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Scott in the UKSScott in the UK Posts: 136
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:47 AM in Lower Back Pain
Well I've noticed posts/threads called October 2010 surgery and September before that.
I posted on the October 2010 thread stating that I had my fusion surgery set for October 19th but unfortunately that was cancelled on October 1st.

I have now had another appointment set for November 16th so fingers crossed this will actually take place and not be cancelled agin.

Good luck to anyone else having surgery between now and then.


  • I am so pleased you were able to get another date so soon - 16 November is not that far away. As you said, let's hope that doesn't get cancelled and that, once you're on the other side, you can start your recovery and ultimately get back some quality of life in a little less pain. Good luck!
    2 x Microdiscectomy 2005 / PLIFusion 2-level 2010 / revision surgery 2011 / NEVRO Senza spinal cord stimulator implanted February 2013. I WILL NOT GIVE IN / UP !!
  • Sorry to hear your surgery got bumped. I get opened up on Nov. 9th. I would be furious if they pushed my surgery off for a month. I realize there’s difference between the NHS in the UK, and what we have here in the US. Just being a typical American I guess, I pay for insurance I want service NOW, chop chop!!!(excuse the pun).

    There’s a November thread in the Surgery forum as well, I think it’s down the list a bit on the 2nd page. Good luck to you on the 16th, raise bloody hell if they push you off again.

  • . . . and Sue for your best wishes.
    The problem I've got is I may have to go upto Coventry the day before and the last time I had to go for surgery I booked into a hotel room and went upto it in the lift.
    I sat on my bed and told my brother(who drove me up there) to put the kettle on and my mobile ran.
    It was the hospital calling to tell me that my surgery was cancelled as they had no available beds.
  • We started a November thread under surgery about 2 weeks ago...come join. we are taking inventory so we can wish each other well and follow up with each other.

  • lets hope that this surgery wont get cancelled!
    good luck my friend
  • Scott, do you have to check into the hospital first thing in the morning, or is there a chance of getting an afternoon surgery? While I have been to both Gloucester and Coventry (about 20 years ago), I don’t have the slightest idea how long it takes to get from one to the other. If I recall they’re not terribly far as the crow flies; via the English motorway system is probably a different story. Man, checking into a hotel only to get that call truly would have sent me over the edge.

    Any way of getting your doctor involved? I realize you’d be going up against the Mt. Everest of bureaucracies, but I’ve always subscribed to the theory of “the squeaky wheel gets the oil”. Start calling the hospital every single day to confirm your surgery date and time. Granted you’ll probably always be told the same thing, but you can take solace in the fact that you’ll be annoying the utter crap out of the same people that caused you a great deal of inconvenience and expense. Petty maybe, but satisfying nonetheless. Ultimately they’ll just want to be rid of you. Of course if you think it could backfire on you than probably best to leave well enough alone. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you on the 16th.

  • Hi all,
    I hope you're all well.
    Today is Thursday-2 days post op' and I've been walking up and down the corridor as part of my therapy.They want to remove my 'on demand' morphine canular tomorrow and are saying I maybe home by the weekend.I guess I'll be back onto my 'oxycontin'
    after that !!

    So far so good.
  • good what all did they have to do #:S
  • I popped into this thread hoping that you had made a post-op post and low and behold you did!

    I'm so glad that you're doing well post-op and that you're on the other side. The closest thing to heaven that you'll experience next is being home.

    I was very happy to have my morphine pump when I was in the hospital and glad to hear you've had one also. It really is a great thing to have, it helps so much with the pain.

    How are you feeling? How was your first time log-rolling out of bed? I ask because I'll never forget my first log-roll out of bed post-op - the worst pain I'd ever felt.

    Will you be wearing a back brace? Give us all the gory details, man! Just kiddin' - I just want to know how you're doing, what the plan is post-op and know that you've got everything ready at home so you're as comfortable as you can be for the next few weeks.

    Take care Scott and thanks for updating us. It's always good to hear from a member post-op and that things are going well.

  • You're right-home will be great!

