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22 yrs old need opinion and help please..Different Doctors Different Diagnosis

DigitalismDDigitalism Posts: 8
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:48 AM in Chronic Pain
Thank you for viewing my post. I appreciate any advice or experience that you guys may share.

I am a 22yr. old and have chronic back pain and recently leg pain. I have seen many different doctors including physical medicine doctors, back surgery specialists,anesthesiologists and been in a chronic back pain special program. I am currently in physical therapy and have tried chiropractic, acupuncture, tens and massage therapy with no relief.

I have lower back pain and upper back pain with pain radiating down the right buttock all the way down the back leg to the bottom of my foot. According to the doctors I have seen I have a slightly pinched nerve on L4-L5 and Degenerative Disc Disease appearing in between L4-L5. The spine surgeon specialist(s) that I have seen say that back surgery will not help and is not an option.

I currently am on fentanyl 50mcg patch every two days and oxycodone 5mg 3x a day. I also take meloxicam for inflammation.

Any information on what could be causing all this pain or what may help me would be extremely helpful. Thank you everyone and I pray that all of you feel better.


  • Hiya and welcome to the site. You have done the right thing in getting more than one opinion, but seems they agree surgery wont help, hopefully it will fix itself,, maybe it is small, I know, small, but still can cause much pain. Have you asked them about this, why wont surgery help, will it fix on its own ?

    Again, welcome to the site, and hope you get answers to your questions
  • I went to kaiser permanente in san diego and talked to my regular physician and was having to visit him very often for pain. It started about three years ago gradually and I thought I was just sore for regular activity but then it started to gradually get worst and then I went to my doctor about it because regular OTC medication wasn't doing anything for the pain I was feeling.

    Then I was sent to the physical medicine/rehabilitation pain medicine specialist and couldn't determine the root cause of my pain.

    It was determined that I have a 10 degree curvature scoliosis and also have kyphosis. I just found out today from the specialist in phoenix, az at a placed called EDITED that I have DDD in l4-l5.

    Thank you for your posts, I appreciate everything!

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  • They want me to get off my pain medications and I have gone through that before and withdrawal was absolutely horrible. However, once I went off my meds they had to put me back on them immediately because of how much pain I was in. I'm sure many of you have gone through this and I would like some input of what happened in your cases.

    Thanks guys.
  • Keep trying other opinions.
    If it helps, I got 7 opinions before my 2nd back surgery b/c surgery is a slippery slope with backs.

    Your diagnosis is not the same as mine so i can't suggest other options but I can recommend you see a mixture of surgeons.

    Neurosurgeon that specializes in the lower spine
    Fellow ship trained Orthopedic spine specialist.

    Try not to 'give them' what the other doctor has said. Tell them you are looking for help because you don't want to be on pain meds indefinitely. Ask them what they would do if they were in this situation. Ask them what they would do if you were 40 or 50 years old.

    I can agree that lower back does take time and patience to feel better. You need to adjust your life a bit to avoid bending, twisting, lifting. You need to keep your core muscles strong. Walking is good but other exercises like running and biking may put too much strain on your back.

    Surgery is not reversable which is why, at 20, they may not want to go there just yet.

    I hope this helps get you started.
  • Thank you bubblegum and DNice for your responses they are greatly appreciated!

    DNice in your experience was the neurosurgeon the one who told you the most about your condition and what they could do to help?

    One of my doctors would also like me to stop taking fentanyl again. However, I went through this before and it was absolute hell as I imagine most of you know. My psychiatrist and doctor wanted to ween me off the fentanyl and taper down the opioids to see if opioid addiction could be causing the pain. This wasn't the case and a month off these and I would in very intense pain with minimal options for pain relief due to meds be taken any.

    Any suggestions on anything that has helped either prescribed or not prescribed that helped with withdrawal?

    Thank you all
  • Digitalism...I saw a variety of orthospine and neurosurgeons. Each area of the country is different. Both are equally qualified to operate on the back. The reason I chose my neurosurgeon is because his approach most closely aligned with my personality.

    What does that mean?
    He was very conservative in his approach and with surgery, that is what I wanted. But, he was not afraid to suggest things. The reason I chose him was because he was able to explain 3-4 options for my specific condition from most conservative to least conservative. He would then ask me what I was thinking and how I felt about the options. I would ask more questions about each. Then he would ask what I thought? I told him I had an opinion but wanted to know what he was recommending for my situation. he would tell me. Oddly, it agreed or was one step more conservative (i.e. do nothing vs. revision surgery) than what I thought.

    What I loved? He could explain WHY he was recommending the approach. He could also explain why other doctors might want to go more aggressive. But he would tell me why his approach was recommended and settled my fears about doing more damage the longer I tried more conservative treatments. He knew nerves. He knew nerves are unpredictable and he knew that technology is progressing all the time. He generally wanted to be sure I was comfortable with the plan.

    That's right, a plan.
    We had a plan of what we would try now, in 2 months, and post 2 months....I felt we didn't just try to 'fix' the problem...we had a plan to fix the problem so it wasn't trial and error. It was very well thought out.

    He was also able to speak to experimental type surgeries (well, by US standards) and why he would/would not want to use them.

    As for withdrawel, I cannot help. I was paranoid to become addicted so really was cautious about how much I took. I admit, I would find myself crying and in bed more than I would be functioning at work but it worked for me.

    I do have a friend that did go into a 30 day program to help get off. I would strongly suggest you work with a trained physician on coming off pain/prescription meds...they know how to reduce you properly.

    I wish you the best.

    You might also want to try specialists if you are in the USA. There are several spine instituations in the USA that I can't list here but are pretty well known.

    Let me know if you have other questions.
  • one more thing about my surgeon.
    He always makes me aware of medication available (such as Lyrica and Neurontin) but he doesn't push them on me. He makes sure I know they exist and tells me if I cannot handle the pain or whatever, to call him to talk to him about them.

    He also tells me that he isn't encouraging me to take things but wants me to know that options are available. As such, I feel he is encouraging me to do my homework on the side effects.
  • The best thing for withdrawal is to not go through it all at once. You should taper very slowly off of any meds.

    This is something your doctor should be able to help you with. They have access to taper plans.

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