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JulieAJJulieA Posts: 1,420
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:50 AM in Upper Back Pain, Thoracic
Hey friends,

I have started experiencing sharp pains into my groin and down the back of my legs- my feet seem to have started going numb. Not all the way numb like my hands do, but definately there is a change in the normal sensation (feeling like lead weights). I am trying to figure out if this is lumbar or thoracic.

I was wondering if any of the T-spine people have this? It isn't the sciatic pain that I used to have. It is different. Sharp shooting, more inside the leg rather than down the back of the leg- it takes my breath away. It is worse when I have to sit upright for long periods. The leg pain started several weeks back and has gotten progressively worse (hit a maximum last night at my daughters volleyball practice), but since the arm problems have also gotten worse I have been keeping this on the back burner :(

I almost feel like a hypocondriac- I am embarrassed about being in pain and hate bringing it up- Thank Goodness for this place "No Judgement Zone".

I am still having the radiating upper back pain that has grown over much of my upper back to just above my waist band, and the circular pain around my upper rib cage. As well as the arm/hand/& neck pain.

My fatigue level is up again as well- it could be the last med change.

Any input is greatley appreciated,

Thanks :)



  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,853
    but since I have had problems from T2 down to T8, with several of them herniated, I can tell you that I never experienced the problem/pain/discomfort you described.

    All of my T-disc pain was in the mid-to-upper back and lower neck.

    Is there anything you did recently that would make you think that you might have T-disc problems?

    How long has this pain been bothering you?
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • Ron,

    I have multiple t disc bulges & herniations multiple levels from t4-t12- 3 very bad ones t7, t10, t12 ( significant stenosis/ had the mri and the ct myelogram) surgery is on the table just trying to put it off as long as I can while I deal the new neck problem.


  • Howdy Julie,

    Have you looked at a Dermatome map? I have issues in my legs (L2/3 nerve roots), but on occasion, I too get numbness in my feet - 3 middle toes both feet, but last MRI showed L2/3/4... My thoracic is T8/9/10 and all the issues from those levels are around my ribs thus far.

    When I looked at the Dermatome for my own toes, it showed L5 to be the culprit, but no medical testing to see if I have more changes down there. I am hoping to know more in March. Any chance you can get with your spine specialist to let him know of these changes to see if it warrants further testing? Sorry to hear you are feeling this. Please let us know how it goes. Oh, as to being a hypochondriac, from what I've seen of your postings, I highly doubt it! *HUGZ*

    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
  • Julie,

    Not sure about the end side of the leg pain, but I can tell you I have more and more numbness issues with my feet. But you are correct it is not the same numbness that is associated with the sciatic. It is definitely brought on by sitting. The other day I had a meeting with my attorney and on the way home the numbness was so bad I had to pull over walk around and finally ended up finishing my drive barefoot. Mind you it was only about 15 degrees here, but I was more nervous about feeling the pedals. My physiatrist told me to try using a pillow just at my knees to raise my knee higher than my hips to see if it helps. I also used my tens unit to land one of my leads on the hip socket itself and then make my x from there. The numbness does go away, just when it is on it is on. But it is a very painful numbness the kind like when you get a extremity to cold and it is cold painful and numb. I will add that I do have bi-lateral tarsel tunnel. But I don't think this is part of that. Have you by chance noticed your shoes feel any different like there is something wrong with them? I only ask as I have a pronating issue, but not sure what is causing it.

    I know exactly what you mean about feeling like a hypocondriac and it is no fun at all. My personal rule is if it last for more than 7 days or comes up more frequently then I let the doctors know of that condition. But in your case I think it sounds as though it is worth a mention to your doctor.
  • I have mentioned to my NS that I was having problems occationally and he thought it was myelopathy from my Thoracic before- I will bring it up again next visit. I just hope it is from the T-spine and not new Lumbar stuff. I really don't think I can take any more "new" issues. After my CT Meylogram he asked how my lower back was feeling since that showed a serious problem at t11/12. Just this strange new nerve like pain on the inside of the legs has me scared. Maybe it is just the new snow storm that came in yesterday?

    I think when I am in pain in multiple places on my body- my brain only registers the worst pain and when that one starts to feel better it tells itself there is pain elsewhere and then it starts registering in that spot- and so on... Like an elecrical cord with several shorts in it. Fix one and the next short interupts the charge.... It is an endless battle.

    My shoes feel okay- but the feet just feel like stubbs inside the shoes. Not sure if that makes any sense?

    Thanks People :)


  • Yeah, the dermatome map will tell you what happens if you have pressure on the exiting nerves, but cord pressure (or myelopathy) feels different. At least my experience was that as the pressure on my cord increased, I had more of those sort of deep, odd pains and discomforts, and definitely issues with numbness (my left leg still isn't back to normal).

    Do you have central canal stenosis due to the herniations in your T-spine?

    Any numbness needs to be brought up. And I totally know what you mean regarding feeling like a hypochondriac. I felt like my left leg was "off" for quite a while before the strength difference became noticeable to my doctor, and my reflexes never went away. I totally felt like I was imagining it half the time!
  • Thanks HappyHBmom,

    I do have central canal stenosis significant in the thoracic as well as foraminal stenosis in the cervical. I will call on Monday but have an appointment so see the NS again in a few weeks.

    I guess I need to start a new pain journal now that it is January and we are 3 weeks in already. I hate to feel like I am obsessing about this stuff. I just wish I could move on with my life :(

    I appreciate all of the support :)

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