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Dr NOOO!!!

AnonymousUserAAnonymousUser Posts: 49,671
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:37 AM in Pain Medications
Just got back from my lovely doctors appointment & here I sit in severe sciatic nerve pain, balling my eyes out because Dr. NOOO won't give me ANYthing now for the pain!!! All I said was I had to take 2 pills last night for the pain instead his 1 only rule. My bad.

His exact words were NO!!!...no more narcotics period
because you will become addicted. I asked about something to help or block this horrid nerve pain then...again NO!!! He then said, I had a worse back case then yours & I only took regular tylenol, so get USED to the PAIN!!! WHAAT??? "I have to suffer with NO sleep & NO meds now???
YES, he said!!!

Can you refer me to a pain management doctor?...again NO!!

I couldn't believe my ears. I told him that maybe we have different pain tolerances, I'd rather give birth than suffer
thro this pain. I asked if he had sciatic nerve pain, he nodded his head, yes. LIAR!!! I then said...I'm NOT an addict or drug freak & guess I would have to find someone who gives a bleep about they're patients!!!

I was so shocked by his lack of compassion & cried all the way home...

Here's all he gave me per MONTH...
When injured...
30 Percocet...5mg/325mg...take 1/2...4x daily

approx. after 4 months after injury...
40 Percocet...5mg/325mg....take 1...4 x daily

few weeks ago...
NEW injury on top of old...
50 Percocet...5mg/325mg....take 1...4 x daily

I dunno how I'm going to cope, even when I took the two pills last night I was still in utter agony. Now I have to settle for regular tylenol, that's like taking a sugar cube.

Besides looking for a new doctor, what can I do to get through the pain while in search of someone who actually gives a S**T???


  • That is so sad what you are going through. I wish there was something I could do for you other than that.

    I will say this: begin looking for a PM doctor. I probably missed the thread someplace that stated whether this Dr NOOOOoo was a GP, Ortho, PM etc...

    But, definitely, look for a new doctor, go see that doctor and see whether you like him/her and then tell this new doc (if you 2 hit it off well) that you have records at Dr NOOoos office and sign the paper work to request them. This new doc will want to know why the switch. Just be honest and tell him that your pain is currently severely undertreated by said doc and you have lost faith and or respect in him as a doctor.

    Good luck, hon. Hope everything works out for ya!
  • I can't imagine having a Dr. who has no compassion and has the gaul to compare his back issues with yours.

    Start looking for a new Dr., he sounds absolutely horrible. Hope you find hellp soon.
  • Yeah, it sounds like you need to see another doctor. What exactly is going on with your back and how long has it been? Have you had an MRI? Your best bet is to get in with a spine clinic where you can consult with a Psyiatrist who can handle pain mgt and epidural injections for you. If necessary they can refer you to an Orthopedic surgeon or Neurosurgeon. You can also go to a pain clinic where they can diagnose the problem, treat your pain with medications, and perform ESI's and other spinal injections. Most clinics won't see you without a referral and you will need records and current MRI's and x-rays.

