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Why are Drs. so mean?

tmcj4ttmcj4 Posts: 13
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:45 AM in Neck Pain: Cervical
Went to new family dr. today I am in pain I tell him. After having my 3rd CESI. I had to go to the hospital and follow up with Elmer Fudd. He told me I was hurting because of the meds I am taking. I am an abuser. He has never saw anyone take what I take and still hurt. He wants me to get off of the meds. Meanwhile I have had a headache since March, I have 3 bulging disc in neck and no help AGAIN. I see an Orthopedic dr. Wed. Please, someone help me with what I am doing or saying wrong. I showed the dr exactally where I hurt and he says it is in my mind. I am going crazy. Thanks for your help. Michelle


  • Hi Michelle

    I'm curious about why you went to a GP if you already know you have bulging disks and are getting meds from other doctors. I know some people here use their GP as a hub in their wheel of treatment. I don't have a GP who can do that so my neurologist has been that person.

    What do the other doctors say about your bulging disks? A good orthopedist or neurologist should be able to tell where the pain is coming from. Sometimes the bulges arent bad enough to be causing pain. But then they should be looking somewhere else.

    The other idea would be to see a surgeon. I've found that different doctors can look at the same report and come up with different answers. I think that is because of their training and what they have seen in their years of practice.
  • :??
    Glad you are going to see a specioalist. forgive typing permanent nerve damage from a nearly severed nerve.
    THe headache is most likely the rebound affect. Those you have to work through and when on constant pain meds (like myself) they happen. you will find you are not the exception to pain as you read thrpugh thre forums. Manyu Dr's don't have a clue to what we go through.
  • I see from an earlier post of yours a month ago that one of your cervical discs is bulging and touching your spinal cord. What have you been told about possible treatments?

    Guess I have basically the same question as Kris-NY --why would you go to a GP to get help with your pain at this point? And why a new GP? Some other doctor is obviously prescribing a lot of medication for you. It seems like he should be the one you go to if your pain is not controlled. Maybe you haven't given us enough information, but what you describe sounds like doctor shopping to me and that will get you in trouble if you're seeing different doctors to get pain medication. Not trying to judge your motives, just sharing a word of caution.

    2009 Foraminotomy C6-72010 PLIF L4-S1Multi RFA's, cervical inj, lumbar injLaminectomy L3-4 and fusion w/internal fixation T10-L4 July 17Fusion C2-C5 yet to be scheduled
  • Don't go to mean doctors. Ask your friends, a doctor you love, etc for referrals.

    If you are taking large doses of narcotics, that needs to be managed by a specialist, a pain management doctor. They are trained to deal with things like tolerance (which is why we need large doses but we still have pain) and withdrawals. When you see the ortho, ask for names so you can get in with one. Then when you have pain you will have someone to go to who understands your situation.

    Unfortunately, the population of doctors is just like the population of people- some nice, some not. It's up to you to put in the footwork to put together your team of doctors. For me, the hardest part was just getting past the fear of dealing with the system. Once I finally got out there and started doing it, it was easy- although I am still looking for an ortho, I have filled all of the other positions with doctors who are kind and have great office staff, so when I need something I feel comfortable asking for it.
  • I guess in part I am going to echo Kris and Linda in their posts. If I may, I have some questions that might help us understand?

    1. How did you find out you had bulging disks?
    2. What sort of doctor told you this, and or did they order an MRI or CT to see them?
    3. If you've seen the report, is there any indications that the disk material is crowding or impinging nerves or the cord?
    4. 3rd ESI - normally GP's don't prescribe them since a spine specialist normally (I know, not always of course) or PM's have patients get them.
    5. Who prescribed the meds your on now, and why are you not still with that doctor?

    I use my GP for my 'normal or new' things to see if I need to see someone else, or she can help me out. She also does update my prescriptions, but that is in part that she knows my NS and Ortho surgeons. While she may give me scrips for imaging, she doesn't act on them when they are spine related, she recommends various Neuros that she knows to make the specialized determination.