    I had a pump yesterday which they swapped last night for my old 'oxycontin(oxycodone)-60mgs.
    I woke up this morning expecting to be in agony but I'm pleasantly surprised.

    My 1st 'log roll' was a bit of an ordeal but I think it was a 'fear of the unknown'that made it worse.

    My wife will be here around 2p.m so that'll be nice!!
  • Hi Scott. Glad you are out the other side and doing well. I know it's early days but lookin' good?

    Be great for you to get home, relax in your recliner and heal. After all the mucking about the NHS gave you just brilliant that you are sorted at last.

    Be well, VERY soft >:D<
  • So I take it that your wife is coming to pick you up and take you home at 2pm today? I hope that's what you meant.

    I hope your recliner is comfortable for you. Some have found it difficult to get comfortable in after lumbar surgery, but I added a couple of pillows to the back to I don't sit back so far and it works well for me. It's still my "station" and I still have my rolling table next to it. That whole thing was supposed to be temporary after my ACDF, but two years later, it's still there and still my place.

    Let us know how you get on at home. Know that it's possible you'll feel a bit worse before you feel better, but it will get better. And once you discover that the pain you're feeling is just the surgery pain, not pre-op pain, it feels even better.

    I'm anxious to hear how your recovery goes along the way and we'll be here for ya through it all.

    Take care, Scott.
  • I was hoping to head home today but it seems I'm going to be here til Tuesday when my transport is free.
    My wound is weeping so they want me here over the weekend.
  • Oh scott !! That's a shame. Hope your wound sorts its self out soon. Apart from that how are you doing ??
  • Thanks for all the best wishes.
    I came home last night. I was meant to be getting and ambulance home but they couldn't get me one until Wednesday at 4:00pm.
    I rang my mate and he picked me up in my car last night at 8:15pm.
    The 1½ hour journey home was surprisingly good. I was meant to stop every 20-30 minutes but it was bloody freezing so I said just drive me straight home.
    I've got 20+ staples that resemble a zipper in my lower back and I have to get them removed by the local nurse on Monday 30th Novemeber.
    I'm amazed at how quickly things appeared to have moved along.
    Operation Tuesday 1:00pm.
    Walking small amounts Wednesday.
    Home Monday.

  • Hi everyone,
    I was just wondering how all the November Op' people were getting on.
    I had my L4/5 fusion done on November 16th and as I couldn't stand being home alone and bored stiff I was driving 2 weeks post op'.I had my 19 staples removed after 15 days which made everything seem easier.
    It's now 4 weeks/4 days post op' and I'm still on the same pain meds as I was on before surgery.The pain I'm experiencing is a totally different pain than before which I think is a good sign.
    I'm still getting severe stomach pains when I wake up in the morning but my doctor says that's more to do with the cocktail of medication I've put into my body these past few years and when I do take my morning meds the pain disappears.

    How's everyone else doing?
    We've just had a new snow flurry here which makes the prospect of trying to go out and get some exercise a bit of a non starter.A fall in the snow now would probably finish me off !!
  • HI everyone,
    I was just wondering how the November surgery people were recovering.
    I had my L4/5 fusion done on November 16th so around 7 weeks post op at he moment.
    I'm still on pain meds and saw one of my surgeons team last week. I explained that I was still on 40mgs oxycodone(oxycontin) twice a day and that I expected to be better than I am.
    He said it's not surprising that I'm still in pain as I have had two lots of back surgery in 9 months so the trauma involved was considerable.

    To put my mind at ease he sent me for another x ray and confirmed that everything is looking good so the outlook is pretty good hopefully.

    On closer inspection I've realised that the pain I'm getting is different and probably associated with the drilling,hammering and screwing-rather than pressure on the disc.

    Anyway. . . enough about me.
    How are you guys ?
  • LizLiz Posts: 7,832
    Hi Scott

    Thank you for the update, it is good that the surgeon arranged the xray for you, now you know what is going on, and reassured things are looking good so far.

    Liz, Spine-health Moderator

    Spinal stenosis since 1995
    Lumber decompression surgery S1 L5-L3[1996]
    Cervical stenosis, so far avoided surgery
  • I'm so glad you posted. You had posted an update before and I forgot to reply.

