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I have incredibly bad luck,i must have a sign on my back!

tammycttammyc Posts: 894
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:38 AM in Neck Pain: Cervical
I was at physical therapy today,still working on my spine to try and get my discs in place and hopefully start feeling better soon. On my way home i had stopped at the bank to get out some money for my massage in the morning.Of course i was walking,such a nice day and i had left the bank and was walking down the sidewalk on a busy street near a highschool when a small car sped by me and someone in the car whipped a container full of crushed ice at my back. As soon as it hit me i stopped where i was a screamed in pain.It had hit my back in the same spot that my therapist had just finished working on.I had looked down at the ground to see what i had been hit with and as i looked back up i saw the car racing away.It was moving so fast that in a couple of sec. it had gone almost two blocks.I couldn't get the license plate as i didn't have my contacts in and it was moving to quick but i could see the kid in the back laughing.What a bunch of idiots!!!! L) Thank goodness i wasn't far from my house by then.I came in and took a pain pill and layed on some heat to relax the muscles that had already started to tighten up.I can't believe the luck i've been having since my surgery.First the car accident,and now this.Its like i'm not meant to get better.I'm affraid to see how i'm going to be in the morning.Hopefully i'll be able to sleep tonight.


  • RangerRRanger on da rangePosts: 805
    That is a downright physical assault and hopefully that loser will get their due justice. Too bad when they sped off they didn't slam into a wall or something similar as long as no other innocent bystander got injured also.
    Then you could have walked up to the car and introduced them to your attorneys Smith & Wesson.
    I am a firm believer in what goes around comes around and that jerk will get theirs. Take care Tammy and hope you don't have any further damage.
  • OMG! :jawdrop: what major jerks! I can think of MANY other names to call them, but don't want to get in trouble here - ya know lol ;)

    To bad you did not get something about them - then you could have made a police report.

    Hope you feel better >:D<
    L1 - S2 "gone" useless in 1 way or another. DDD. RA. Bone Spurs. Tons of nerve damage/issues. Stenosis. Both knees replaced. 50 yrs old. I had a great fall (hence my user name) at age 41 and it has been a domino effect every since.
  • Any idea what the car looked like? Even if you don't you should report it to the school principal.

    Also if you have a local paper I would call them and see if they would do a piece about mindless teenage violence. Because it is violence. If they stopped, got out and assaulted you it would be no different.
  • I never thought of what happened to me as assault.Definitely stupid kids that thought what they did was very funny,ignoring the fact that my back was hurt by what they did. I've been taking pain pills all night long and can still feel the pain.I wish i did know who they were because i would press charges.Teenagers do really stupid things and don't consider the consequences.Hopefully know permanent damage was done to my back and its just some bruising.I'd hate think that there could be more problems.
  • I don't mean to sound mean and I am the parent of a teenager who I hope wouldn't do something so stupid. I really think you need to contact the police tomorrow. They will tell you that they can't do anything without a description but they might put it together with a similar incident. At the least they need to contact the school that you were near.

    I know none of this takes away your pain but if we all stay quiet who will speak for us?

    Sleep well. And take that damn sign off already!!
  • I'm so sorry this happened to you. I hope you start get some releif from your pain shortly. It's incredible how disrespectful teenage kids are now-a-days. That is just horrific and I feel so bad for you.
  • I am in law enforcement, and what happened to you was assault and battery! Kids probably *think* they are just having fun, pranking...NO. Chances are high that they have done this before. If you can describe the vehicle, and even to some degree the kids:

    Caucasian male - brown hair, high pitched voice, odd accent etc., curly hair.... You probably remember a lot more than you realize!!!

    We have gotten results of suspects with less! It sounds like you can probably give a description of the vehicle, and maybe a "general" description of one or more of the kids. You have already identified that they were teens, and from the high school. Not a lot of "kids" drive to school, and if correct for driving age in most states, you are looking for a driver that is a Junior or Senior - see, knocking down the list right there! Go to the police station tomorrow. File a report, and if you can get a detective to look this over! A bit of a stretch, the bag the ice was in - finger prints if you can get it.

    It is so sad that kids do this type of thing more and more today! Even sadder - and I see that in South Florida, parents turn a blind eye or say "But my kid is a good kid, he/she wouldn't do that!" Sad....Oh, and that "innocent kid" - sheet taller than most people!

