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Back Pain

meg101mmeg101 Posts: 31
edited 06/11/2012 - 7:54 AM in Lower Back Pain
Hi!
My name is Meg and I am 19yrs old soon to be 20. I have a horrible back my L4/5 is herniated that its really close to pressing onthe right nerve,and i have mild stenosis and mild scoliosis in my lower back and i can't walk for more than 30min or sit for more than an hour without me being in ALOT of pain!!! the pain goes down my butt and legs, and I am in physical therapy and it doesn't seem to help. My doc told me that my back is older than me, he said this type of back problem should be in someone who is in there 30's and im only 19. I am so depressed because I cant do anything without my back hurting! Am I to young to get surgery? I have herd of a disectomy (not sure if i am spelling that right) my back has gotton worse since 1yr ago.
I'm 24 years old, I have had back problems since I was 17...

June 6th 2012 (I was 20 years old) On my L4/5 I got a Posterior Lumbar Interbody Fusion (PLIF) with 4 pedicle screws, 2 rods, and 2 cages.
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  • I also have Grade 1 retrolisthesis. multilevel spondylolishesis and spondyiosis, I have no idea what those are. They are all on my lower back.
    I'm 24 years old, I have had back problems since I was 17...

    June 6th 2012 (I was 20 years old) On my L4/5 I got a Posterior Lumbar Interbody Fusion (PLIF) with 4 pedicle screws, 2 rods, and 2 cages.
  • I'm a different animal thanks to crashing a helicopter, but (see signature) a fellow backie pending surgery. Age, yours...is young sure, but if your function starts to get bad, it might not be a choice.

    I can't stand more than 5 minutes, and as of a year ago, have to use a cane for walks, otherwise the weak legs and pain take over! What you might want to do is get a couple of opinions or more.

    Sadly, regardless of age, once you fuse pat of your spine, your WHOLE spine is actually affect! The dynamics and loading changes, to which the spine was not designed for! Also too, depending on what is going on with the disk - fusion is not always called for. Stability is the key.

    Please let us know how it goes, and what you do. Welcome to Spine Health!!! Sorry you are going through all this. I am young too...almost 49 (G)

    Brenda
    PCTF C4 - T2, Laminectomies C5, C6 & C7. Severe Palsy left arm/hand.
  • You sound like me at 22. I herniated my L4/L5 at university and found I had slight scoliosis. During the surgery to correct it (when i was 24), the doc discovered I had stenosis and did a decompression at both levels. The surgery I had then was a lumbar laminectomy, but that was 1992, and I'm sure there are better surgeries today. My acute pain was relieved and I was OK for about 12 years, then went downhill. But still, that was 12 years I didn't have to see a pain doc! Hopefully you'll find even longer lasting relief.

    Good luck!
  • Welcome!! Have you had an xray or MRI?? I had pain and weakness in my right leg and in my back and numbness in my right big toe. It was caused by a vertebrae slipping forward. I also have stenosis and scoliosis (and a bunch of other things!!). I had a laminectomy first on l4/L5 then a 360 fusion with instrumentation. Meaning they went in from both the front and back and put in screws and a bone graft. It cured the problem of the pain in my back and weakness in my legs. I went to a spine specialist.

    I have since had more fusions. All from being knocked unconscious but a snowboarder.

    Do see a spine specialist and get an MRI.

    Good luck.

    L4/L5 laminectomy, L4/L5 360 fusion with instrumentation, L1 to L5 fusion, L5/S1 fusion w/ disc replacement, left and right SI joints fused.
  • Yes i have seen an othro doctor and i did get an MRI last month. I have weakness in both my legs, and numbness in my right foot and my big toe.
    I'm 24 years old, I have had back problems since I was 17...

    June 6th 2012 (I was 20 years old) On my L4/5 I got a Posterior Lumbar Interbody Fusion (PLIF) with 4 pedicle screws, 2 rods, and 2 cages.
  • Hi! No it is not usual for someone our age to have neck/back issues but it is what it is! Don't be scared of surgery. Try the conservative methods first but after that make an appointment with a good neurosurgeon (or ortho if you prefer)

    I just had a discectomy and fusion in my neck and I am 24. My problems started when I was 18.
    ACDF C4-5 June 23rd, 2011

    Another surgery in the near future. I am 26 years old.