    Thanks for posting again and giving us another update. I'm not surprised either that you're still in pain and needing pain meds. Seven weeks is really still very early in recovery for such a severe surgery and I expect it'll be a while before you feel good. I also remember when I realized my pain was surgery pain and not the previous back pain that I had before hand.

    Today is my one year anniversary of my TLIF and I'm doing good as far as my lumbar goes. I'm having additional problems above my fusion, but nothing to do about it but take meds, maybe some PT and strong anti-inflammatories.

    Anyway, it's great to hear from you and I'm glad you're keeping in touch and keeping us updated.

    Take care, Scott.
  • Glad you're doing better, and I hope that sooner or later your stomach pains will be a thing of the past.
  • I saw some action on previous threads that I'd posted on so I thought I'd post an update.
    Following my 360°fusion L4/5 on November 16th 2010 I thought things were moving along ok and then I eventually got my first PT appointment for January 18th 2011.
    The trouble is it seems to be aggravating things and giving me some wicked pain but slightly higher up my spine.
    I'm still taking oxycodone(oxycontin) 40mgs twice a day,diclofenac-sodium 50mgs also twice daily and omeprazole 20mgs in the morning to allegedley protect my stomach from the effects of the NSAIDs.
    If I have my PT in the morning I often need to lie down for a few hours in the afternoon.
    I've got another appointment today at noon and I'm going to ask for a 2nd opinion as my PT guy is a student and a nice lad but my problems aren't exactly 'textbook' or straight forward.
  • Howdy Scott,

    Was wondering where you went too! Welcome back! Sorry you're hurting, and of course hoping this is part of our 'growing pains' of post op. Keep following doctors orders, and try not to overdue. *HUGZ*

    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
  • Thanks for your best wishes Brenda.
    Have you noticed the viscious circle with the medications ?

    Oxycontin/oxycodone for the pain.
    NSAID's for the swelling.
    Omeprazole to stop the NSAID's eating away at your stomach.........

    and senokot(senna) cos the combination of the other 3 stop you going.
  • I had to stop by to say "Hey" and how glad I am to hear an update from you.

    I agree that PT is difficult and if you feel better trying a more "seasoned" professional, then go for it. I loved my PT guy. If I went in and told him I was having more pain that day so please be more careful with me, he'd notice right away that I had a misalignment in my hips and worked on that. Yeah, it was painful but I came out of it better. He was very gentle when needed, but on my good days, really had me do a lot of work. PT post-op is almost always painful, so I too hope this is just part of the cycle. But having someone you trust manipulating your body is very important. (By the way, in the last few days of my PT, he taught me how to swing a golf club so I wouldn't hurt my back and could play six months out from surgery. That idea came from my surgeon and he did a good job of teaching me my new swing.)

    I understand the cycle of meds, although I don't have anything to protect my stomach. I'm on Norco, though, so not much APAP. I'm back on anti-inflams though, due to problems above my cervical fusion and lidoderm patches for topical pain relief, in addition to muscle relaxants of course. I like Peri-Colace or MiraLAX as they're really smooth and seem to work well. But whatever works for you, stay on it.

    Take care Scott and I hope things start settling down for ya. Thanks for posting your update and keep us posted on the PT.