    If the pain gets really bad you should always seek medical attention or go to the ER and make sure you take your records with you. Take care
  • That`s just terrible about your Doctor not helping you. While my Dr. was on vacation I went to the ER and got some pain meds to help bide the time. Did your Dr. have you on celebrex or any other meds to help? Heat is good too for your pain. Take care. Charry
    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
  • I'm sorry that you weren't given more pain medication, but you have to understand that you also broke one of pain managements primary rules and that is to take only what is prescribed for you. That means taking only the amount of medication that you are supposed to take, and only when you are supposed to take it. Most PM practices would have done exactly the same as your Dr. No did.
    I would suggest that you get your copies of your xrays, MRI's , reports and CT scans together and go see a neuro or orthopedic spine surgeon and see what can be done. They can refer you to Pain Management if needed. Then a PM doctor can decide if pain meds are warranted or if some other modality might be of more help in managing the pain.
    Good luck to you,
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,863
    Since you are in pain and miserable, I would start to find another doctor that can help you manage your pain. Remember, no doctor is going nor should provide medication to eliminate your pain.... Its important to have medications to control and manage it.
    But, I would still want to know from your existing doctor WHY he is limiting your pain medications. Some doctors are just not narcotic oriented, and we have other doctors for some reason hold back.
    It is very important to be able to control your pain so that it does not go out of control
    Dont give up or give in
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • Not sure about where you live but we have an orthopedic urgent care in my town. That is where I went when I flared in July. If you have one where you are go there, or go to an emergency room if you are in total agony. If you are unhappy with your doctor find a new doctor to get a second opinion. You really have to be your own advocate here. You've got to be proactive in your health care. On the other side you do need to follow your doctors orders. If you can't handle the pain call his office at 2am if need be. Most doctors have someone answering their calls 24hrs a day. The answering service can advise what you should do about your pain then. I am no longer scared of doctors, although nurses do intimidate me.
  • Dr. No is just my crappy GP, he's NOT a pain management doctor. I asked to go to one but like usual I got another...NOOOO!!!

    Seriously, I can't believe one extra pill is THAT big a deal, like nobody has ever taken an extra ONE when your dying in agony??? huh...bullet or pill???
  • I just don't understand how a doctor prescribes 50 pills, divide that by 4 per day = 12.5 days AND he says "see you in a month" What about the other 17.5 days in that month???

    I was trying to get him to understand that it just doesn't add up & there are those REAL bad days too.

    I know he can't take my pain totally away but he's suppose to be there to HELP me isn't he??? AND he NEVER listens, I told him that when I was at the hospital I had high blood pressure 170/100...he shrugged his shoulders & said..."aaah" Like it was no biggie. He did the same thing when I told him about all my sciatic nerve pain too...like awk well. He also lied on my WSIB claim & said he saw me maybe every 3 months...AND said MY prognosis was a...BACK ACHE!!! WTF??? Guess he read his own report there.

    I could right a book on the disgusting things this KWACK has done or said but I'm SOOOOOOO DONE. Sorry if I seem pissed, I am & frustrated too!!!

    Luckily, I see an Ortho next month...fingers crossed!!! LOL

    Thanx for listening to me ramble & I truely appreciate the support.
  • zammer - I am SO sorry you are suffering. I 100% agree with you, about 1 extra pill should not be THIS big of a deal. However - (and I may very well get in trouble for posting this), I am sure that others have taken 1 extra pill from time to time. The difference is you owned up to it and it bit you in the but... ~X(

    I am not sure, but I would check as I can't believe that your Dr has the LEGAL right to not give you a requested referral. Ask around - check with other Drs offices. Just call and ask if this is legal.

    Do you need a referral as of insurance?

    Maybe a trip to the ER would help. Hopefully they will give you some for pain & maybe recommend a good PM Dr.

    Please keep us updated and know my prayers & thoughts are with you :)))
    L1 - S2 "gone" useless in 1 way or another. DDD. RA. Bone Spurs. Tons of nerve damage/issues. Stenosis. Both knees replaced. 50 yrs old. I had a great fall (hence my user name) at age 41 and it has been a domino effect every since.
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,863
    on a claim, especially about the number of times he saw you , you have a major, major issue with him.
    I am not into today's society which seem sue happy, but when a doctor has has taken an oath flat out lies in a written document oh boy would a lawyer have a field day with that one.
    Personally, I would not be interested in any monetary gain you might realize, but the correct punishment done for his falsifying documentation. That is a major problem and if you have the proof to illustrate that, it would be the best medical thing to do. If he has lied on documents about you, I would bet he has lied other times also
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • problem 1 this guy is a regular dr not a pain dr-see take 2 aspirin in the morning
    get a pain dr and take copies of ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL tests you have to him, cat scan, mri, -rays, nerve tests, injections, etc. if you don't have these then this is a major problem they can't help you without tests. i hope you have them aviable.
    are you ppo or hmo. if you need a referral then you might have a problem. if you are ppo then get a pain dr and take ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL your test to him
    good luck
    I have 4 fusions from L5-3, the latest last May '12 where they fixed my disc that broke.They went through my side this time. I take 40 mg of oxycontin 4x a day and 4 fenatyl lollipops 300 micro gms 4x a day.
  • Ron- Nah, I'm not going to sue him but if my WSIB claim screws up he's in deep doo-doo!!!

