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Upper back pain, unable to breathe well...need advice.

SMS25SSMS25 Posts: 2
edited 04/15/2014 - 4:46 AM in Upper Back Pain, Thoracic

Hi there,

I just joined because I am a little desperate. I am sure many of you have been in the same position as myself. A little over a year ago, out of the blue, I had intense upper back pain (mainly in my upper left shoulder blade area and spine in between my should blades and a little below) and my breathing was incredibly restricted, as though my lungs couldn't expand enough to completely fill up. I got very scared because I felt like I couldn't get enough air in. I'm a student, so I tend to sit hunched over quite a bit and this of course only made things worse. I have very mild asthma, so I assumed something must be going on with my lungs and went to my doctor. He said my breathing was great, did a breathing test and took a chest x-ray just to be safe. Everything came back clear. He seemed convinced it was stress, but I disagreed.

I hoped things would just clear up on its own, but it's been a year now and the pain is still just as bad. It comes in waves as well, sometimes it's bearable, but uncomfortable and days like today it is unbearable and every breath I take is a struggle. I am constantly flexing my shoulder blades to try and crack something to make it feel better, or having people walk on my back, or laying on a tennis ball etc. It does crack and pop but never feels better. Sometimes I have to crack something because it feels out of place and in order to feel relief it needs to pop out.

After seeing the regular doctor I went to two body workers, a massage therapist and have recently been seeing a chiropractor. Everyone told me how incredibly tight the muscles in my back are. They said this could be restricting my breathing. The chiropractor took x-rays and said that two of my upper discs were rotated and that I no longer have the natural curve in my neck anymore, it actually slightly curves the other way. He also did a test where I would push/pull against him testing the strength of my left vs right arm. My left arm/shoulder was incredibly weak. This is the side I am having the most trouble with. It was actually pretty incredible how weak that side was. This was all somewhat good news because it was the first person who could actually show me evidence of something going on and the symptoms that I was having seemed to be in line with my injury.

So my chiropractor explained to me that it isn't something that is a quick fix and I would need to start off seeing him 3 times a week and that over time my rotated discs would fall back into place. I'm only 25 so he said people my age recover better. He compared it to working out, you can't just be in shape over night and run a marathon. It takes time to get to that point. He also said the popping in my shoulder was because my back wasn't strong enough/where it should be, therefore other things aren't able to function correctly and are compensating. I trusted him and saw him for a couple months. I questioned the process though, when I would come in he would see me for at the most 5 minutes and just crack a few things and send me on my way. For the pain I am in, that just doesn't seem like enough. I thought I was getting better and for a couple weeks my pain was totally gone, for the first time in a year. Unfortunately, like I said before it comes in waves. It came back. I asked him about the process again and questioned it only to be informed and educated since I am not knowledgeable in this area. I have stopped seeing him and plan on getting a second opinion from another chiropractor.

I would really appreciate advice specifically about what my next step should be or if anyone has any idea of what is going on with me? If my chiropractor seemed to be on the right track or if I am correct in seeking a second opinion. I really appreciate thank you.

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  • If the pain stops you breathing it can be quite dangerous. Have you had your ribs checked It can be a symptom of thoracic spine damage if you can't breathe properly. It could also be an infection if it comes in waves.

    I know MRI's are expensive in the States but you need to go to your GP and get referred to a specialist. There is obviously something wrong. Also try and do some research yourself on your symptoms. I had to do most of my own research even though my MRI's clearly show the problem. Maybe go to a physiotherapist instead of a chiro, or an oesteopath can tell whether it's muscle damage or your spine. You really need to do something now before it gets worse as it already sounds like it's turning into chronic pain. And tell your GP it's effecting your breathing because that is really important in the diagnosis.
  • Thanks for the response. I'm glad someone else finally sees there is something wrong. After seeing quite a few professionals and talking to family and friends, no one seems to think it is that serious. I think I put a pretty good face on through the pain. I feel like there is definitely something that the doctors are missing. I really want to find a doctor/specialist who will make it their mission to fix this. Up to now, I feel like my concerns have been somewhat dismissed. I have done research online etc but there are so many possibilities it's a bit overwhelming.