  • Well I had my PT and explained my issues and my PT student was brilliant.He said he'd try and loosen things up for me and ask one of the Senior PT's to come and have a chat.
    They both explained that it's a viscious circle of treatment balanced with varying amounts of pain.
    They've suggested I increase my pain meds to a point where I'm getting the relief I need and the ability to do some necessary therapy aswell.
    Otherwise my posture will change for the worse as my body tries to compensate for my pain and have a knock on effect further up my spine.
    I'm actually seeing a different PT next Friday as mine has to return to University for a week and he's looking to see if other therapists think I'll possibly benefit from some hydrotherapy.
    Time will tell.
  • Hi Scott, I had a 360 fusion on October 6, 2010. It's been a long recovery, longer than what I thought it would take. My biggest issues after surgery, besides the obvious pain, was the stiffness and tightness in my legs, and lots of burning in my feet. I statred therapy about 4 weeks ago and I'm doing hydrotherapy once a week and doing land therapy once a week. The hydrotherapy is great if you're having a hard time standing and having balance problems. I'm still having lots of nerve pain but my balance and agility are so much better now. I highly recommend hydrotherapy.Good Luck and I hope you feel better soon! Tina
  • Hi fellow Spineys,
    I just thought I'd nip in to offer a quick update.
    I was doing normal physiotherapy which seemed to make things worse(pain wise I mean) so I've been doing hydrotherapy now for 3 weeks.
    This seems like alot but it's hardly anything.The sessions last about ½ hour that's all and it's only been once a week.
    After each session I've had to drive home(which is fine) but it's the same old story-on comes the pain if I stay standing so I have to lie down for ½ hour or so.
    Starting this week they've agreed to up my therapy to twice a week so I went on Tuesday afternoon for about ¾ hour and I have another session on Friday afternoon.
    Fingers crossed that things will improve.The physio lady is concentrating on my upper back to try and loosen things up slowly as everything is knotted up like a handkerchief.It's amazing really when you consider all my surgery and problems are in L4/5 but due to bad posture over the past few years my whole spine has suffered.
    It's going to be a long haul I think.

    Anyway,I hope everyone I've talked to on here over the past two years or so are on the road to recovery and I'll catch you soon.
  • Hello fellow Spineys and/or Backeys,

    I'm not religious at all but it feels a bit like they do it in films on the tv.
    Forgive me father for I have sinned. . . it's been .... since my last confession.

    For me it's been quite some time since my last post,in fact it may well be 5 or 6 months.
    I wish I could say that's because everything's great and I've been getting on with my life but that's not the case.

    Since my previous post(listed above) my physiotherapist decided that she couldn't do anymore for me so suggested a referral to 'The Pain Management Team' in the same hospital.
    That was June this year.
    Here in the UK the Health Care system is somewhat different from the US.
    In the town we live in I have a doctor who is known as my G.P(General Practitioner) and everyone has one.
    If you have issues that he/she can't treat you get referred to a Specialist in the local hospital.
    In the hospital they have the physio who I've mentioned and he/she will have to write to my G.P and my Surgeon(who happens to be the equivalent of out of State 68 miles away in a different hospital and therefore governed by different practices.
    I asked my G.P if he would follow up and refer me to the Pain Management Team only to be told that he didn't want to do that in case he undermined my surgeon who may have other plans for me.
    I have tried telephoning my surgeon via his secretary and e-mailing and have had no replies from either.
    I'm currently on quite large doses of oxycontin and pregabalin and my body is becoming accustomed to them so I have to keep increasing the dosages to get the same level of pain relief.


    Please excuse the rant. I just needed to get that off my chest.
  • i am sorry to hear that you are not any better after your operation .i am having my fusion this dec {i don't hold much hope out for it to be honest with you} but its not my post .i thought that you were doing well ? have you considered the acticare TENS/TSE machine .they are very good ..like you i too take large amounts of oxycontin/oxynorm .it downheartening to go through an operation or a few operations and still be in pain {i can see that by the time you posted this post ..you are having problems with sleep too.} again i can relate to this as since my last op i have only slept for 2 hours a night ..i hope that you can get sorted out
    tony {UK}
    1997 laminectomy
    2007 repeat laminectomy and discectomy L4/L5
    2011 ALIF {L4/L5/S1}
    2012 ? bowel problems .still under investigation
    2014 bladder operation may 19th 2014
  • Hi Tony,
    I thought I was doing ok and the hydrotherapy really helped.
    It was when they took me out of the pool and tried the normal physio when I really started to struggle.
    I've tried TENS machines in the past and found very little relief even on the maximum settings.
    It's only recently I've started to have trouble sleeping again as I think I need to 'up' my dose again.
    You'd think that you wouldn't need any meds at night and I wish that was the case but alas it's not.
    The stress and associated money worries don't help when it comes to trying to sleep.

    Anyway,best of luck with your fusion in December.

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