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Luke warm "wet" feeling in legs? Is it bad?

Aviatrix36440Aviatrix36440 Posts: 5,904
edited 06/11/2012 - 7:47 AM in Degenerative Disc Disease
Fellow Spineys,

I'm thinking this is probably nothing, but wanted to toss this out for some feedback? My issues are protrusions affecting my L2/3/4 (but..L2&3 nerve roots), and as such most of my symptoms aside from constant back pain, I get numbness, weakness and tingles and pain towards the outer side of the hips, and it wraps around the front of my thighs to the inner side of my knees, and sometimes the side of my calf's.

I've heard of this "feeling" before, but never had it till this week. I had just sat down to enjoy a cup of coffee. Just as I put the cup down after my first sip, I had the feeling of luke warm water running down the front of my right thigh. My first thought was "dummy, you spilled some coffee on yourself", and my hand immediately went to my leg expecting a 'wet area', but none was there! It didn't hurt, and it only lasted about 30 seconds.

I've now had this happen 4 or 5 more times - always when sitting. Is this something I should worry about? Is it telling me by way of symptom that something is getting worse? I guess I am not use to 'being wet' without actually being wet, plus no pain with it, and short duration. I have all kinds of crap going on with my neck, and I've never had "wet arms" or anything. It's probably nothing, but my back has only been chronic since last December, so still new with the junk that goes on with it. Thanks guys!!


PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.


  • Before i had my surgery i had developed the same sensation in my legs.
    Except it didnt feel like a dripping, but it did go from the tingling to a warmish wet feeling.
    I only got it after i was sitting and in my left leg.
    I told the PM doctor about it, and he said my symptons were getting worse.
    It was all in my calf area and felt like my pants were wet.
    So you're not imanaging it.
    I still have the pain and tingling in my left leg when i sit too long now. But the wet feeling is gone.
    Doctor said something about the nerves being pressed on.
  • There's been some posts about this feeling in the legs.http://www.spine-health.com/forum/sciatica-leg-pain-radiculopathy/wet-and-heat-sensations-lower-leg I have feelings like water dripping and have to check also. I have DDD in all my lumbar spine and have recovered from L5-S1 herniated disc and annular tear but the tear was no longer seen on my MRI but the PM Dr. says I have nerve compression as I still get this dripping water sciatica, numb and tingling in my left lateral calf and sometimes the front of my shin and foot numbness. I hope you mention it to your Dr. especially with numbness if you're having that also. Charry
    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
  • Aviatrix36440 said:

    I get numbness, weakness and tingles and pain towards the outer side of the hips, and it wraps around the front of my thighs to the inner side of my knees, and sometimes the side of my calf's.

    Dear Brenda,

    What you have decribed here, is exactly what I feel when my right IT band is flaring up. This also happens when the bursitis in my right hip is on fire.

    Are you in PT by chance? My Physical Therapist who helps me with my "waist down" issues, has me do several stretches each day to help me with this problem. She also has to break-up the recurring scar tissue along my IT bands, which truly helps. At the time she is doing this, she isn't my favorite person in the world. I won't sugar coat what it feels like when scar tissue is broken up with that "rolling pin" of hers. It hurts and it hurts bad. However, once she is done... the endorphin release is incredible and my thighs and outer hip areas feel much better. I am swaddled in warm moist heat after these treatments.

    Yes, I do get a wet sensation feeling from time to time.

    Not sure if this is what you are experiencing Brenda, but your description perfectly matches what I feel with my IT band(s).

    I would try warm moist heat, followed by a heating pad and then some Lidoderm patches for relief. My nerves get riled up good in my legs, so I take a Neurontin as soon as I lay down to be swaddled in the moist heat.

    Please keep us posted, Brenda.

    Tammy >:D<
  • Howdy Tammy,

    My PT is aqua-therapy presently. I haven't been in the pool for like 2 weeks. The reason for it is for some reason the last 3 times I was in the pool within about 15-20 minutes my dang feet start cramping really bad. How that is connected to my L2/3 nerve roots I don't know. They don't cramp at any other time.

    The water feeling for me is "luke warm", and it's like something was 'poured' on me. Not drippy like, but a smooth patch of water? As I type this, I just had it happen in my left leg! Weird...and like the right leg, 30 seconds or so, and bing, gone!

    So far no surgery to my back - been dealing more with a messed up (cracked vertebra between the fusions, loss of yet another level) neck. Between my L2/3 the disk is protruding laterally into the L2 & L3 nerve exit route and aft onto the sac. The L3/4 it is protruding into the right exit nerve (L3). Isn't this stuff so fun? Grrrr...Thanks Tammy. *HUG*

    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
  • Jim,

    I am sort of thinking that things must be changing...again too! Yeah, no 'dripping' feeling, more of as I mentioned initially, something being spilled on my leg. If anything, I am glad if something is changing, it isn't a pain issue! (G) Usually with me it is increases in pain when things start getting worse, wet/warm I can handle - it's just weird! :)

    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
  • Charry,

    Thanks for the link. I will call my doctors office to get an appointment Monday. I think I am going to ask for a new MRI - my last for the lumbar was last March. I guess some get wet "cold" as well as like me, 'warm'. I did notice that most everyone that gets this also only get it when sitting?