    I will take your advice and try a specialist. It has become chronic pain and is interfering with my life so I am willing to do anything. Thanks again.
    thoracic spine pain said:
    If the pain stops you breathing it can be quite dangerous. Have you had your ribs checked It can be a symptom of thoracic spine damage if you can't breathe properly. It could also be an infection if it comes in waves.

    I know MRI's are expensive in the States but you need to go to your GP and get referred to a specialist. There is obviously something wrong. Also try and do some research yourself on your symptoms. I had to do most of my own research even though my MRI's clearly show the problem. Maybe go to a physiotherapist instead of a chiro, or an oesteopath can tell whether it's muscle damage or your spine. You really need to do something now before it gets worse as it already sounds like it's turning into chronic pain. And tell your GP it's effecting your breathing because that is really important in the diagnosis.
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,575
    edited 05/17/2013 - 5:22 AM
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    I agree with thoracic spine health, get a second opinion. Start with your PCP and go from there. Personally, if there is even a remote possibility about having some disc related issues, I would NOT be going to a chiropractor. Many of them are totally trained in the muscular and skeleton infrastructures of our bodies, but understand the spinal cord, the nerve root, etc,
    thats a different story

    The key right now is getting your problem properly identified so that action plans can be put into place. Until that happens, all we could give you are suggestions based on our own experiences, but we have no idea what is actually going on with you.
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  • You are not alone!!!!! January this year, I was in bed lying down on my side, then i felt a burst/tight feeling in my left shoulder blade, since this happen I can't take a deep breath.. This has affected my life, I can not enjoy my life anymore and I want to give up... The doctors gave me muscle relaxing tablets, they don't help.. I also got an MRI done showing my spine is not good.. The doctor thinks it could be anxiety.. The thing is, I felt this happen to me, I felt a burst/tight feeling in my left shoulder blade and noone can help me... Good Luck and I feel your pain !!!!!!
  • sandisandi Posts: 6,556
    edited 06/24/2013 - 5:57 PM
    I am sure that you will find your time on Spine-Health very rewarding. This site is a powerful and integrated system that is dynamic and continues to grow.
    Here are just some of the highlights:

    - Detailed medical libraries of Articles and Videos that address almost every Spinal Conditions and Treatment

    - The Wellness section contains articles, tips and videos to help patients after surgery and also to help people avoid surgery.

    - Under the Resource tab, there is a section Doctor Advice Health Center which can be invaluable.

    - As a bonus, Spine-Health provides these patient forums. Here is where you can meet thousands of other people who understand and can relate to your situation. You will soon become part of the Spiney family who provide comfort and the advantages of a Support System. You are now part of this family that is approximately 20,600 International members and growing daily.

    - It is very important to understand the Forum Rules to make sure all of your posts do not violate any of the rules.

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  • Thank you for the nice welcome, most appreciated..
  • Get them to look at your thoracic spine. Look at a dermatone chart - there is one on this site and lots of others on the web to see where the pain radiates from your thoracic. It can effect breathing - tell your doctor - read the intractable pain manual on this site.

    You need to say what showed up in the MRI, which level looked bad, then people who have had the same thing can help you.
  • I have a thoracic spine injury and it keeps me from taking a full breath at times. I have moderate asthma as well.

    I'm in pain management and seeing a chiropractor 2X a week. I also ice my neck and back in the evenings and use a home TENS device, which is a big help while I have it on. You may want to see another chiropractor, the one I see came highly recommmended and he got my spine & neck back in line. Ask about back-strengthing exercises which may help keeping your back in line.

    LT
    Diagnosis: Thoracic facet syndrome & cervical and thoracic radiculopathy from car accident trauma.
  • Could anyone please help me and tell me what my x-ray and mri scans mean..

    X-Ray
    Technique:
    Volumetic scans have been performed through the thoracic spine with reconstructed scans through the intervertebral discs as well sagittal and 3D reconstructions provided via a work station.
    Report:
    The bony spinal canal is of adequate dimension. The thecal sac and spinal cord have a normal appearance as far as they can be seen. No focal disc protrusions are seen. There is a mild end plate change and schmorl's node formation in the mid to lower thoracic spine but no compression fractures are seen. Disc space heights are preserved. Neural exit foraminae are patent bilaterally. No other focal bony abnormalities are detected. No abnormalities are seen in the paraspinal soft tissues.
    Conclusion;
    Mild end plate change and schmorl's node formation but no evidence of a compression fracture nor of a focal disc protrusion.

