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Improper treatments from your doctor

edited 06/11/2012 - 8:56 AM in Water Cooler
I would like to say hello,
My name is Selena, i am a severe chronic pain sufferer. I would like to hear any storie's about improper treatments of any kind, weather it be medical treatments, or abuse of any kind, emotional damage that you may have sufferd do to the direct treatment or your doctor)s.
I have searched all over the internet and cannot find many article's on the matter, or subject.
I was abused by three doctors, and now am a severe post traumatic stress sufferer, it compunds my medical issue's greatly, and effects the medical conditions i have, and makes it impossibale to see any medical person with out suffering from pure fear that is now taking over my life as much as the severe cronic pain has, i wish to get better in every sence of the word,so that i can focus my presous time on trying to cope with all of this medical conditions and severe pain, i hope to also help anyone who has experienced the same or simular issue's such as mine, im seeking help from my fellow spinney's so that i may get past this huge debilataing PTSD =( @) =(( X( :jawdrop: :?? :OO ~X( ~X( #:S :S :| :?? ~X( :/ :B .
ps, i could not find a topic this fit under as this subject is not covered here it seems,
thank you all for your help.i greatly apreciate all the wonderful letters i have already recieved ! keep them coming, feel free to post here in the forum, if anyone wishes to have my email please send a request in the messege area of the website, please be sure to add to the buddy list also so that we can continue the great work! "we are all getting better together".


  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,839
    As Tony posted, ABUSE is a very big and serious term. It could lead to civil actions.

    Once you indicated and documented that you were abused by several doctors, you have opened yourself to many different scenarios.
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • welcome to spine health .please define
    abuse .as its a very strong word to use and you wont be able to mention by name any doctors as the spine health police {the mods} will jump on you .if you mean that you have had some bad experiences with people from the medical profession ,that i can understand i too had a bad experience with a consultant anaesthetist at his pain clinic .where he accused me of being nothing but a drug user and to suck up the pain and take it like a man .my wife was with me and we both walked out and went to See my family doctor he apologized and now he looks after me with my pain problems .{the consultant has been sacked for many similar events like i encountered } by the way within a week of seeing the consultant i was rushed in hospital for emergency surgey...i have found in the last 16 years a big change with medical staff they tend to be more technical and less caring now .you are just a lump of meat to most of them a number on a chart .it was not like that years ago nurses cared and people were looked after .consultants commanded respect and gave it back.even now as i wait nervously for my operation in dec i am having a fusion ALIF. i found the treatment in the hospital very harsh and i am not looking forward to spending the best part of two weeks in there .i think its just the way the world is now...unfortunately ...{PS please dont mention any consultants or hospitals its agains the rules and may cause you more problems .i am just telling you so your post wont get pulled }
    tony {UK}
    1997 laminectomy
    2007 repeat laminectomy and discectomy L4/L5
    2011 ALIF {L4/L5/S1}
    2012 ? bowel problems .still under investigation
    2014 bladder operation may 19th 2014
  • I can maybe understand being abused or the posibly not treated well by 1 dr. Abused and not treated as you felt you should have been treated is very far from being the same. And 3 dr,s as you mention what are the chances 3 dr,s caused abuse. I dont totaly understand the purpose of this post only for those reasons .

    Dr,s dont abuse patients they try to help patients. If there is a condition that causes a fear of dr,s which i think there is such a condition, i could be wrong. Then the trauma is already there posibly and has nothing to do with the dr.

    I hope you are seeing someone to help you with the trauma you are suffering from.

