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Canadian Doctors and Pain MEDS

lowangllowang Posts: 1
edited 07/29/2014 - 9:03 PM in Pain Medications
On the west coast of Canada I am a chronic pain sufferer that when a doctor or nurse asked me to rate my pain between 0-10 my answer is always the same. "Your scale is redundant, my pain levels go way above 10. The pain I get in causes me to cry at times it is so bad". This is just to give the reader the kind of pain I suffer from when I get flare ups.

I had a meeting with my doctor this morning with my wife there for support. He reviewed a copy of my CT scan and it shows how screwed up my lower back is, think he would even give me T3s, not a chance. My wife chewed him out and said "This is no way for our family to live. it just does not affect my husband but the entire family". I told my doctor at this point I can't continue to live this way. I truly believe you don't care about my quality of live. He responded by saying no I do car but I don't think short acting T3s is the way to go, he also said he believed using and narcotic is the anwers.

So my only choice now is to get the drugs T3s off the street at a cost of .50 cents each. I sometimes have to use a Fentanyl 100 MG path which I cut in half. The half patch only takes the edge off the pain.

Here in Canada the Pharma-College has clamped down on all the doctors for giving out too may Prescriptions for strong pain killers. What blows me away is they keep coming out with all these new designer pain killers ie:

OxyNeo 20mg - 40mg - 80mg (last I heard this drug was available in the USA at 160mg)
Dilaudid 1mg 2mg 4ng 8mg 12mg 16mg 24mg
Kratom (not yet approved)
2C-E (not yet approved)

This list goes on and on

What is the primary reason for inventing the better pain killer "MONEY" and they won't give us who suffer real pain even a T3 to take the edge off. I am sorry but this is EDIT and has forced pain sufferers like me to seek pain killers on the black market.

Why is so much presciption meds available on the black market, people not in any pain somehow convince the doctor they are and dell these pills at a massive mark up. It is difficult for me to buy to much on the black market with the price of a 100mg Fentanyl patch at $80.00

Thats my rant

Post edited to remove inappropriate language...Liz spine-health moderator.. Please read the Forum rules


  • LizLiz Posts: 7,832

    Liz, Spine-health Moderator

    Spinal stenosis since 1995
    Lumber decompression surgery S1 L5-L3[1996]
    Cervical stenosis, so far avoided surgery
  • In the future I would recommend stating the problem to the doctor and letting him/her decide what medication to use. Typically, where I live if you go in asking for a specific medication you raise the suspicion of being a seeker. Keep in mind that doctors have to try and weed out the truth because of drug addicts that make those of us with real pain suffer due to their lies.

    Why do you want Tylenol #3 for breakthrough pain? It's a relatively mild pain medication. If you are on Fentanyl, I would think a stronger breakthrough drug would be warranted. You may be able to take Naproxen Sodium or Diclofenac. That being said, a good number of PM's are no longer prescribing breakthrough drugs due to new laws restricting what the doctor's can do. If you are purchasing drugs on the street and get caught you can forget about having a PM doctor in your future.

    Several Epidurals, L4-S1 360 ALIF, Numerous Facet Joint Injections, RFA x2
  • In America it's pretty easy to get a second opinion or switch doctors if you're not happy with your care. In England with the National Health service it's much harder. What's it like in Canada?
    Over the years I've seen quite a large number of different specialists & therapists. I've developed a 'blend' of procedures, medications, therapies etc. & have a pretty good idea of what works for me & what doesn't. There's not one thing that really works for me. It's a base of procedures (trigger point shots, RFA etc) & medications (antiinflamatory, muscle relaxant, narcotic etc) with daily stretches & exercises, topical creams (my prescription Ketamine cream is great!), airomatherapy massage oils etc.
    Some of us are lucky. The cause of pain can be diagnosed, treated & that's the end of the story. Chronic pain is different. We need to learn to manage it & function the best we can. I wouldn't of been able to do this without great doctors & specialists. Chasing certain meds & buying off of the street isn't a long term solution for this. I think you need to find a doctor you can trust & work with.
    What has your doctor offered so far? What's your diagnosis, procedures & therapies? I take Opana..one of the new 'designer' drugs. Many people get a tremendous amount of relief from them. Many doctors are pulling back on Tylenol because of liver damage. In England everyone I know has been taken off of antiinflamatories because of the harm they can do. I know it's incredibly confusing & frustrating. That's why it's so important to have a doctor you can trust.
    Osteoarthritis & DDD.
  • but in many areas, including Canada, primary care doctors do not and will not provide long term chronic pain care. I understand that waiting to get in to see a specialist who treats chronic pain is difficult to do, but in the long run, it is your best option, along with seeing a surgeon to see what, if anything can be done surgically to correct the problems in your spine. You don't say what they are, however, if something can be done surgically to relieve the pain, wouldn't that be a better option than choosing to buy drugs off the street?
    In the meantime, perhaps an anti inflammatory medication might help to ease some of the increased pain during flare ups, and getting on the list to see a pain management doctor and surgeon would be a good place to start.
    A word of caution , when you do get into see a pain management doctor, they may require a urine test and if you show positive for drugs of any sort not prescribed to you, you will have a much more difficult time getting treated.
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