    MRI
    Technique:
    Multiplanar T1 and T2 weighted images were acquired of the thoracic spine with sagittal T2 weighted images also performed of the cervical and lumbar spine.
    Report:
    The alignment is within normal limits. No abnormality is demonstrated in the marrow. Minor loss of signal intensity is seen in the discs from T6/7 to T10/11 with minimal end plate irregularity but without end plate destruction or marrow oedema.
    Further minor signal loss with preservation of the disc space height is seen in the discs from L2/3 to L5/S1. There is no focal disc protrusion, epidural mass, cord compression or intrinsic cord abnormallty int he throracic spine and no paraspinal soft tissue mass is seen.
    Conclusion:
    Disc degeneration is demonstrated in the mid/lower thoracic disc without focal dosc protrusion, cord compression or intrinsic cord abnormality. No paraspinal soft tissue mass is seen.

    Thank you for reading this and helping me.. what do I need to do to fix this problem? does anything show here why its hard to take a deep breath?

    Thank you :)
  • malammala Posts: 38
    edited 04/15/2014 - 4:53 AM

    Hi SMS25,

    EDITED to remove link. Please do not post links on the Spine Health forums.

    I am still finding it hard myself, I just wish I could breath like I used to..

    Hope you are well.

  • This holds true not only for MRI reports but any other diagnostic test that your doctor or team of doctors performed on you.
    There are no medical professionals on this site that are qualified to accurately interpret any of those diagnostic tests. That should be done only by your doctor and not even the technician who may have run the test.

    There could be many members on this site that have been through so many of these tests that they are pretty accurate, but you dont want to hold your life in the hands of a non-professional.

    Take a look at this analogy. Think if it in terms of reading any diagnostic report. The actual images that come back are much harder

    The Problem
    You have a 5 year old car that has been giving some trouble recently. Your brought it down to the local service center for
    them to run diagnostic tests.

    The Report comes back

    MILD - Ok, so there is a problem, but I think it can be fixed by adding some fuel cleaner and changing the engine oil. Easy thing to do, will not cost much. However, if you ignore it, down the line, this mild problem could
    developed into a bigger problem.

    MODERATE - Yes, we found a few parts that definitely show signs of wear and tear. I think if we bring it in to the shop, we should be able to do sum tune up therapy, and will probably have to add some engine and transmission medications. If you dont do this, I can almost be sure that this will deteriorate further. Maybe not in a few months, but down the line. Know do you want to be driving at night in a snow blizzard in a town you do not know. All of
    a sudden your car stops dead in its tracks, wont start or anything. Here is where you hit yourself in the head and say
    I should have listened, I should have taken care of it back then

    SEVERE - This is not good. I dont think any band aid approach is going to solve the problem.
    Sure, you can continue driving, but I am afraid if you do, you might have some permanent damage. I suggest that we remove the engine and see if we can rebuild it, if not, we are going to have to do a total replacement


    When it comes to cars, I think most people can see the picture... Well, its really not that different when it comes to diagnostic tests.

    The degree of severity as outlined above, is the same when it comes to MRI readings. Just look at those words and relate them to your situation.
  • Just an idea which worked for me. Go to a physiotherapist and get them to have a look at the disks up from T6/7 to T10/11.

    That is T5 T8 and T9. Although your thoracic showed up as mild in the MRI sometimes the disks above try and compensate for the ones below. Have a look at the dermatone chart Sandi posted and it tells you where the damaged disks cause pain.

    It has just started working for me as mine was out for 7 years but if you get to it early you might be able to get them in the right place. Sometimes things don't show up in MRI's, my T4 was trying to compensate for the massive damage to my T5 but the T4 did not show in the MRI. It was only when someone touched me and saw it was way out of place and they put it back in it eased the pain. MRI's are taken why you are lying down and your spine sits in a different place when you are lying down to when you are standing upright.
  • thoracic spine pain said:
    Just an idea which worked for me. Go to a physiotherapist and get them to have a look at the disks up from T6/7 to T10/11.