    Good luck with it, and more importantly, I hope you feel better soon and no damage was done! *HUG*

    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
  • I'm finally starting to get rid of some of the pain in my lower back and hip area from the incident on thurs. I still have trouble walking but its not as bad as it has been.I think with some time it will be fine,i'm pretty sure its just some bruising.Just been stretching my back so that it doesn't stiffen up too badly.
  • when i have pain in my back sometimes i feel like i'm swollen internally.thats how i've felt since i was hit by that ice last week.It feels like my bladder and everything below my bellybutton is swollen.Sometimes it hurts to urinate and i feel constipated and possibly am.Its a big change since i'm used to going a few times a day now i'm only going maybe once every three days.The medication i take has never caused constipationg before and it seems to have started right after the incident so at first i thought it could be because of all the inflammation internally but now its been almost a week and there isn't any difference.I'm starting to wonder if something else happened when i was hit in the back.I had therapy today,first time since it happened and was hoping for some kind of relief but so far there isn't any.
  • It sounds like constipation to me. You have been more immobile since the injury last week and have been taking more pain meds.

    Hope you feel better soon.

  • Unfortunately i haven't been taking more pain meds. just the first two days then i tapered back to what i was taking before.I don't like feeling tired all the time or numb.Right now all i'm taking is anti inflammatories with pain meds. in them. I was on T3 but finished the perscription a month ago and haven't called the doctor for a repeat.Its very difficult to get any pain meds. out of her and i just would rather suffer with the pain then get into another argument with her over what i need to take to make me feel ok.
  • I am so sorry to hear of this incident and I also agree you should report this to the police becuase it was an assault just think if maybe it hit your head could have knocked you out ! I would suggest if the pain does not get better try to at least get some pain meds and talk to your doctor they should understand the situation you are in and need something for pain...Hope you feel better soon !!
  • I agree with Brenda. If you can remember the time of day and all that Brenda said I would surely report them. It helps me to get busy when I'm in pain. I'd write a list of all I could remember and call the police and the school.

    I've worked with kids for many years. There are some real bad apples out there. It's terrible that they picked on you. I'm so sorry!
  • I just came from therapy,and talked to my therapist about my bladder,its still hurts alot and still feels swollen.He suggested that i get back into my doctor or go to her night clinic to be checked out again. I don't think that they'll do anything else because i'm already taking to anti inflammatories,but he said that the incident needs to be charted.Then they can look back and see how many times i've had bladder issues and say ok you need to see an ortho or a neurologist to figure this problem out.So i guess after lunch i'll call her again.
  • Hi Tammy,

    It really bothers me that your doctor won't give you pain meds unless you argue with her. That is unexceptable!!!! Looking at your tag line at what you've been through, it is obvious you are in pain. You need meds!!! I think it is time to find a better doctor who will take your needs seriously. It's bad enough to be in pain and have your life altered that you don't need an uncaring argumentative doctor who won't help you on top of it.

    Keep us posted.
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,842
    with doctors and pain medications. Put aside any contracts that patients may have to sign. There are so many variables involved with this that it is impossible for any of us to tell a member to leave one doctor and go find another that will provide medications.

    That might be the final action, but before that is taken, I know that both the patient and he doctor need to understand WHY they are not prescribing some pain medications. And WHAT pain medications are we talking about.
    Doctors have an obligation to tell their patients why they are taking one course of action or another.

    I have talked this over with my Pain mgt doctor many times. She has told me that the three major reasons she refuses to write a prescription for pain medications are:

    1 - The doctor has asked he patient to go to Physical Therapy, go for a Spinal injection, etc. The patient decides they do not want to do any of that. So basically the patient becomes non-compliment

    2 - The doctor feels that just staying on pain medications is not the right action plan. They may feel that other medications (nerve, muscle relaxers, anti-depressents, etc might be a better course of action

    3 - The doctor believes that the patient does not have the pain they are talking about, therefore will not write any new scripts

    Each case is really individual and there are no fast and firm guidelines.

    The most important thing here is for he patient to make sure that the communication path is fully established with their doctor.

    Just jumping to another doctor may not solve anything and it also has
    the possibilities in creating more problems .. So often doctors find
    new patients, read their charts from the previous doctor and can sense that there is a potential of drug seeker going on.

