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Hi, I have been attending to a clinic..been seen by a neurologist, a couple neurosurgeons, anastheists. I have had lower back pain and cervical back pain since the early 90's, diagnosed with DDD... 6 years ago it herniated in one disc, had a laminectomy... past two years back pain has increasingly got worse, had several trigger epiderals.. started falling and saw neurosurgeon at one of the best places in the country (so I believe), they said my back is that of an 80 year old man.. have DDD throughout back, and Stenosis through out.. cervical is causing major problems, low back extreme problems.. they have told me there is nothing they can do that any type of surgery would only make matters worse.. the pain continues to grow.. targert epideral did not work... PT has not worked and I live in really bad pain.. I have thought about ending my life because it is so dibilatating and painful... I have lost my home due to bills (ANd gas costs), having to step down from my job and take a medical retirement (this is in process, have to play paper work game).. now looking at the radiography burning of nerves... I am only 50... I don't seem to have much hope.. as I have seen so many doctors and all say the same, while in ER one time I have 6 doctors looking at me.. had 6 viles of morphine put into me for pain... is there anything.. anything that can help.. I am willing to try anything at this point.... anything to take pain.. I can't sleep from the pain, can't work, can't function hardly at all like a man should with work or anything... what options are there? THis burning of nerves seems my last hope, but the nerve block didn't even seem to help..


  • I'm not an expert on all you have wrong/tried, I'm sure other with more knowledge will respond soon. One thing though, I don't think I read that you've tried a Pain Management Doctor? I think getting the right cocktail of drugs is what gets us all through. Many have mentioned, & I'm learning that ER is not particarly helpful for us, because the amount of drugs we need for relief is more than they are comfortable providing and/ or they think we are addicts trying to score. I would get on the phone ASAP with your insurance & see what coverage you have for a Pain Managent Dr or clinic. Know going in there is no such thing as "pain free " with this, but you can get to a place of tolerable, and you will get there. In the meantime, do some searching around the site for things 'how to sleep ' & see what others in your shoes are doing. Don't give up, you will get better ! Keep us posted! Susan
    We can't always control the cards we are dealt in life, but we can control how we play the hand
  • I had cervical surgery, have DDD,full of arthritis , lumbar issues pain just seems to be a daily problem, but you just learn to live with it. I take 2400 of gabapentin , norco, muscle relaxer, all the other meds, blood pressure, cholesterol ,singular, advair, spiriva, also blood plasma every 4 weeks for infection for primary immune Defiency . Now I can go back on Mobic but afraid since I'm still fusing. I am a female so not the same pressures as a male, but guess what I am seeing pain management for trigger point injection and now a chiropractor. That's against my neuro's opinion but not touching my neck but my back seems to be helping since I am up for trying anything to try to. Stay somewhat functional. Already did the 3 epidurals. So I'm trying to get a handle on what I can do. Pain management docs are very helpful. Do not give up. Keep trying to find something that works. Listen I just turned 60 and I have an 83 year old mother that can run circles me. So jealous but good for her. Keep trying.
  • LizLiz Posts: 7,832
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    Spinal stenosis since 1995
    Lumber decompression surgery S1 L5-L3[1996]
    Cervical stenosis, so far avoided surgery
  • DDD is a common part of the aging process- in most of us, it simply means a drying out of the discs, which occurs naturally as part of the aging process.
    Stenosis is a different issue- depending on the location of the stenosis- which is a narrowing of either the spinal canal or the areas of the spine where the nerve roots exit at each level of the vertebre, and how bad the narrowing is determines what, if anything can be done. It can be very , very mild, moderate and severe or somewhere in between.
    When was the last time that you had any imaging done of your spine?
    Usually, if the stenosis is causing other problems, numbness, difficulty standing or walking, or effecting someones ability to move about, then surgery is considered as part of the options.
    Injections are offered for two reasons, one to determine if there is any relief, and secondly done to try to confirm that a particular area of the spine is in fact, what is causing the pain that the person is complaining of......If there is relief of symptoms, then the doctors may want to try further injections or procedures to see if something other than surgery is an option .
    Radio frequency ablation is done , after a test series of injections to see if relief is felt , to burn the nerve fibers . If it is successful, patients can experience good to excellent pain relief for 6 months or more. This procedure can be repeated over and over as long as it helps when the nerve fibers grow back...usually this is done when they suspect the facet joints may be part of the pain generators in your spine.
    You may want to consult with another board certified spine surgeon- neurosurgeon and orthopedic to see what they feel might be the best option.
    There is a link to the Step by Step Guide to getting treatment for Chronic back pain at the bottom of this post- it might help you to understand the steps better by reading it.
  • Hi....I can somewhat relate to your pain. I have 4 herniated discs, spinal stenosis, lumbar disc disease, and arthritis which keeps getting worse and I am only 28 years old. I had surgery about 6 years on my l3-4 which they did a discectomy and laminectomy. I've epidural injections multiple times, have done PT multuiple times also and nothing seems to be working. I just had done the burning of the nerves. They did the nerve blocks to see if it would help and there was some releif but not a whole lot but insurance approved it so they did the right side of my L1-l2, l3-l4, l4-5, and l5-s1 and then two in half weeks later did the left side which was a few days ago. During the procedure it didn't hurt because I was sedated and don't remember anything but for about a week or almost two I was soooooo sore. The doc said it takes 4 to 6 weeks to heal inside. I'm hoping this helps me a little bit but with the nerve blocks I would say it took about 20percent of the pain away so i'm guessing thats what this will do and it will last 6 to 12 months. So I would say for you to go ahead and try it. Even if it takes only like 10percent of the pain away for 6 months its something atleast to try. Good luck with it! I really hope it helps some if you go through with it!
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