    That is T5 T8 and T9. Although your thoracic showed up as mild in the MRI sometimes the disks above try and compensate for the ones below. Have a look at the dermatone chart Sandi posted and it tells you where the damaged disks cause pain.

    It has just started working for me as mine was out for 7 years but if you get to it early you might be able to get them in the right place. Sometimes things don't show up in MRI's, my T4 was trying to compensate for the massive damage to my T5 but the T4 did not show in the MRI. It was only when someone touched me and saw it was way out of place and they put it back in it eased the pain. MRI's are taken why you are lying down and your spine sits in a different place when you are lying down to when you are standing upright.
    Thank you so much for your help.. I will ask my Chiro next time I see him. Did u suffer breathing problems?
  • thoracic spine painthoracic spine pain Posts: 566
    edited 07/01/2013 - 1:58 PM
    I have not had breathing problems thank heavens. My injury was through trauma. I had a serious motorbike accident and damaged a lot of things, including broken ribs and massive shoulder injuries, which I thought was causing most of the pain but it was actually my thoracic spine.

    Everything else healed except from the very start I had excruciating back pain from my thoracic spine that never went away. There are a lot of people who do suffer breathing problems from their thoracic spine, if you read some of the posts.

    I now tell people that I have damaged my central nervous system which they seem to understand better than back pain. It's easier for them to realise the pain when you let them know it is your central nervous system that is damaged.

    Please make the chiro gently touch you. I prefer a physio and have found a really good one IN Australia. With pain you are only supposed to feel the pain which is the stongest at the time. All I could ever feel was my spine pain even though a had a really smashed up ankle, shoulders, ended up with a frozen shoulder which people believe is painful - I didn't even feel mine because of my back.

    Hope you find some help - I'm happyI realised the upper vertabrae try to compensate for the ones below - it seems to happen when people have surgery as well, from the posts I have ben reading.. You body does naturally try and heal itself and other muscles take over to protect the damaged. areas. It is worth a try, not promising anything but get them to have a look.

    Have a less pain day.
  • malammala Posts: 38
    edited 07/02/2013 - 11:48 AM
    I feel so sorry for you, what you have suffered, you are lucky you have no breathing problems.
    I did go to Physio, I felt he did nothing for me. When I went to my Chiro, everywhere he touched my body was so sore to touch. I don't know why I am so sore, I can put up with being sore but breathing problems has destryed my life.. All I can do is be positive and hope one day I can breath like I used to..

    Thanks again for your advice :)
  • It took years for my pain to localise so I could feel where it was coming from. Please just get him to check the other disks and give you a massage. If you move your ribs towards your spine, you have to move them kinda upwards cause thats the way they sit, you may feel your ribs are out of alignment, I have one shoulder and my vertabrae taped in place at the moment and it is helping me to be able to do things. You can feel your own ribs from the side to see whether they are in place.
  • thoracic spine pain said:
    It took years for my pain to localise so I could feel where it was coming from. Please just get him to check the other disks and give you a massage. If you move your ribs towards your spine, you have to move them kinda upwards cause thats the way they sit, you may feel your ribs are out of alignment, I have one shoulder and my vertabrae taped in place at the moment and it is helping me to be able to do things. You can feel your own ribs from the side to see whether they are in place.
    They're still narrowing down the source of my thoracic pain. Possibly as high as T1/C7, giving credence to my radiculopathy diagnosis. My ribs have been looked at and determined to be in place, which is good. My injury was from a 3-car accident and I sustained a pretty good whiplash injury. I'm also fortunate to have my neck and spine back into proper alignment, but the damage has been done to the discs.

    Are you using something like K-Tape? I will look into that on my own.

    LT
    Diagnosis: Thoracic facet syndrome & cervical and thoracic radiculopathy from car accident trauma.
  • thoracic spine painthoracic spine pain Posts: 566
    edited 07/09/2013 - 3:10 PM
    The physio tapes me, she tapes my shoulder and ribs back into place as well as my T4. Not only reminds me not to twist but keeps it in place long enough that I can put it back in myself with a small rubber ball, most times, when it pops back out.

