Welcome, Friend!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

Veritas-Health LLC has recently released patient forums to our Arthritis-Health web site.

Please visit http://www.arthritis-health.com/forum

There are several patient story videos on Spine-Health that talk about Arthritis. Search on Patient stories
Protect anonymity
We strongly suggest that members do not include their email addresses. Once that is published , your email address is available to anyone on the internet , including hackers.

Notice
All discussions and comments that contain an external URL will be automatically moved to the spam queue. No external URL pointing to a medical web site is permitted. Forum rules also indicate that you need prior moderator approval. If you are going to post an external URL, contact one of the moderators to get their approval.
Attention New Members
Your initial discussion or comment automatically is sent to a moderator's approval queue before it can be published.
There are no medical professionals on this forum side of the site. Therefore, no one is capable or permitted to provide any type of medical advice.
This includes any analysis, interpretation, or advice based on any diagnostic test

Has anyone ever had their back injured by an osteopath?

AnonymousUserAAnonymousUser Posts: 49,900
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:25 AM in Lower Back Pain
Hi all

Has anyone gone to an osteopath for a mildish lower back pain and then come out in agony?? This has happened to me, on 17th Oct and I have been in agony and heavy painkillers for 5 weeks. What to do?

Kind regards


Diana
advertisement

Comments

  • I was a massage therapist for 20+ years and had many osteopathic adjustments. I am sure since this is a month after your post you have sought help and I hope found it.
    I have had some "deep release" work that left me feeling like I had been hit by a truck - but I had been warned and it was VERY gentle manipulation. The results were very positive after the ache cleared up.
    After a fall on cement in May, I have been going for chiropractic work and my back got worse. I finally had x-rays done through MD and had a stress fracture and osteoporosis. I am 59, this was good to know NOW! If your pain lasts, I hope you feel free to contact the osteopath, I believe the person would want to know and perhaps could help you or advise where to go.
    This can be an opportunity to discover a problem that would have gotten worse.
    I will look for your response, I'm sure many people want to know how this turns out for you. best wishes
  • Can you see your GP? Maybe he could distinguish the pain as muscular or something else and maybe even order an MRI depending on his findings. I hope you're feeling better. Charry
    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
  • Thanks for your replies. I had been told by the hospital that I had a herniated disc and I had mild sciatic pain in my right leg. I told this all to the osteopath when I first met him and he told me there was nothing wrong with my discs and bent both my legs backwards until my toes touched my bottom. After this first session he did say I would feel very sore for a bit. He was right!!!!

    But the trouble is the pain did not ease off, it is still here, 5 weeks after that first visit. It is excruciatingly painful. I went back to this man 2 more times, which I now feel very stupid about. He told me I was going through a very tough time but it should all ease in about a week or two, I believed him. (How stupid of me) he left a finger nail cut mark in my lower back and then he leaned against my back after he had put acupuncture needles in my back and he crushed the needles into my back. This is not the practice of a good osteopath I think?! I never went back to him again, I was in agony and told my GP, my back had gone into spasm. This happened after my first visit to him and my GP gave me painkillers. After my last visit to him I went to another, (REPUTABLE) osteopath who was very gentle with me and told me I had had a very bad experience and he said he believed I had a prolapsed disc and needed an MRI scan urgently.

    Did this oaf of an osteopath prolapse my disc from a herniated disc? Did he make my back much worse? I think so. I know so, the pain is telling me that he turned my mild back pain into an acute, crisis situation. When it was herniated I could have had treatment that would have helped it heal, what he did was now completely rupture that disc which is a far worse situation and may now need surgery to correct and could now cause me years of back pain and suffering.

    Why did he just disregard what the hospital had told me? How could he not have known that my back situation was more serious than just a severe strain in my lower back. After seeing what he had done to me in the first visit, when my back went into spasm, why did he proceed to treat me as though my discs were ok? I am angry, so angry with him. I want to make a formal complaint about this man or try to sue him for what he has done to my back. I have had an MRI scan and I am awaiting the results.

    I think he burst (prolapsed) my disc on that first visit when he bent my legs backwards and stuck needles in my bottom so hard he left bruises on me and drew blood. That is why my back went into spasm a couple of days later.

    Sorry for the rant but I am so furious and upset that there are stupid, arrogant osteopaths out there that think they are God, who are damaging people's backs, ruining people's lives. My life has come to a complete stand still. I cannot work, drive, walk, sit, stand, lie on my back, stomach or right side without excruciating pain. I need to be looked after as I cannot do everyday normal things for myself now and I have been in this state for 5 weeks now and am on morphine to control the pain.

    Thanks for listening/reading and I really hope to hear back from you as I am very very down about this and really need some good advice and help.

