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See if you can figure my back issue out....

knoxtnhornkknoxtnhorn Posts: 6
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:57 AM in Lower Back Pain
I posted on this forum about 2 months ago about a back injury I had. I pulled a washing machine up at 100 foot hill because I was too stubborn to ask for help. My back pain started pretty quickly.

Fast forward. I ended up at an orthopedist who diagnosed a herniated disk (L-4/L-5 I think) and scheduled an MRI and out patient procedure which, I believe, was the cortisone shot to the spine.

The day before the procedure, I called it off because I would have had to pay a hefty deductible AND my back pain was manageable.

I went back to my regular doc who decided to try an oral steroid regiment. The back pain never went away; however, it did slowly get better.

Here's the thing. I still have some back pain but what I've been having problems with is the dead legs and shooting pain which I believe to be a reflection of pressure on my sciatic nerve. This keeps me up quite a bit at night.

The twist to the story was that, when I decided to forgo the procedure, I went ahead and got my MRI results which indicated nothing was wrong with my back.

Question 1: Will an MRI always find a herniated disk? I cringe at the notion that I almost got a multi-inch needle inserted into my spine though the MRI indicated that a herniated disk my not be the cause.
Question 2: If not a herniated disk, what could be a possible cause?

Thanks in advance.


  • My herniated disc turned into DDD after my back injury and the MRI showed no disc herniation after 15 months from my first one. I've had an epidural with DDD and I had some relief from sciatica. I take Cymbalta which helps the sciatica pain and numbness as well as it's supposed to help with chronic lower back pain. Not saying you have DDD as only your Dr. will be able to help with a diagnosis.

    Have you had flexion/extension x-rays yet? I'm not sure why my second MRI didn't show my herniated disc because I have the same symptoms form when I had the herniated disc at L5-S1. I'm going for another MRI next week. Have you had an EMG/nerve test yet? I found a really good Sports medicine Dr. (physiatrist)who has to know where my sciatica is coming from. I hope you find a good Dr. to help diagnose you. Take care. Charry
    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
  • i have nearly finnish my book so can print this now...........what causes back and many other problems is we carry our weight in our hip flexors .this puts preasure on the l4..l5 area of the spine....hence th problems . you need to release the hamstrings and the qls..and hip flexors.then then strenghen the glutes.ps try to breath into your stomach as keeping this flat when breathing puts tension on the back .when doing core make sure your hip flexors are not dominating!!

  • Knox. The cause can be so many things without having the tests needed you might never know, Injection would of been not just for the pain itself but also to help the dr find the level of the pain,

    So even if mri did not show herniaded disc injection could of still helped, If there was an easy way to find out whats the cause of the pain then we all would of done it without doing painfull injections ourself,

    Nobody here will be able to tell you what is causing your pain because none of us are dr,s, Without tests your guess is about as good as anyone elses here if not beter because you feel it,

    If you dont want to subject yourself to injections and such then all you can do is try every alternative treatment you posibly can to see if you can get yourself beter,

    Pool thearapy along with accupuncture and even chiro, All depends whats causing it, Can disc be leaking and mri aint showing it. Yes thats also posible.

    Good luck and hopefuly you can find something that keeps you out of the surgery aspect of things,
    Flexicore ADR 2004 resulting nerve damage l4l5 Fusion 2006 same level, 2009 hardware removal with lami !
    2012 scs implant ,
  • You wrote a book? Well you can ad it to the other 300,000 other books thats already floating around out there about pulled muscle in the back and so on, muscle imbalance and good posture and bla bla bla bla bla bla bla,

    All these books that talk about such basic crap that is just simple common sense about using good posture and keep your muscle healthy cause you could be suffering from muscle imbalance,

    All that is a no brainer and if a person stays active and works out and has plenty of exercise and eats healthy keeps good posture while doing all this keeps there spine healthy as well,

    This is all simple things that a person learns even if you never read a book, Your dr will tell you and if you have pt they will tell you also,

    If a persons spine issue is as simple as a muscle pull and such then instead of reading a book they need to get off there ass and exercise,

    Lot of the spine injury is whats beyond anything that a book is going to fix, But everyone out there writes a book that claims will cure your back pain as if they knew something nobody else does,

    Only thing they know is how to sell a book and profit from someone elses suffering,
    Maybe if you teach yourself how to live with pain your pain will be gone and life will be so great,

    Only ones life thats going to be great is the seller of the book buying them another home in the bahamas,

    Books can always sound like they can unlock the secret to heath and wealth and some of us are just dumb enough to buy in to it,

    You can find every infomation you need on line now days and no mater how much you read and how much you know it still comes down to the basics of eat healthy, exercise,

    Its much harder for a chronic pain patient to do what a basic person with a muscle pull can do for themself, But no mater same aplies for all of us about exercise and try to over come the pain and stiffness,

    And we dont need a book to tell us that! I find it an insult as most of these books put a spine patient with serious injury in the same catagory as a person who is just too lazy to get off there ass posibly to become active because of a muscle pull,

    And no mater what condition you have the book can cure and unlock your brain because its not realy the injury thats causing the pain, Its an emotional stress thats causing it called. Yo momma wont tell ya to get off yo ass syndrome".

    Lol git-ir-done. Have a nice day all, hi ho hi ho to the ymca i go!
    Flexicore ADR 2004 resulting nerve damage l4l5 Fusion 2006 same level, 2009 hardware removal with lami !
    2012 scs implant ,
  • Hmmm... someone miss their morning coffee, fall off the bed again, or a just a grouchy bas@#$% ? :rollinglaugh:

    Good for you, call these jokers out man. This guy is here just to sell a book. His response is broken English, no grammar, and absolutely useless explanation. If this is an example of his book, it's good for lining your cats litter box...

    To the OP.
    Question 1: - No.
    Question 2: - Several things. Anything that impinges on nerves in your lumbar spine can do it. That would also include hips and so on.
  • Lol yep it was prety early in the morning when i posted the responce, i am at my best early morning hours , lol

    Maybe i should run for president, but i would have to make all my speach in the morning hours, I do specialise in bs enomics,
    Flexicore ADR 2004 resulting nerve damage l4l5 Fusion 2006 same level, 2009 hardware removal with lami !
    2012 scs implant ,
  • You can get terrible sciatica from piriformis spasms. My massage therapist told me about how he had excruciating sciatica pain and went to the ER due to injuring his piriformis muscles from over exertion. Good luck!
    2011 ACDF C5-6 for Spondylosis with Myleopathy
    2012 L4-5 herniated disc and hernated disc at C4/5 2013 Taking Amitriptyline for headaches
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