    Trouble is it has been out so long my lovely spasming muscles wanna keep pulling it back out. Mine was a wedge fracture on the right side so every time I bend to the left, putting dishes in the dishwasher etc, it pops back out so now have to be careful to bend to the right so it stays in.

    Also my damage is to the vertabrae, crushed thoracic bone, not the disks so don't know if it would work for you, When you are in pain anything is worth a try. I'd been to so many specialists and none of them picked this up, they just looked at my 80% damaged T5.

    When you have an MRI you are lying down so everything looks like its in place, what a joke. Get them to examine you while you are standing up and they might see a different picture.
  • Does anyone know what happened to SMS25, I would love to know if he got better with his back problem and breathing, my breathing is still a problem everyday.
  • SMS25 said:
    Thanks for the response. I'm glad someone else finally sees there is something wrong. After seeing quite a few professionals and talking to family and friends, no one seems to think it is that serious. I think I put a pretty good face on through the pain. I feel like there is definitely something that the doctors are missing. I really want to find a doctor/specialist who will make it their mission to fix this. Up to now, I feel like my concerns have been somewhat dismissed. I have done research online etc but there are so many possibilities it's a bit overwhelming.

    I will take your advice and try a specialist. It has become chronic pain and is interfering with my life so I am willing to do anything. Thanks again.

    thoracic spine pain said:
    If the pain stops you breathing it can be quite dangerous. Have you had your ribs checked It can be a symptom of thoracic spine damage if you can't breathe properly. It could also be an infection if it comes in waves.

    I know MRI's are expensive in the States but you need to go to your GP and get referred to a specialist. There is obviously something wrong. Also try and do some research yourself on your symptoms. I had to do most of my own research even though my MRI's clearly show the problem. Maybe go to a physiotherapist instead of a chiro, or an oesteopath can tell whether it's muscle damage or your spine. You really need to do something now before it gets worse as it already sounds like it's turning into chronic pain. And tell your GP it's effecting your breathing because that is really important in the diagnosis.
    Renee Marie Bell
  • edited 04/21/2014 - 7:50 AM
    Hi there,
    I am very concerned with your symptoms...I am hopeful that your will get relief.
    One thing to keep in mind; YOU are your best advocate for yourself, as you know and are well in tune with your symptoms and PAIN!
    Get referred to a Spine Doctor, preferably a Neurologist. Your T-1 to T4, is referred to as your "air door"--Google: Air door Chinese medicine(added 20 April 2014)* add T1 to T4 along with your Google search--I think you may find it most interesting!
    As far as a Chiropractor, the one you seen sounds quackish-see another, I have 3, because I cannot always get in to my regular one.
    Be pro active. I have a great Neuro Surgeon, who when I told him I don't want PT, nor do I want a shot-- since a Doctor's X-ray showed Major Osteoarthritis & bone spurs, I ended up under the knife and had Decompression surgery, called Foraminal Laminectomy. Laymans terms: I had bone spurs (Osteophytes), between my C6 & C7 vertebrae, at the (Neural Foraman) nerve root, it was imbedded with bone spurs. I had Left arm Radiculopathy, pain in my arm which was caused by the bone spurs that irritated the nerve root. Check out the Virtual 3D spine online--it tells what nerve root affects what part of our bodies, even the Organs! It is extremely interesting to me, since my battle begun. I received relief, that PT or a shot, will not fix!
    I am currently seeking a STANDING MRI, which I think would give your Neurologist a better idea as to what the problem is-this gives a truer pathology diagnosis.
    I have scar tissue on my left lung, from getting ran over by a car when I was 13 months old--my ribs were dented in. My 2nd. Chiropractor found that my 3rd. rib is somewhat locked, upon releasing that, I felt it somewhat easier to breath. (remember I said the T1 to T4 is the "air door").
    Narcotics & Motrin don't touch my pain--when a Doctor prescribes these, that is my sign to move to another one!
    I hope this is beneficial to you! Hope to hear from you!
    Best regards!
    Renee Marie Bell
  • I'm currently having this exact same issue. Went to a gp and was referred to a pulmonologist. He diagnosed me with asthma. I'm 24 and I seriously don't believe I have asthma.. The 3 inhalers didn't help. I went back to my gp and tried anxiety meds as my job is very stressful. The majority of these posts make me want to see a neuro surgeon. Has anything changed since your most recent post?
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  • HanniesmomHHanniesmom Posts: 23
    edited 05/03/2014 - 7:35 PM
    I would def. get a second opinion with a spine doc or neurologist.
  • HI ALL,
    Here is my update, I am still suffering with my shoulder blade pain and I still can not breathe, take a deep breath.
    I have been to the chiro and massages, nothing seems to help.
    I have a new pain, server spasm in my left shoulder blade that my left arm loses feeling.
    I have lost quality in my life, I can't go anywhere as I am unable to breath with all my back pain.
    I don't know what else to do..
    I am going to try Platelet Rich Plasma in my back, has anyone done this?
    I also read about Prolotherapy..
    Can anyone tell me what to do to get my breathing back????
    SMS are you better now? what did you do to get better?
    Thankyou..
    Mala
  • Mala

