialist on a regular basis they have more experience of dealing with the totality of your condition, the problem may be that in between visits our local doctor may be in charge of our care also and it is not unusual for some confusion to develop within this collective relationship.

    As patients we become reliant on the communication we are given and look for all opportunity for some improvement, we are not being pedantic, just seeking clarity after all this waiting and associated pain, I once went to see a specialist on a separate issue and he actually recorded the session, so we were not confused in our emotional state to the plan that was ahead and it was a very thoughtful idea.

    We go to our doctor with the expectation of subsequent assistance and we need to be more informed of where each responsibility starts and begins for everyone’s benefit.

    Good luck you are on your way.

    John
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