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Furious (and FRANTIC) that I have been left to come off lortab with 8 pills

AnonymousUserAAnonymousUser Posts: 49,671
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:29 AM in Back Surgery and Neck Surgery
(I have also posted this under Medications before I'm frantic to get responses. Please forgive the double posting.)

I am stuck between a rock and a hard place, please tell me what you would do.

I had a back fusion on Dec 30th. Neurosurgeon prescribed 30 mg long acting morphine and 120 10 mg lortabs for me to take 4 a day as needed. I had been taking them two at a time twice a day following with two aleve several times during the day.

The last appt with the NS was two months ago. I have one scheduled for tomorrow, Monday (23rd). When I went two months ago, he gave me one month of meds. When I called last month, Feb 24th, they called in the 120 lortab and told me I'd have to come to the office to pick up the morphine script. At that time I told her I didn't want to make the 30 minute tip and to let me see how I did.

Within days of running out of the 30mg LA morphine, I was in instense pain. Started taking the 15mg short acting morphine I had been given after surgery (still had leftover), instead of the loratab. The following week, I called the NS office and told them I needed the get the 30mg script and would come get it.

Every fine, they told me on that phone call they wanted to me start going to a pain management clinic. I said fine, I have one I was going to before my surgery.

To my surprise, I found out the one I had in my town had closed but the doctor had a couple other clinics. Had to wait 2 weeks to get referral from insurance through my PCP and then had to wait another week and a half for an appt.

I go to this appt last week with about a weeks or so left of loratabs. Saw new lady doc who said I'd never be on those meds (30 mg LA morphine and especially the 120 10mg loratabs at their clinic. Said she couldn't prescribe anything, had no records from my NS office, who said they had sent EVERYTHING over the day before and that had been confirmed by someone at the pain clinic (records received). Doc said she'd have to wait two week to get my urine and blood work back and she wanted me to start weekly exercise/therapy there once a week.

She also said the pain contract said I could not get meds from somewhere else but that she would allow the NS to give me one more script of lortabs because I told her I had TEN left and I could NOT PHYSICALLY WITHDRAW from the lortab in that short of time, given the months I had been taking them.

I called the NS's office to see if she could give me more lortab in the interium. His nurse said "he will give you no more, we told you we wanted you to go to a pain clinic". I explained that I HAD...that day, but that doc wouldn't prescribe anything for two weeks.

I feel this is totally unprofessional, unconscionable and unethical in regard to someone who has been on pain meds for almost a year.

Maybe I am over-reacting in the frantic-ness that those of us who are physically addicted feel when we know our drugs will be witheld. I have NO PROBLEM trying to come off the lortab, just don't think it's right to be left with two docs who won't prescribe more but gave me 10 left to come off them.

I will be calm going into his office and maybe my anxiety is unnecessary. He MAY give me a script to last me until I get fully into the pain clinic.


Do I have recourse, am I justified in my anger? I'm scared, I will be so angry tomorrow at my NS's office I will start to cry because that's what I do when I'm trying to defend myself, also I pain to take 3 0.5 mg of xanax before going to hope to be calm enough to talk rationally.



  • Could you go to another pain doctor and explain? I haven't seen my pm doctor since my surgery and I don't know if my pain doctor needs any records from my surgeon to prescribe me meds. Luckily my pm doctor and surgeon have a working relationship.

    I don't know why it would take them two weeks to get your blood and urine work back. It usually takes them a day or so. I had to get get blood/urine test before my surgery. It was done on a Monday and had the surgery on Wednesday. I think it's your insurance that is giving you the run around. I maybe wrong. I have PPO, so I don't need a referral for specialist. Call your insurance company to find out if they are the ones holding you back.
  • So sorry for all you are going through. If your NS will not give you any meds, ask for copies of all the records that the pain doc said they did not get so you can take them in to your next appointment or drop they off yourself. Make sure you make a copy before leaving them at the pain docs office, in case they get "lost" again.
    It is very upsetting when paperwork is supposed to be sent and it gets "lost" in the process.
    I hope you are able to get what you need to get through the time between doctors and that they are able to keep your pain undercontrol and comfortable.
    Take care,
  • I don't think its the insurance as a matter of fact, I think since I was already going to their other office it would have not needed a referral, but they did that to be safe.

    You are right, I am leaving the NS office, tomorrow with all my records...ALL. Even if we leave on good terms.

    I guess if he doesn't prescribe, I will go to the emergency room if it gets too bad. Kinda sad, when a freaking doc won't give you enough pain meds to withdraw and you waste an emergency room visit. wish I could charge them.

    I'm wondering about calling the pain meds clinic and askig if I can see the male doc I saw here in my town. I do like the fact that this new female doc has been in a serious car injury (not like it because she had to be hurt) but because maybe she has more understanding. Both shoulders broke, back and a hip. BUT you can't go from takin gwhat I've been taking and be free and the exercise/therapy she wants me to come too, to work on the first visit.

    I AM going to call my PCP tomorrow morning at 8 AM to see if he has any walkin appts for me to see him tomorrow too.

    ANOTHER big factor is I need my NS to not release me to work. If he releases me, I am laid off. MY PCP said he would side with me on this, but the timing is crucial because I need a note dated TUESDAY to the present as the NS has already written me a note throught Monday.

    Months back the NS said he liked to see people go back to work because it was best for them. YEAH right, we ALL would like to feel like going back to work, eh?

    I can't stand for more than 15 minutes without pain, I can't sit in my computer chair for more than an hour without pain...I need to stress this tomorrow so he will continue to NOT release me to work.

    Any special KEY words to reach him on this?

    And thank you, thank you for your fast reply...makes me tear up that people are so support and react quickly and help me through this. Bless you.
  • But where does that leave me...if my new PM doc won't see me until the drug tests come back, unless I can get an appt with the doc at that office I had seen before, and if the NS won't give me a script tomorrow?

    I have been on lortab daily since mid-summer 2008. I find out Thursday(or tomorrow) that they will not give me another script and I have about 6 10 mg left now?

    Someone is responsible for the withdrawals I will go through shortly and I don't think it's me.
  • Sounds like you're really stuck. First of all, go ahead and cry in the office, but have someone else go with you to speak rationally(preferably male.) Yeah, that's sexist but that's the way it is. Second, ask your doc if you might also throw some Benadryl in the mix to help with withdrawals. I know you need the meds, but it's just a suggestion if you can't get any.

    I am sorry for your situation.
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,865
    Duplicate thread exist in Pain Medications.
    All future posts should be directed there.
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
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