    Best wishes,
    Flexicore ADR 2004 resulting nerve damage l4l5 Fusion 2006 same level, 2009 hardware removal with lami !
    2012 scs implant ,
  • i am very offend, and wil leave this site, i have opions on this matter by legal and medical specialists, i thought this was a place to help people , not make them feel worse, and no i had no such issues b4 hand, i do think specialists know what they are doing, i did not come here to be judged and diagnosed, im apaled and shocked this is suposed to be a profentional medical website, to inform people and to help them get better. not to have ppl make you feel like you have no clue ,,,i wil post this just this way typos and all,in to much phy pain to correct, how ignorant of some one here sugest a diognoses,, im so upset i cannot fin thisi would like to say thnk you for ur reply, , i am aware of all legalities, i meantion no names, or hosptials, and when i use the word abuse ,this is a legal abservation by other medical profontionals,ect,,I WILL NOT GO INTO DETAIL, AS I have asked members here to add me TO ADD ME SO WE MAY HAVE PRIV CONVERSATION ON THE SUBJECT, ,IM AWARE OF THE SITES RULES, AND NO,,, THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MEDICATIONS, YOU SEEM TO JUMP TO CONCLUSTIONS, WHEN THIS IS NOT WHAT I HAVE CLEARLY ASK FROM OTHERS, IM SORRY YOU HAD SUCH A TERRIBLE THING ACCUSED OF YOU.I i have doctors opinons and diagnoses that i have been clearly'' with out questionabused,just to mention one issue this doctor caused, not to mention phy injury, those will be all the details i will give out , im sorry, i am sure others understand here the deligations of my post, abused , and i now suffer severrly !!! from.as i have not gone into detail about any thing for obvious reasons, im, i did read all the rules and regulations of posting from the website,again thnx you for your concern, i do now feel very offended, as im very sencitive about and what ppl say to me, i thought this was a site to help ppl get better, im offend'd and hurt, by this reply, i know what words mean and wld never accuse anyone of something if they did nnot do it , this is not a feeling or a tthought, i suffer greatly to the state of incopasatation from the abuse, when you have to ask a doctor to step away from your personal space three times, its not just an experience, i will not go into further deatail,,im sure that you have well intentions, and i thnk you for ur story, mine was much more severe, and for legal reasons this doctor made bad choises and included others in her actions, this is being taken care of legaly, so im sure im aware of what i should and should not be doing saying or posting on the net, my only intentions to post here is to hear other stories to help me get past the psychological damage this person)s, has done to me, iv always been a very strong wmn, and i will say this tore me down , and i cant get past this, its detrimentily stop me in life, so if i can find comfort in knowing there are others with simular experiences like me to help me move on that is what i will do, while i thnk you again,,,,, i see no need for you to inform me of posting names when you clearly see no names here,, im not going to let this make me feel hurt or sad, and hopless,as this PTSD has made me feel this way about everything, im very emotional and sencitive, i will try not to let that cloud my emotions in ur reply, this is a site to get well, not worse, i have every right to ask for help from fellow suffers,as you do ,and the free will to speak within this websites rules, and i have clearly done so,, my experience was not as light as your ,and with you having no details can assume or imply with out knowing anything,,
  • I am going to take a shot in the dark here!

    After a posting a person has to be able to handle any responses and opinions from others on the mater they posted about. As opinions will vary from person to person its just an opinion and can in no way be considered offensive unless its a direct attack on any person.

    Not having the full facts of your legal issues of Dr,s Abuse and just based on your original post of abuse by not 1 but 3 dr,s will triger opinions and questions in many.

    I understand the posibility if in a legal litigation of posibly not wanting to get in to details of this legal mater and keep it private.

    But once you post it on the forum. And it being of such serious in nature of abuse by 3 drs, You have to be prepaired and accept the opinions it may bring about on its own merit without being offended.

    If you have found suport from members that you can discuss this in private pm as you said and it helps to resolve your issues and helps you in your recovery then thats great.
    As you said you can only discuss the details in email and private pm.

    And do to the fact further details cant be sorted out on the forum do to your privacy legal litigation . I can only wish you luck and wish you all the best in your recovery!
    Flexicore ADR 2004 resulting nerve damage l4l5 Fusion 2006 same level, 2009 hardware removal with lami !
    2012 scs implant ,
  • Hi Not so Sunshiny;

    You said that someone here gave their own diagnoses for you? I didn't see that in any of the responses. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Yes, this is a forum for support, and to help people heal and grow. I think it was more that because there was a lack of information in your original post, it's hard to comment as we don't know what the severity of abuse was that you went through, or what kind of abuse, be it physical, verbal, emotional. But it's understandable that if legal procedures are ongoing that you can't disclose that kind of information. I think that the posters were just trying to figure out where you were coming from, so they could find a way to appropriately respond to you.