    Same as above, no judging here, just a bit confused is all. ESI shots (3rd one now), several 'bulging' disks, going to a GP with these issues for treatment and meds. Sorry, a little confused. I hope you have a good exam with the Ortho you have an appointment scheduled with. I hope he/she is a spine trained specialist. Please keep us posted.

    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
  • I know how awful some of these MD's can be, and it is a bitter pill to swallow. Not all doctors are alike when it comes to pain meds, and as hard as it is to distance your negative interactions, you have to try, try and then try again.
    I found that most dr's or at least the majority of them are opoidphobic. They are you run of the mill Elmer Fudd's and the truth of the matter is that they seem to live in there own square world. They will resort to doing/saying anything to get out of prescribing. Here's the rub"
    1/ You know more than them about your pain needs.
    2/ you have read more than they on this.
    3/ You will never change them.....just appeal to someone new and run, not walk, away.
    I had a new primary (whom I knew professionally) start to lecture me tha Vicodan and Percocet are addictive, and my ears started to twitch in an effort to save him from further making an Elmer Fudd Edited out of himself.I did, however, tolerate the lecture on 'you shouldn't smoke' and assured him I was going to make that Edited appointment for a Edited mammogram. I distinguish dr's like him in my address book by putting an arrow after thier names to show how straight they are in my world of pain.

    Post edited for inappropriate language by moderator haglandc
  • over the years i have met some real winners (e.f.'s)
    and some down right rude ones.
    I told them few choice words and left and told them do not bill my insurance and i won't report you....
    Not sure why you ended up back to a new gp?
    Unless your trying to get a new referrals..
    Its horrible when anyone says to person in pain its in your head....
    I would not be returning to that doc..
    Have to agree with the rest here...
    brenda brings up some valid points(as always)who sent you for esi's and tests? were is doc that gave you all the meds you take????
    hope this ortho helps you...
    Have a ? who sent you for esi's most of them are done by a pain mang doc...so why isn't that doc taking care of your meds??
    best of luck to you
    neck,bone spurs pain started 04, back issues and fusion l4,l5 06~hardware removed.
    good few yrs. 09 pain sharp, numbness feet,legs, diagnosed fibro, neurop. legs.lung issues.
    daily goal do good thing for someone.
  • The only reason I have gone to a new GP is because my old one retired. My PM dr. says I have to have a GP. I know GP will not give me any new meds. I do not want them. I had to follow up with GP after I was in the ER for a headache. From my understanding I have to have a GP. I don't know. But I get my meds from PM. I do not dr. shop. I am wanting to get to the bottom of my problem. So hopefully the ortho. will help. I am sick and tired of my neck hurting and feeling like I am stupid.:)
  • Thanks for clarifying this--you're certainly not stupid and I do hope you can get to the bottom of your continuing pain problem. You know that you are not drug-seeking or abusing the drugs, so I hope you don't let anyone discourage you in your quest for help.

    2009 Foraminotomy C6-72010 PLIF L4-S1Multi RFA's, cervical inj, lumbar injLaminectomy L3-4 and fusion w/internal fixation T10-L4 July 17Fusion C2-C5 yet to be scheduled
  • I agree w/the other people, my gp is not my pain medication presciber. The gp keeps my blood pressure under control, but of course keeps up w/what medication I am on. I have c4 - c7 fused, cage, plate, screws, and cadiver bones. My neuro sees me often to evaluate the medication. I am in pain every day with taking muscle relaxers and pain pills. My elmer fudd was the surgeon, he was totally mean!!! He instructed me to go find a job at two weeks post op with a hard collar still wrapped around my neck. He did not think I was in pain, in his narrow eyes he fixed the problem so I should be bouncing all over America on a skate board. Thank goodness my neuro was NOT in agreement and is helping me. God is teaching me patiences!!!!
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