    Current Meds- Norco 7.5/325, Cymbalta 60mg, Gabapentin, Adderall 20mg
  • Im getting an epidural injection in my lower back sometime next week! i have had 3 of them last year and they didn't seem to help, i hope this one will help! :)
    I'm 24 years old, I have had back problems since I was 17...

    June 6th 2012 (I was 20 years old) On my L4/5 I got a Posterior Lumbar Interbody Fusion (PLIF) with 4 pedicle screws, 2 rods, and 2 cages.
  • I agree, I have had many injections that didn't seem to work. I just had both my SI joints done, never had them there before and I am hoping that this time will the magic one. Good luck with your injections next week.

    L4/L5 laminectomy, L4/L5 360 fusion with instrumentation, L1 to L5 fusion, L5/S1 fusion w/ disc replacement, left and right SI joints fused.
  • HI Meg
    Sorry to hear that your spine problems are starting so young...I was 32 when mine started, and the dr. said the same thing...you're too young for this to be developing...well, guess what....it's gonna do what it's gonna do, regardless of age.
    Anyway, I also had injections and they didn't work for me either... What did your recent MRI say? Maybe you should see another dr to get a 2nd opinion... I would, at your age, definately look into this further... Good luck and let us know how you make out!
    Frannie
  • i had slip disc surgery for L2 disc around 9 years ago.till now i dont have any problems.now i am planing for marriage.is there any problems for marriage life? is there any possibility of repeatable of pains?
    i am folowing yoga and back excercises.please help me regarding this.
  • Congratulations on your upcoming marriage. As always check with your doc. I have had 3 fusions, am fused L1-S1 and the usual response is when you feel like it. I have taken my time but have never had any issues. Good luck!!

    L4/L5 laminectomy, L4/L5 360 fusion with instrumentation, L1 to L5 fusion, L5/S1 fusion w/ disc replacement, left and right SI joints fused.
  • July 17th im getting the epidural steriod injection in my lowerback! kinda nervous...
    I'm 24 years old, I have had back problems since I was 17...

    June 6th 2012 (I was 20 years old) On my L4/5 I got a Posterior Lumbar Interbody Fusion (PLIF) with 4 pedicle screws, 2 rods, and 2 cages.
  • I am getting a cortisone injection in both my SI joints on wed. Had some about a week and a half ago but the dye didn't go in very far (scar tissue and calcification). This will be the last one. If it doesn't work its radio frequency ablation. And like Meg101 I have had a lot cortisone and never much luck.
    How did it go Meg101??

    L4/L5 laminectomy, L4/L5 360 fusion with instrumentation, L1 to L5 fusion, L5/S1 fusion w/ disc replacement, left and right SI joints fused.
  • 19 is young but as everyone here has said, "it is what it is". You have some of the best people on the web, not just on this board but one the web, here giving you god comments and recommendations. Why? Because they've been there and done that and it's relatively impossible for anyone who hasn't been there done that to even begin to understand what you and we have gone through and in many cases continue to go through. We're also in the chat room so know that you're always welcome there for "coffee and conversation".

