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back pain/sleeping problems

AnonymousUserAAnonymousUser Posts: 49,671
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:34 AM in New Member Introductions
Hi there
I just happened to stumble across this site while not enjoyin another night of being wide awake at all hours of the morning, it is not due to my back pain which to be honest having suffered it fot the past six years, im a 24 year old female, is saying something. I still to this day have no explanation for what caused my back pain, it just happened one day i was getting up from the couch and felt something i had not felt before it is hard to describe it now as it was 6 years ago but i kept having this niggle and it gradually became worse and excrutiating over time. I have been to the doctor and to three different people one a physical therapist, a neuromuscular therapist, and also another guy who works selling MBT runners. None of this has either cured me or given me a reason for it. The only incident i can think would have been a few months before i felt this first twinge i had been at horse college and had a fall when my horse bolted and i landed on my back,but im not sure if that is why because it was a few months before.

I had then started waitressing for the first time and thought maybe that didn't help either.

Can anyone give me any idea?

At the moment i am unemployed and as nothing physical is required of me my back seems to be okay, just writing that makes me think i could be lazy and it is all in my head but really i dont think i could dream up the pain i have endured with it over the years.

I want to return to try and work with horses but it has been at least three years since i have worked with them because the work was too demanding and my back was not able for it.

Now though on top of this i have never been great at sleeping, and i find myself spending the majority of my life so far wide awake all night and sleeping half the day when i fall asleep. I have always had trouble waking early and have slept in for so many important things it's ridiculous.

Can anyone help me please or any advice you could give would be appreciated.

Thank you xxx


  • I would ask your Dr. for an MRI especially having symptoms after the fall from the horse. I had to ask my Dr for an MRI also because of the foot pain and numbness as well as backpain. Also talk to your Dr about getting into a sleep study for problems sleeping. Also consider a proper bed or topper that may help. Take care. Charry
    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
  • sorry you landed on butt. everything charry stated is right on target. if mri isnt scheduled real quick get regular x ray. lots of falls show stress fractures and they can be seen quick with x ray...hope its not serious
  • Hey Charry

    Thanks very much for your advice,I'm going to take you up on it and will keep you posted as to what happens.

    Thanks again:) xxxx
  • Hi there Pete

    Thanks for your reply, i did have an xray a few years back which showed up nothing and also i had an ultrasound and again nothing, i think im just being punished for no reason
    it has ruined my career i wanted to spend my life with horses and its jus not possible i think now or at least until i actually get a diagnosis and maybe try and fix the pproblem but does it ever go away? the pain?
  • I want to welcome you to Spine Health..
    Stick around Spine Health.
    This site can help and change your life.

    I would have to give you the same advice that Charry gave you and really stress to your doctor that you need a MRI.
    Not getting a good night sleep makes are pain worse.
    My thought are with you.
    hugs to all. Patsy

  • a few questions...does any position make pain go away?
    can you describe where the pain is and how it feels...sharp, aching, shooting, pins and needles?
  • this is one of my favorite topics ..as i have had 2 operations and sleep is a no nio with me because i am in so much pain ..my advice is to get a firm diagnosis from a reputable spine doctor .but meantime have you tried a memory foam overlay on your bed> and aTENS for your back>
    ? let me know if you want any advice and i hope that things improve
  • Hi there Patsy

    Thanks very much for your reply everyone is being so nice to me on this site, I'm going to see if my doctor will give me MRI, i really want to be rid of this pain it is dominating my life im glad that im not alone though and its sad to see so many people worse off than me, i remember my mam having an operation on her back for sciatica, i dont know if it is hereditary but my doc says i dont have that.

    I will keep posting and let know the outcome of MRI

    and thanks again for your advice:) xxx
  • Hi Pete,
    To answer your questions, when i have the pain no position helps it is just incredibly painful no matter what i do when i get it, it just gets worse i end up taking Difene to relieve it,

    The pain is in my lower back and moves down my bum and into my leg and if it is really bad it moves to my stomach also.

    It is like an aching but then if i move a certain way i get a sharp pain and i think like something hits a nerve and that is unbearable.