    On a forum like this, on the net, it's very hard to interpret people's words, as we don't know what emotional state they are in, both for original posters and posters who are responding. It's also hard for people to respond when there is a lack of information, so people respond with however they interpret what the original poster has written. As posters, we also have to try to interpret what others have written in response to us. And when we are in a compromised emotional turmoil, be it from our pain or from external factors, we can sometimes mis-interpret someone's good intentions. I know I've done that myself in the past for whatever reason.

    Tony was not accusing you of anything with regards to medication, if that's how you took it, which I can only assume by what you wrote in all caps, he was simply telling you how he was treated by a certain doctor.

    Sometimes what people say though, is not the answer we want to hear, or have a different opinion, so we have to take the good with the bad, take what you want out of it, and ignore the rest, but have an open mind as the answer you might not want to hear could be the right one.

    Having said all of that, I hope that you do stay here and interact with everyone, we welcome everyone and try to help where and when we can. I hope that you do find a resolution to your legal problems, and that it works out in your favour.
    APROUD CANADIANveteranButNOTa doctor, my thoughts are my own
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,839
    Your initial thread made it impossible to understand your situation except for the fact that you indicated you were abused. That being said, the follow posts were only trying to address that statement, no on accused you of any wrong doings, just information for you to digest.

    You came back guns firing at everyone for the way we treated you. No one did anything wrong, we asked questions and we made some statements. We still did not have any details.

    It is entirely up to you to determine what you next course of action will be. As Alex indicated and Kelly documented, this is a site to help individuals, it is a site that for many is their only lifeline or support group.

    The forum rules and or FAQ lay out many items that need to be reviewed before posting. One of them states how you should provide enough detail information so that we can make some form of educated responses (though, never medical advice)

    This site is for you as well as everyone to come to looking for advice and comfort at times. Whats happen in the past is the past and we can all move on from here.

    You just need to do what is right and comfortable for you.
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • i agree with others that abuse is a strong word. to be abused by 3 doctors to the point that it is taking over your life sounds horrific, but what may constitue abuse by you or any one person generally, may not be what constitute abuse for others.

    just my two cents - if i were involved in litigation, then i would be careful about what you write because this could come back to bite you in the butt. for example, you said the doctors' behaviour caused the PTSD, or that's what i am interpreting it to be. i would think that for this to hold water then you would be expected not to have had any anxiety issues that were treated prior to this point. i just don't want to see you, or anyone who is also a chronic pain suffer to give lawyers or insurance companies foder. thats all.