    My original injury was also a crushing one from a really hard full-down auto-rotation helo accident back in the 1970s. But it wasn't until I had a "train wreck" with one of our horses in March of last year that surgery became the only option available so I had a 4-level TLIF that was completely successful. But the big thing here is that, between the time I was 20 and 53, I was under constant alternative treatments for the pain, many of which were successful to some degree but the body changes and as it does, the treatments also have to change as well. There have been alot of advancements in both surgical and non-surgical treatments so in many ways, you're better off today than I was 40 years ago. Much of what doctors prescribe today to try and help you deal with your condition didn't even exist years ago. The bottom line is not to give up. There are literally dozens of medicines out there that doctors use today, individually and in combination with other medicines, to treat your pain via injections and alot of other things like SCSs or Spinal Cord Stimulators and much of the time it's just a question of finding the right combination. I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, "Oh great. I'm going to spend my life in pain while the doctors try and find the right combination." and I guess maybe you're right. I felt the same way many times over the 30+ years I fought my pain but the fact of the matter is, like jani and kali and aviatrix said, "it is what it is." My doctors found things that helped for a few months or a year or so and then they quit helping so the doctors tried new fixes. It's a life cycle you're going to have to deal with like we all are. Even surgery, which always should be a last resort, is no guarantee. It worked for me, thank God, so far and I was back at work in 2 months and back in a saddle in 4-months. But even that may change in time but until it does, I'm sitting right and exercising right and still having my life disrupted byt trying to do everything "right". It's a pain but changing my lifestyle to meet what life dealt me is just the way it is for me. Now I don't want you to think I'm being harsh or uncaring because I'm not. It's just that sometimes the best medicine is the truth and what I've found from all these people here is that you won't get any BS here. What you will get is sympathy and empathy and the truth as we know it and sometimes that means ya just gotta hang in there because there isn't really any other option. Your best weapon against your condition is education. It'll help you better deal with the situation and, most of all, it'll help you either trust your doctor or know enough to find another one. Trust in your doctor is SOOOO important; knowing that he or she is doing everything they can to help you. Staying up looking into the latest research for his or her patients; knowing that his or her day doesn't end with the last patient they see but goes way past it trying to find a fix for you that'll also apply to their other patients. None of us here, that I know of anyway, are doctors so we can't give you medical advice. What we can do is help you get all the knowledge you can so you can be an active participant in dealing with your situation. Know that there are alot of medications out there. Ask your doctor about them. Ask him about the different injection combinations and injection sites that are available. Ask him about SCSs and other things, therapies, oral medications and such. Ask him or her about RFA or radio frequency ablation as jani said. Ask him or her if he or she thinks inversion tables would be appropriate for you. Alot of times sitting at your desk the "right" way helps. Even sleeping a certain way on the "right" kind of mattress. Sorry to go on and on but like I said, education is your best weapon. You know your body best and when a person puts hours into picking a paint color or spends days on Angie's List finding a contractor, your own health should warrant all the time you can find and there are alot of people here to talk to. Good luck and we'll do all we can to help.
  • I am 19 years old.faceing the same problem
  • Whats wrong with your back Shyman159? How did you hurt your back?
    I'm 24 years old, I have had back problems since I was 17...

    June 6th 2012 (I was 20 years old) On my L4/5 I got a Posterior Lumbar Interbody Fusion (PLIF) with 4 pedicle screws, 2 rods, and 2 cages.
  • I had my epidrual cortisone shot today... :( and when i said July 17th that was a typo... i ment July 27th. But anyway im in alot of pain after the shot and my legs are weak, and i can't hardly walk. Is this normal?
    I'm 24 years old, I have had back problems since I was 17...

    June 6th 2012 (I was 20 years old) On my L4/5 I got a Posterior Lumbar Interbody Fusion (PLIF) with 4 pedicle screws, 2 rods, and 2 cages.
  • Weakness in the legs is not uncommon after an epi. Not everyone gets it, but I did from time to time. Your recovery rate from the procedure may vary, but I was usually back to normal in 2-3 days, and improvement went up from there. It partially depends on what they injected. Sometimes it's a straight steroid, sometimes it's the steroid mixed with an analgesic.

    I hope you recover quickly and well, and you see great improvement from the procedure! :)))
  • I have found that there is a lot of discomfort from the needles going in. I assume it was done under the florouscope and dye was injected first. This discomfort usually lasts a few days. Your doctor should have given you a list of possible side effects. I have never had leg weakness but we all react differently. Call your doc if you are concerned.

    L4/L5 laminectomy, L4/L5 360 fusion with instrumentation, L1 to L5 fusion, L5/S1 fusion w/ disc replacement, left and right SI joints fused.
  • My mother facing that back pain problem A doctor suggest us that don't use injections for such pain just take some exercise its the best treatment for such type of pain.
  • I'm having really bad back pain after my Epidural Cortisone Injection and my legs feel weak and my right foot goes numb sometimes... I got the injection a week ago... Is this normal?
    I'm 24 years old, I have had back problems since I was 17...