    Sorry to hear you're getting it now. Before this I basically got use to the front of my thighs 'buzzing' more than tingle? Hard to describe, but buzzy is my norm. If I walk to long, the buzz changes to intermittent numbness and pain. So, since this has been going more often (the wet), I see that now as a change of "something" based on you alls experience. Thanks so much for your input. Believe it or not, I feel better about it now. Thanks guys!! *HUGZ*

    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
  • here, I remember you mentioning about this, and sorry I could not be of any help, my lumbar levels are stabilized for now from rhizotomy and all of the chronic changes are throughout my cervical spine.

    The only thing I ever experienced with the "wet-warm" was the leg pain, numbness from my degenerating hip, which I for 4 years thought was coming from my lumbar degneration. It turned out once my hip was totally degenerated in chronic stage and x-rays showed bone-to-bone was it clear that it was my hip!

    I understand now the difference if it is arthritic degen in hip is it is more typically in front of thigh and down the leg.

    From what you are experiencing and status of your lumbar, most likely it is your lumbar.

    Good to hear you're gonna get that MRI done...and hoping you can get some clearer answers for the change in symptoms you are having and some treatments that may help relief what's a goin' on!! ((((hug)))


  • Howdy Janelle,

    Nodding, I am figuring that is where it is coming from too. I did some digging on this site, and bit on the net, and most of what I could find was 'increased' incidents of nerve compression in the lumbar region. Sigh... As I mentioned earlier, at least *this* new change doesn't include or increase pain. :)

    I've added this change to my pain/symptoms log. I miss the day when nerves were 'seen and not felt'...(G)

    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
  • Brenda,

    Re: MRI

    Will you have to see your NS to get the MRI reviewed? or is it Primary Dr ordered and reviewed with Neurologist?

    Wasn't sure how that would work out for you with the pending issues and your pending C-spine issues and your NS - - in sense of being thoroughly on track for you without any agenda so to speak.

    You deserve the best in getting that lumbar fully assessed and my heart-thoughts are that you get that (and more) !!

  • Actually I am going to get updated MRI's for the Cervical and Lumbar. My NS didn't do anything for a 12 month post op! For that reason I am also going to get the script for the ext./flex x-rays for my neck. I am also going to ask for a 3D CT scan for my neck. I *might* bring them to my present NS to see what he thinks, but I am starting to lean the other way, as my hubby didn't like the 'lack of follow up' from my NS, so probably going to get a new surgical opinion.

    It just still ticks me off in that before these issues with my neck started my NS was open and caring,but my NS has been more distant. I now see what many on here have commented on when their "fix" didn't go via the 'textbook' way. Sad really. I do understand their pride and ego - pilots, we are the same way, but you don't just ignore or drop patients that have issues. Oops, never mind, some do!

    The Radiologist that reads and writes the reports at the facility I go to for MRI's is also a board certified Neurologist, so I am very comfortable with him and his assessment of my tests. Once I find out what is going on, I will decide who I will go to for the surgical consult. It just sux realizing I am not only "going through this again", but a whole lot of more intensity and levels. I guess me an our Wii are going to be best buds! (G) :)

    I was already given a 'preview' of what is needed if they have to go back into my neck to include the addition of C7/8 (T1). C2/3 I think I will use another surgeon for that level, as from what I've seen and heard, due to the C2 vertebra being different required a different anchoring system, and too the surgery is more so done through the back. I am now symptomatic for that level, so I know that surgery isn't a "if" but when. Shrug.

    I am going to be cognizant of the warm water/wet feelings. I was out to dinner with the hubby and it happened, and instinctively I immediately again reached down for my 'wet spot' that wasn't there. So weird. Only sitting still, only sitting....

    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
  • Brenda,

    Sounds good that you'll be getting the C-Spine and Lumbar MRI's done and with the Neurologist who has been on your journey with you.

    I know once you are able to review and assess fully what is happening, that you'll move forward with the very best NS and what you so deserve, and nothing less! :)

    We have such a similar "hop-skotch" going Spiney Twin! My C-6/7 into T-1 well over due for surgery and issues with C-2/3 calmed down sfter mva broadside t-bone after 10 months non-interventional treatments (a miracle really). Those are the only 2 areas for both of us left. I'm so hoping C-2/3 continues stabilized (it's the first most adaptive level of my whole spine since birth with the Klippel Feil deformity and abnormal and no vertebrae).

    You continue to be such a comrade on this spiney journey with having C-2/3 being on an active on the agenda for surgery.

    I'm walkin with ya woman!! You are an amazing Spiney Warrior!!!

    My heart-thoughts and prayers are with you as you undergo your new scans and assessment with your fine Neurologist. It's been a privilege and honor to know and walk with you and I know from the excellence of your spirit and way you have come through in this life.... you deserve nothing less to have:

    The MRI's and all diagnostics of your Cervical and Lumbar spine result in.....

    your path will have clarity and lead you to an expert Surgeon ready to offer his expertise and genius assessment and treatment plan for what surgical mastery procedures are being done to allow your Cervical and Lumbar spine to receive full stabilization and restoration and function to your body !!!