    Is your spine in correct mechanical alignment. Maybe your ribs are out of place - they say it shouldn't happen but with me it did. Is one shoulder higher than the other - are your hips aligned. If your hips are not aligned go to a pedorthist who makes shoes especially for people with spine injuries, they study your gait and build up a shoe to make your hips align. If one part of your body is mechanically wrong it stand to reason it effects the rest of your spine.

    I found a great book on Amazon. It's called A System of Orthopaedic Medicine, 3e Hardcover
    by Ludwig Ombregt MD (Author). It is in medical speak but I'm going to buy it. It says thoracic pain can effect breathing and can cause severe pain. If you look it up on Amazon and type in Thoracic spine pain you can see some pages for free. It also tells you which parts of the spine effect which part of the body, much like a dermatone chart but he writes it up as well. I think this is in the first chapter called What is pain which I downloaded for free.

    His findings are really interesting - he believes in traction and manipulation in certain cases. With traction he say patients can recover in about 3 months. It is obviously a current textbook as it has been reprinted so many times, I'm going to try and get a second hand copy where the supplier will post to Australia.

    From the small bit I have read he says that stretching the spine really helps and that traction helps a lot of people. I am getting out my inversion machine again as I was a bit reticent to use it. I also found some really good McKenzie thoracic stretches on You Tube in the middle of the night when the pain was hell and stretching out my spine with the exercises seemed to work and ease the pain.

    Honestly if you still can't breathe this has been going on for too long and usually Dr's want to find out what is the matter. Have you had a standing or sitting MRI - it does pick up different things - look at You Tube or I can send you the link to the research. Good luck, I hate that you have to do your own research with thoracic and I haven't any idea why the techniques aren't used because they are proven to work and make common sense.

    Have a read - I had to look up some medical terms but this guy has the evidence that proves his theories.
  • Thank you for your reply, I think maybe they are out of place, I have been wearing a posture brace and I feel like I can breathe and I don't feel pain when I wear this brace.. I have had an MRI, I posted on page 1 of this topic.. I am thinking of getting a standing mri of my left shoulder blade.. my chiro told me my shoulders are very rounded...
    I will be looking in to those books, thank you so much for the recommendation..
    would you know if posture brace aligns the posture in place?
    Thanks,
    Mala
  • omg the book is $242
  • Yep it's a medical text book but there are second hand copies in really good condition much cheaper. It is in medical speak so I'll have to look a lot of things up but after $30.000 trying to find out what was wrong - there's an $80 copy in good condition but they don't post to Australia. If you just read the free pages and the intro is free they' re pretty helpful as well.
  • Hi I've been reading your post over and over again and it's EXACTLY the same thing I'm going through right now. I'm 27 years old been going to the chiropractor for a month and a half now. They seem to be more concerned about my neck curve than my breathing issues and the dull pain between my shoulders. I don't know about you but every time I go to see my chiro, he'll place his hands on the dull pain area and crack it and gives me immediate relief. Time to time my labored breathing will come back, causing anxiety which led me to replying to you.

    My question is, have you been getting better? Is there something or someone I should be seeing instead of the chiropractor? This issue is starting to take over my life... Please help me.
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