    MsHumpty- RE:ER...yup, I just may do that!!! THX

    Jon- thx for your input but here in Canada we have a different health system & you need a referral to see any "specialized doctor" from your GP.

    Our system here is called OHIP, basically it's a great health care service that everyone gets for free who is a resident of Ontario with a health card.

    Somethings are not covered such as dental work or cosmectic surgery but all the normal basic health care stuff is. Wealthy or not everyone is covered equally. Great system!!!

    thx all
  • Yeah, that dosing really had me scratching my head. He gives you a 2 week supply and says "see you in a month".

    Well, I once saw an OS and and he wrote my Vicodin scripts for only 30 pills at a time. I was to take 1 every 8 hours back then AS NEEDED. When they add AS NEEDED I guess that means that they don't expect you to take the same amount every day. Later on my scripts were rewritten "every 4 hours; max of 6" and I was given 180 pills a month.

    I hope you can get as far away from this GP as possible and find another doctor who is honest and that will listen to you.
  • Your Doctor sounds a lot like mine in some ways. Mine does treat my pain but it is very undertreated and he refuses to increase my pain meds. But it is better than nothing. The only reason I stay with this Doctor is because I am waiting for my first appointment with the Doctor who may be doing my pain pump implant.Unlike your Doctor mine is very good to me and has even called me just to see how I am doing. But he will NOT do more to treat my pain.
    I agree with everyone else you need to find another Doctor ASAP.
    Do NOT give up!! I fear it may take time.
    Best of luck to you. I hope you find help soon.
    Patsy W :H
  • Meydey - mindboggling that some docs have NO math skills at all or even a calculator handy!!!

    For the question you asked earlier, yes I had a MRI done waaay back in 2005 but they said they only found a small 5mm cyst in my pelvis. Nothing serious they said so nothing was done.

    Then I had a CT scan done back in 2006, they gave me the same ol song & dance, no worries.

    Fast forward to 2008, I had a work related injury & CT reported I had DDD, Osteoarthritis, L4-5 had Bulging Disc & Moderate Spinal Stenosis. Only thing Doc gave me was 30 Percocet per month yet 4 per day...duh! Tried PT but didn't help at all, infact I felt worse, so I quit.

    Below is the link of my last CT Scan ...done Sept 2009, after second work re-lated injury.


    DR. NO's reply to the latest scan...NOOO worries just ah...disc problems but increased the Percocet to 50 per month...that 4 x daily again. I kept complaining about all this blasted nerve pain, guess to shut me up he finally referred me to see a specialist...yeah...so I go see the Ortho in about a month from now.

    I asked Dr.No if that "5mm GAS thing" could possibly be a synovial cyst, as Gwennie17 thought. Any guesses what Dr. NO said??? bingo...NOOOO!!!

    Where am I now, years later??? NOOO-where...still don't know squat, can't sleep, horrible sciatic pain and now have NO doctor or meds, totally back to square one, but your right PatWhite I'm NOT giving up,(thank u) cause someone has to figure this mystery out. Oh Doc Sherlock where are you???

  • My thoughts/prayers remain with you :) Please do keep us updated how your doing.
    L1 - S2 "gone" useless in 1 way or another. DDD. RA. Bone Spurs. Tons of nerve damage/issues. Stenosis. Both knees replaced. 50 yrs old. I had a great fall (hence my user name) at age 41 and it has been a domino effect every since.
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