I am new to this chat but after reading some of the comments I felt I need to talk to people with the same problems. I have severe degenerated disc in the neck and lower back. Dr says I dont even have a disc in one of the lower back. i have seen several specialists. I have tried everything to help me including injections, chiropractor, medicine, etc. As of today several drs have told me they do not reccomend surgery. They say that it will make the other areas of my back work more causing more problems, I am on some very high medicine which seems to at least help me get up, walk, and shop. I have gotten depressed which doesnt seem to help the matter either. I have pain, stiffness, throbbing, etc in my neck and lower back. i kekep thinking there is more wrong than just no disc, or narrowing of the vertebra. I have lost alot of my strength and movement. Well I will write later. Thanks for listening and if you have any suggestions for me pls write it on here.