    i hope you can work through the traumas inflicted by these physicians. as i said, it's hard enough to cope with chronic pain day after day after day without having to worry about insurance issues, financial situations, family strains, etc.
  • Thank you for a very professional intelligent reply, as i had logged in today to ask to have my posts removed, and i apologize for the last 2 posting, i am sure no one could understand them at all, i have always had an open mind, i enjoy intellectual conversations, and thoroughly enjoy them, i would just like to say i felt attacked, be it the PTSD, though is relevant i feel, it did trigger greatly and that was a reflection in my last posting, as was some of my medical conditions, i have not been well enough to do my profile with my med conditions, as i am in congestive heart failure again, and deal with many med prob very serous ones im very young, 43,i will fill out when able it may help others understand some things about me, its very hard to use my brain now and an to the brain, meaning i have a very rare disease called leriche's, and a medical treatment has caused brain damage, i cannot go into it further, i wish that i could , i guess my point it, well i apear to be whatever it may be, im very intellectual, and its very hard for me to cope with how my brain functions now, in spelling , cognitive ect,,
    my only attempt was to hear others stories as we all know it helps one another to move on if one can talk to others who understand ect, as i am having great difficulty in moving on, i was so happy to find this website, as there is tons of great info on it, and the vid are wonderful as its easier to watch vids than to read most times, my health issues compound very simple things on bad days,, espc my brain functions,
    i would like to say thnk you again ,for the hope you have given me, i was ready to give up in my search for a site that could offer me some sense of normality and acceptance with out judgements, today is a hard and bad day, it hard for me to think so i can get my point across clearly and precise, in response to the caps part in my posts, it was just how my brain functioned at that moment of being upset , i did not mean to make it appear as if i were yelling or that it was in ref to the med post, it was not, i just had caps on, it was a heart felt sorry that he had been accused of such a horrific thing, as i am sure if some ones pain relief is threatened it could mean our lives as none of us can live in this kind of pain and then to have to fear losing it ect, as there is such a huge problem with med for pain relief today, it makes us all fear the worst! i wold like to say in case no one knows of this, they just discovered that there is a genetic gene found connected with chronic pain, google it, as i cant rem details most times:(, so threes great hope in this new finding, iv not looked to see if its on here yet, i hope it can help some one here, ok i tire very easy now, i had a massive heart attack and it did a lot of damage to my heart and has caused serous issues, one being blood backing up into my lungs, i can go on, i will try to fin the rest of my replies and thoughts later, i hope you guys can understand the gist of this, as when ur brain doesn't work right any more its not as simple as using the spell check :(, tc everyone, and again ty for you reply, it made me feel hopful again, ur post is the only one iv read thus far, since my last posting, again, im sorry if i came acros in any way other than kind, im a very compassionate person , and have always helped others to great extents, iv never had to ask for help, but i now do, and it sucks, so ty for the hope, this is a wonderful informative site, one of the best i have found, ty
  • Scientists have known about the HCN2 gene, found in nerve endings, for several years. But they didn't fully understand it's role in regulating pain until now.
    The research in the journal Science finds that removing or blocking this gene eliminates neuropathic pain without affecting normal pain sensation.
    This was the latest news i heard on tv about finaly posibly some of there research might pay off for us who suffer from this nerve pain. I just hope this helps them find a beter drug in my lifetime to have a beter life.
    Sadly its not often enough we hear anything about chronic pain and how it should be recognized on television. Maybe if the news ran more stories we would not have so much issues of others not understanding this pain is real and you cant fake pain like this.
    Flexicore ADR 2004 resulting nerve damage l4l5 Fusion 2006 same level, 2009 hardware removal with lami !
    2012 scs implant ,
  • i have mentioned that this is a legal matter, and i will reiterate that i only asked for stories about any situations to the matter, STORYS only, and in private im form, if you question me, i cannot help you as i cant go into detail, im not one to accuse anyone of something, ever, its not my nature, i feel terrible for the out come of this matter, but its important and has to be done so it never happens to others, i cannot go into details, i simply stated facts as this legal issue is a hands down decision and is only a mater of red tape at this point, i was only looking for support in stories from others, my severe chronic pain and health issues make me very delicate and emotional now, i did state that one doctor involved other doctors, if u research it it will explain why others are legally responsible for what they do as far as treatment,and what its outcome can be, i cant explain any further,but this is the reason it involves more than one doctor, i wld like to just say, im not some out of touch person who is just going around accusing others of something just because thy made me feel bad or that it was a bad experience, doctors and other medical professionals and legal advice have documented what i am saying,and wld like to add that its doctors that told me this has happend to me and that i cannot just let it go, and that its my responcabily to do as i am now doing,im sure my team of doctors who i see now cannot surly be wrong in this matter or would inform me to take legal action ect, and what has happened to me medically ect from their choices, i cant go on here trying to explain any further, for one its very draining, i just simply asked for others stories to help me cope and know there is hope of recovery in some of the issues,PTSD, the other issues will never go away, i never had any issue other than anxiety when in pain to long, and most definitely did not have these specific health issues i do now, and they greatly effect my physical life worse, i feel like i have to defend myself, and i should not have to do that here,
  • ty, i recieved this info from a link on facebook, i totaly agree, this pain is very real and tourus ! its a scary thing when we can be in so much pain and the ones who care for us dont understand its severity, its like having a cheif fix our car,it may get done only to the level of their understanding how severe it is, saddly, so this is wonderful news it makes me very hopful in removing some of the pain, :)
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,839
    We can not allow you to pose any questions or ask input from other members. That is something you would need to do on your own outside of this forum.

    On the other hand, if you are seeking help, discussions, topics, etc regarding your medical situation and others, than that is perfectly fine.

    That is what we are here for
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • MetalneckMetalneck Island of Misfit toysPosts: 1,364
    "Send Lawyers, Drugs, and Money!! .... Lord please get me out of here !!!

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