    Kind regards

    Diana

  • yogini1999yyogini1999 Posts: 3
    edited 11/14/2013 - 5:39 AM
    I went to an osteopath for occasional mild knee pain and left with much more severe pain in almost every part of my body!!! The past year and a half since my treatment I have experienced pain in my neck, pelvis, and hips, and on a daily basis roving burning pain that comes and goes in every millimeter of my body, from my wrists to my big toe. It has been an absolute nightmare and I am as outraged as you are that there are radically incompetent osteopaths out there who have no qualms about risking the lives of the human beings they treat. According to more competent medical practitioners the treatment I was subjected to was completely unnecessary and inappropriate for my body type. Over the course of treatment the osteopath reassured me that the bizarre new pains all over my back, shoulders, wrists, arms and legs that I experienced after her adjustments were a "completely normal" part of the osteopathic process, but after what was to be my last adjustment my body completely collapsed and an ever multiplying cascade of new pains arose in parts of my body that had been hereto pain free. Since the osteopathic treatment I have had to stop doing yoga or any other kind of physical activity. I can no longer lead the active life I loved so much and I am not sure that I ever will. I have woken up in pain every single day for the past 18 months. I have been unable to get one clear diagnosis of my condition and thus have no idea of how to proceed with my rehabilitation. I am still in shock and disbelief over what happened to me and how radically my life has been altered.
    sonia perel
  • But due to chiropractic care. I went for a scapular spasm but she adjusted pelvis and spine also. Aftet second visit i have developed chronic sacral / tailbone pain, worse on left at times. My quality of life has been altered. I will give more info if their is an interest.
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,715
    edited 01/03/2014 - 7:38 PM
    doctors I was treated by, there was no chance for any negative impacts.
    The DO I was seeing for several months, only used a slight touch of his hand over my body and never did any actually physical touching (except for gliding his fingers and hands over specific parts of my body - head, neck , low back, butt)

    Several excerpts from medical journals:

    Is a system of therapy known as osteopathic manipulative medicine. Osteopathic medicine emphasizes helping each person achieve a high level of wellness by focusing on health promotion and disease prevention.

    Osteopathy is a philosophy and form of alternative healthcare that emphasizes the interrelationship between structure and function of the body, as well as the body's ability to heal itself.

    Osteopathy is a form of drug-free non-invasive manual medicine that focuses on total body health by treating and strengthening the musculoskeletal framework, which includes the joints, muscles and spine. Its aim is to positively affect the body's nervous, circulatory and lymphatic systems.

    Osteopaths use a broad range of gentle hands-on techniques including soft tissue stretching, deep tactile pressure, and mobilisation or manipulation of joints.

    That being said, in the end, I did not realize any benefits from receiving gentle treatments from a Osteopathic doctor.. In fact, if anything, I was turned off by the constant verbal communication from the doctor during treatments that

    • "Now I should be feeling more relaxed",
      "Now I should start to feel the pain diminishing" , etc
    I felt like it was almost a sort of hypnotism. I apologize to offend Osteopathic Doctors. I am just stating my experiences during a 6 month time frame.
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • I've had major back problems for 25 years, ever since the day I went to an Osteopath. Ironically I went due to a pinched nerve in my shoulder. He manipulated me and I couldn't get out of bed the next day. Like an idiot I went back to him. I knew nothing about back problems then and never had an MRI , but I now realize that he herniated my L5S1 disk. Fast forward 15 years and I had an Artificial disk put in there. Then 3 months ago I had the 3 disks above fused. So yes, I would say I was injured by him. I would never recommend going to an Osteopath or Chiropractor who forcefully manipulates your spine. I think you need to go to a specialist and get an MRI. Good luck!
    Artificial disc at L5S1 for 10 years. Had 3 Level lumbar fusion and Laminectomy on Sept 27, 2013. It was an OLIF (Oblique Lumbar Interbody Fusion) with cages, BMP, rods & screws. Norco, Plaquenil
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,715
    can use aggressive manipulation. A true osteopathic doctor never will. That is part of what osteopathic medicine is all about.
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • In the beginning when I saw my DO all he did was drays an MRI gave me meds, told me not to go back to chiro,an sent me back to PC who then referred me to pain mgmt....

    Might be a good thing he wasn't manipulating my back or neck. I was such a mess all the time before everything kinda got worked out.
  • I beg to differ. As I posted above, I definitely went to an Osteopath, not a Chiropractor. He was an MD who could write prescriptions, etc. Albeit, a really bad one! Just ask questions and be sure he is gentle. I'm sure they can to a world of good, if done correctly.
    Artificial disc at L5S1 for 10 years. Had 3 Level lumbar fusion and Laminectomy on Sept 27, 2013. It was an OLIF (Oblique Lumbar Interbody Fusion) with cages, BMP, rods & screws. Norco, Plaquenil
  • All I will comment on, on this thread, is a personal experience. So far I have been told to strap myself up/not to strap myself up; to use cold/hot treatment/to use only hot treatment; to push myself just a little harder than I am comfortable with/not pushing to my full extent. All of these people are professionally qualified and experienced in their field. My view now is that there a a lot of fields that can be consulted to treat pain and each specialist will provide a diagnosis and recommendation based on that qualification and experience. My approach now (after nearly 9 months of pain/agony) is: if it hurts or I feel no change I won't do it, if it doesn't hurt or I feel some help I'll happily give it a go.
  • I had a very strong and healthy back until I went to an osteopath for preventative care. He violently manipulated my back and left me with a herniated disc. Its been 4 years now and my life has basically stopped. He's taken away everything I love. I have a hard time even walking my dogs. Theres not much I can do about it, except warn others, and have regrets! I was lied to and told it was very gentle, that you could not be hurt. Please be cautious when letting someone manipulate your spine.
advertisement
This discussion has been closed.
Sign In or Register to comment.