    Tammy, I know that while you are in pain, you need relief, hopefully, you will be able to talk this over with your doctor and come up with a solution
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • with so many of your comments.However my doctor doesn't have my file from my previous doctor nor has she ever asked for it.Her comments to me makes no sense what so ever. She tells me that she doesn't want me on strong pain meds. because many people get addicted to them and it starts in the doctors office.The first thing that i was told when i saw my neurosurgeon was that if your pain is that bad and narcotics helps it and puts you in a better place then you won't get addicted to them.Its when your pain level goes down and you continue to take them that there is a problem.She tells me that she'll never send me to a surgeon for my pain problems that only pain meds. and anti inflammatories will help me,perscribes me the meds. in her office and tells me how to take them and then when i call for a repeat,she refuses to give it to me even though i've made the pain med. perscription last longer then i needed to just to prove that i wasn't abusing them.She sends me to physcial therapy to try and help my back saying i'll never see a surgeon no matter how bad off i get and the therapy causes the pain to get worse but then says that she won't give me more pain meds. what kind of treatment is that.When i go to her and ask to be referred to someone else to manage my pain she offers all the meds. i want to keep me there but once she thinks i'm staying she cuts me off and makes me suffer again.I don't think she's interested in treating me she just wants the money for the assessments she's getting.As for being no-compliant.I think that falls back on her because i can only do what she'll allow me to do.I've been doing therapy ever since i had my surgery done,actually two months after that so since june of 2008.I went and spoke to a lawyer about my situation and his biggest problem was if i'm having so many problems and this is so bad then why am i only doing therapy and massages why am i not being sent to someone like a surgeon or neurologist to be looked at.I told him because my doctor refuses to do anything else for me.She doesn't know why i have numbness,she doesn't know why my bladder keeps acting up and she told me that she's not doing anymore tests to find out.The patient needs to co operate and get along with the doctor but the doctor also needs to be sympathetic to the patient and as far as i can see that isn't happening.
  • Anyways none of that really matters,i woke up thurs. morning with a headache thankfully i had a massage that was already booked.During my massage my therapist told me that the back of my neck and head were really swollen up and my right shoulder and arm also were swollen along with my hip area.He said he doesn't know why but my joints all over my body seem to be swelling.That night my headache got a lot worse and everytime i'd lay down and put any pressure on my neck the room would start to spin and i would have to go throw up.I was up almost all night long.I'm taking two kind of anti inflammatories and shouldn't be swelling like that,i just can't understand why it keeps happening and neither does my massage therapist. I called my doctors office friday morning and was told the standard answer,sorry no apt. available were completely booked up and was told to go to the walk in clinic.The one anti inflammatory that i take i was told not to take any over the counter meds. like advil or ibuprofen because i would over dose on it.So i wasn't sure what to do for it. I felt so bad that there was no way i would be able to sit for a few hours at a clinic to wait to see a doctor so i just took a gravol for the nausea and the regular meds that i take every day and i kept putting an ice pack on the back of my head and neck.I have a very routine life,do the same things every day,i know i didn't do anything out of the ordinary to cause this to happen and its been over a year since my surgery,i shouldn't still be swelling like that.Anyways the gravol knocked me out for half of my day and i just layed around for the rest of it and tried to relax and hope that the pain went away.Its early sat. morning and i'm still feeling the effects of the headache though not as bad as before.
    I feel like i'm starting to slip back into pre surgery mode.Everything is going wrong and my body is slipping back wards instead of getting stronger and healthier its starting to break down again and get worse. I'm getting to the point where i just feel like everything that i'm doing just isn't going to help me get better and i've had enough. I feel like i'm overwhelmed with everything thats happened since the accident and i just don't feel like i can fight for myself any longer.I think i'm done.
  • I am so sorry all this is happening to you!!!! *HUG* Many here support you. Please don't give up. Is there anyone you can talk with about this? Also too (as I don't know what insurance you have) can you switch doctors? I agree it sounds like the doctor isn't listening to you - and given what I read in your signature, they should refer you to a neurologist, or neurosurgeon.

    Please don't give up! Pain sucks...no question, but there has to be a doctor that can help you out, and figure this out? Take care, and try to stay strong - may sound hard to do now, but please try!!!

    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
  • Can you go to your primary care physician and get a referral to see someone else. Due to insurance reasons, I have to go through my PCP anytime I need to see another specialist or schedule another procedure. I wasn't satisfied with my surgeon after having issues after surgery so I went to my PCP and he referred me to a neurosurgeon. My primary doc has been amazing through all this. He would even prescribe my pian meds while I was inbetween specialists.