    June 6th 2012 (I was 20 years old) On my L4/5 I got a Posterior Lumbar Interbody Fusion (PLIF) with 4 pedicle screws, 2 rods, and 2 cages.
  • I'm having really bad back pain after my Epidural Cortisone Injection and my legs feel weak and my right foot goes numb sometimes... I got the injection a week ago... Is this normal?
    I'm 24 years old, I have had back problems since I was 17...

    June 6th 2012 (I was 20 years old) On my L4/5 I got a Posterior Lumbar Interbody Fusion (PLIF) with 4 pedicle screws, 2 rods, and 2 cages.
  • I had more back pain and weakness after my ESI up to 2 weeks after but not foot numbness because I already have foot numbness so it wasn't made worse. I have an abnormal EMG already due to compression of a nerve at L4-L5 which causes foot numbness. You may want to call the Dr or his Nurse to see if this can happen. Is the leg pain less and more numbness or you never had leg pain and have numbness now instead?

    I hope you get some relief from your injection but any weakness or new numbness you should speak with your PM Dr. or Family Dr. to see if he wants to order any tests. Have you had an EMG/nerve test for the numbness before in your foot or is this a new symptom? I hope you can speak with your Dr. soon. Take care. Charry
    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
  • I am having some leg pain and my right foot goes numb while im driving and when im walking or even laying down, and when im sleeping my legs feel weak. No i have not had an EMG yet. I am calling my doctor tomorrow though, im suposse to get an MRI soon.
    I'm 24 years old, I have had back problems since I was 17...

    June 6th 2012 (I was 20 years old) On my L4/5 I got a Posterior Lumbar Interbody Fusion (PLIF) with 4 pedicle screws, 2 rods, and 2 cages.
  • I'm suposse to go to a Pain Doctor, this Thursday. He might do some more Cortisone shots in my Low Back. I'm too young to get surgery so my ortho doc sent me to this pain doc. The shots this pain doc might do are Nerve blocks. Do they hurt? and what other shots could he do?
    I'm 24 years old, I have had back problems since I was 17...

    June 6th 2012 (I was 20 years old) On my L4/5 I got a Posterior Lumbar Interbody Fusion (PLIF) with 4 pedicle screws, 2 rods, and 2 cages.
  • When I got my epidural(ESI) I always got facet joint injections and SI and Nerve block in the hip so about 8-10 injections each visit. Do they give sedation for your injections. I never had sedation for my injections but find they are a little uncomfortable just for a second but found with the ESI just a little pressure.

    Put ice when you get home for a few times a day to prevent any pain at the injection sites. I always took it easy for 3 days after mine so the steroid stays right in that area to take down the inflammation.d

    Have you seen a Sports Medicine Dr. yet (Psychiatry Dr.)He can help assess you and see if you need further tests or treatment. I just went to a branch of Cleveland Clinic and getting tests done by a Sports Dr. there.

    I hope you get some relief with your injections. Take care. Charry

    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
  • It's a little different for everyone, but my experience is the procedure does not hurt *while it's happening*. I always had mild sedation due to anxiety, and of course they numb the area with injections before beginning. After the procedure I tended to get worse, and after 3-4 days it was all good. You might ask the doc for pain meds if you're out. About half the time I got an epidural with the blocks as that produced better effects for me.

    I hope all goes well with your procedure! Good luck :)))
  • Sports med doctor is physiatrist, not psychiatrist
  • You're right! My bad, I meant Physiatrist not Psychiatrist. I used the spelling corrector but clicked the wrong name.. Charry

    For some reason I can't edit that post..I blame it on this new laptop!
    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
  • I have had many injections, some with sedation, some without.It depends on the site and how much scar tissue there is. For me with lots of scar tissue from previous surgeries i prefer sedation as it relaxes me more and allows the doc to get the injection in the correct place.

    When I first started having injections with no sedation it was just a feeling of pressure for a few minutes.

    L4/L5 laminectomy, L4/L5 360 fusion with instrumentation, L1 to L5 fusion, L5/S1 fusion w/ disc replacement, left and right SI joints fused.
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