    I'm believin and walkin with ya Woman!! ((((hugs)))

  • Janelle,

    Hopefully you won't have the lumbar issues come into it. Yuck! (G) After reading what I have on here, and too the bit of surfing I did on the net, I am pretty sure the lumbar is changing, but not for the good. Until this 'wet' business came up, I was back to focusing on the neck. Sala-vi huh?

    As for my C2/3 that has been progressing for years. It's only been this year that the numb neck, ear lobe and headaches have been an issue. The "Rice Krispie" noises are more common up there too - that I think is the bone spurs bumping more and more. I am glad that your level is stabilizing. Hopefully they won't have to do anything at that level for you. Fingers crossed for ya woman!! :)

    Spiney Warrior, hehehe.. now I just need to get the war paint, and I will be fully outfitted. (BG) I asked the hubby to remind me to call my GP, cuz otherwise I get into this and that, and forget! I think that is a subconscious part of me trying to stay in the denial stage. Talking with you has helped me move out of that stage, and get my butt moving again. Gotta hit the dentist too, and get the ole eyeball yearly done. Aaahhh...love putting doctors kids through college, don't you? All for the continual battle of the spines!

    So far, no 'wet' legs today. Having said that.....

    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
  • Re: Warrior paint...

    "by ye spirit of ye is your stripes!

    Hey, remind me once I did a native warrior retreat, nature camping, campfire, commune with nature, and we danced our power animal?!! great experience!

    Re: your Lumbar symptoms

    Does any of the reading / information associate these symptoms as neuro symptoms i.e. nerve compression?

    Re: C-2/3 symptoms

    Brenda, wanted to let you know those symptoms (described more below) have been with me for over 15-18 yrs. And nothing has been sign of instability and even with my severe deformity (as explained below). Hope that may ease your concern.

    Of course, as always get it checked out in ???'s with diagnostics assessment/review appts. but I understand these symptoms occur for some time and not indicative that it is instability or of serious concern, unless more chronic symptoms, stiffness, pain is more progressive.

    re: cranial and facial numbness has been with me 25+ yrs. Headaches have only been from trauma, a fall, mva's and the longest onset of migraines were following the mva's broadside collision.

    re: other symptoms

    periodic sudden "flush" (warmth) over one side of face or in ear area, those can be neuro (nerve) or vascular.

    I've had those symptoms for about 12 years. ENT and Neurologist diagnosed after ENT ear and facial tests, as anamolies. Oh, also a "bruit" (hearing blood pulse from inside my ear) when my head is laying on side on a pillow. These are only episodic occasionally. medically known as basilar anamolies (typically vascular and neuro nerve). It's my unique C-2 malformed bone/tissue abnormal hemi-vertebrae angled onto C-3.

    Re: bone/ligament symptoms

    I understand the "crackling", mine is a "grinding" when turned to the right, and a "slipping" movement when turned to the left is bone/ligament. I have lived with those symptoms for past 12+ yrs.

    Very interesting - - hey - - keeps things from being simple for us spineys and keeps the white-coats busy!!

  • Sorry just ignore my ? about the warm-wet sensation, you already mentioned in your earlier post that it was neuro nerve compression!

    I'm on track! :)

  • Nodding Janelle,

    The wet is from what I could derive from my own research is directly lumbar originated in most instances. In the last few months, standing, sitting and walking "limits" have changed dramatically. The pain is about the same levels mind you, but the onset is a whole lot faster! If the seat is padded well, I can sit longer - I just have to keep changing my position. That is where I had the 'wet' bit start. I get it in one of two positions. Sitting with my ankles crossed in front of me, and me leaning a little forward. The other is when I fold my right leg up as if a partial "Indian style" sitting - I only tuck the foot, not cross the leg.

    Standing so far doesn't do it. After only a few minutes of standing I have to lean on a wall or something (counter), or if bad I lean forward with my hands supporting me on my thighs...argh!

    The C2/3 for me. The only trauma to that level was crashing the helicopter. I wake most times now with some level of headache - worse if I lay flat. If I eat food (like hot dogs) where I have to open my jaw wide (and I noticed we tilt our head back to bite), I get a megga headache. Always starts at the base of my skull behind the bottom of my left ear.

    When I started losing my voice with regularity 5 months post op, it was my ENT who discovered that my hardware was moving, and screwing my vocal cords up. At first he thought by my speech I had a paralyzed cord - thankfully just constantly irritated! Then he saw my x-rays that showed the cracked vertebra between the dissimilar hardware. Turning my head in different directions induce coughing - that gets old fast! The rest that is new in the last 8-12 months is the numb neck (scarf like feel, or wearing a turtle neck!), the numb ear lobe, and yep, pain at the top of my neck, worse when I tilt my head to the right. Does the top of your neck make "squish" noises when you move your head left or right? It's a weird noise for sure! :)

    This is just so much fun....NOT! :( Will never be the old me again, just a more expensive me! (G)

    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
  • I just call those Lyrica moments Janelle! No hurt, no foul there! (G)

    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
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