    I would suggest the next time you get those dizzy spells where you throw up and the pain is that bad you should go to the emergency room. I'm not familiar with the cervical area but I know enough to understand those symptoms are not good.

    Keep us posted.
  • Hi Tammy,

    I stand by my previous post. Please go see a new doctor. If your general doctor is compassionate, go see him. If not, go to urgent care or emergency and begin to get the attention that you need. You will likely always be in some level of pain, me too, but we do not need to suffer nor be brushed off by arrogant money grubbing doctors!

    PM me if you want to talk. I'm here for you.
    Big gentle hugs,
  • I agree with Dee. It is time to find a new PCP. I suggest you collect your chart/records. Call in advance and have them prepare your records (there may be a small fee). In the meantime call all of your friendly people and ask them if they can recommend their doctor. My hair dresser introduced me to my PCP. My other friends suggested my NS (as well as my PCP).

    I can't understand why we should settle for less? This person the doctor works for you. Sure they get paid by your insurance but they work for you not your insurance company.

    About 17 years ago I had the worst doctor. I chose her since my sister and mother had seen her. She was aweful. As I layed in the maternity ward in preterm labor for a week she kept coming in telling me I needed to loose weight (I was 150# I guess she wanted me to be $125#). I am on bed rest hospitalized and all she can do is tell me that? So the last day I employed her was the day she told me I was being sent home. Before I was released a different md came in to examine me. He said your going to have your baby in a few hours.... My daughter was 11 weeks premature and my pcp/gyno was fired.

    Ask your friends they will tell you if they LOVE their doctors or if the doctor is okay. Go see the ones who are LOVED.

  • Tammy,

    My mother is going through exactly the same thing that you are. She sees an orthopod who's told her for years that she is not a surgical candidate. She has virtually no disc material in her lumbar spine, and though we haven't seen an MRI of her c-spine for some time, mine has already crumbled to dust and it's a genetic gift from her, so hers is doubtless much worse.

    Through many connections in the medical community, I've been told that this doctor is more interested in treating his bank account than his patients. The entire politicsl party When she was dependent on him to testify in a lawsuit resulting from a traffic accident, I was told she'd better not leave the practice until it was over because he had a reputation for testifying where the money (for him) was whether what he said was true or not.

    Dr. R. gives her the same run-around about medication. He says no surgery,(perhaps because he's not a surgeon), the PT is afraid to work on her and she's had shot after shot after shot, conveniently provided in his practice. She was scheduled for an MRI last week (at HIS OFFICE on the other side of the world from where she lives) snd when she asked if she could have it done at a facility much closer to home, he got angry and refused to return her phone calls. I guess he still has a few payments to make on his MRI equipment. She's in so much pain that there is no way she'll be able to lie still long enough for an MRI, but his office is not only not equipped to do the MRI under general, but they can't even give her IV meds, yet he won't let her go somewhere that is more able to help her get through even this evaluation, much less to see a doctor who might really be able to help her.

    She's allergic to a whole host of medications and we've been to the ER twice in anaphylactic shock. She takes hydrocodone and Soma, and clonazepam to sleep, plus an anti-depressant and Synthroid. Oxycontin doesn't work for her, and Neurontin and several forms of morphine just made her fall on the floor. He actually told her to take morphine and hydrocodone together when he first started her on the morphine.

    Now he says he's done all he can do for her (except get the money out of her pocket for that MRI) and is cutting off her medication completely. Actually just quitting clonazepam can give you seizures.

    So now she's making an appointment to see my own neurosurgeon and we can see what's what. It's well past time when she should have left that quack, who's no better than a street dealer - got her dependent on the meds he's been giving her and then cut her off. She's depressed and has talked about suicide repeatedly. Well, of course she has; she's on specific narcotics which are by definition depressants, she's in pain 24/7 and no one will help her.

    Tammy, you need to make your own decision about which doctor to see, but if yours isn't helping you, if I were you, I'd find someone who can. And I would absolutely look into an anti-depressant; a lot of people think of them as a crutch, but in fact, depression is a chemical imbalance over which you have no control, any more than you would be able to control diabetes without insulin. As far as looking for a new doc, the only thing I know of that would be a worry is that you don't want to appear to be "doctor shopping" to see who will give you the most medication. But in your position, I certainly would not continue to pay for services which are not being rendered.

    You might want to read my post under "I want to tell off my neurosurgeon" to give you more courage.

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