    Thanks for this i feel so much better having people to talk to who understand. xxx
  • You need to get an MRI by any means necessary ;) Seriously, an x-ray and ultrasound can't pick up problems like herniated discs for example. You have not been fully evaluated so there is a chance that something complex is going on undetected. Try to get in with a spine specialist who can diagnose and treat your back problems. Take care
  • sorry mece but meydey is right...that type of pain does need attention from the most knowledgeable kind of back dr, a spinal surgeon. if you dont have insurance now take trip to emergency room. hospitals will give you gigantic discounts if youre not working. hope that you will be ok soon with proper treatment. the main thing is to catch it before any perminent damage is done so someday youll ride again...
  • Thanks for your comment i just assumed that they did everything that could be done to find a cause for this i never thought to try and go further with it so im taking on board everything everyone is saying and hopefully i can get this sorted thanks very much. xx
  • Thanks Pete i appreciate it and yes hopefully i will get to ride again. I'll check it out i have a medical card so that should cover at least some of the cost.

  • Hi Straker thanks for your commet, i havent actually tried memory foam mattress but thanks maybe someday when i have some spare cash i can get one, everything people are saying is a great help, sorry to hear you dont sleep i know what thats like and is very frustrating, hope things improve for you too. xxx
  • Hi Straker thanks for your commet, i havent actually tried memory foam mattress but thanks maybe someday when i have some spare cash i can get one, everything people are saying is a great help, sorry to hear you dont sleep i know what thats like and is very frustrating, hope things improve for you too. xxx
  • Everyone has given you good advice regarding your back issue.

    As far as the sleep problem, please check out the forum topic on sleep. There is always someone on to post to at any time of the night.

    I'm so tired when I get in bed and then toss and turn waiting to fall asleep. I've tried Simply Sleep and also have ambien (prescribed) but still just get one hour increments. At such a young age, I hate to see you have to resort to sleep aids -- maybe something homeopathic would work. Before your accident, if you had a really busy day and expended a lot of energy, did you sleep better?

    This will probably sound corny to someone so young but a hot bath or shower, comfy pj's, scented candle or oils, maybe spritz your linens with lavender and make your bed a little oasis. Try to turn off TV or any distractions when you get sleepy. Oh, and don't forget the effect caffeine has on you -- no mountain dews, lattes, etc in the evening. Maybe play some relaxing music OR read the most boring book ever!

    Nice to meet you Mece and may you heal and be pain free soon so you can get on with your life. Don't give up on your dreams yet.

  • Welcome to Spine Health. I'm so sorry to hear of your pain. The pain shooting down you bum and legs is most likely sciatic. Back problems can difinitely be genetic. I truly beleive that is why I'm in the shape I am in. I'm doomed cuz both parents have major low back problems (dad is in wheelchair now and is only 54) and both sets of grandparents (maternal and paternal) also have low back problems. Are you able to lay flat on the floor on your stomach without any pillows underneath you or does that cause you pain as well? I've also heard that wattressing can be hard on the back. My biological mom has been a waitress all her life and suffers from severe low back pain. I think she has problems with her neck too but can't remember.

    The part where you described your sleep pattern or lack of was like reading something I wrote. I have the same problem. It is 12:46am right now and I'm wide awake. I will usually fall asleep around 2-4am and sleep until 9-10am. I too have missed so many important appts or events because I slept in. I even slept through my son's field trip last year that I was supposed to help out with and I was going to meet him there and bring his lunch. I didn't wake up until around noon and by that time they already had lunch. Luckily the teacher brought extra in case this happened with one of her students. She knows of my condition so was understanding but still doesn't make me feel any better for doing it. I take tylenol PM to help me get to sleep as well as help with the pain. I also have 2 anxiety meds I take around 7-9pm and they are suppose to help me with sleep. They don't kick in until midnight or after even when I take them so early.

    I agree with the others. It's very important to insist your doc send you for MRI ASAP. If you have any kind of nerve impingement and this goes untreated it could end up being permanent. Please keep us posted and let us know what the doc says and how you make out with MRI. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or just want to chat.
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