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bambi69bbambi69 Posts: 15
edited 09/11/2014 - 8:16 AM in New Member Introductions
I'm a new member and wanted to throw a situation out there for comment or input. As background (briefly), I have had chronic pain for over 20 years. Originally as a result of 2 severe falls in short succession causing nerve damage to my coccyx area and at the present suffer from arthritis, degeneration of the spine, severe spinal stenosis and most recently bone spurs. Out of desperation to be able to gain control of my pain, i had a morphine pump implanted in 2005. My pain continues but has been much more tolerable and I was able to work full time until 2011. I do take 30 MG of oral I morphine for breakthrough pain and have been doing so well that in recent months I had spoken to my dr about cutting back on my oral meds. In June I began suffering from awful pain between my shoulder blades in the center of my spine, coming from the fact I am forced to sleep in a recliner due to my inability to lay down. Undoubtedlu, the slumping in the chair has caused this. I had complained about the problem between my shoulders on several occasions to my pain management PA but no suggestions were offered. Finally since it was becoming so painful I decided to see a chiropractor to try to get some relief. I have never seen a chiropractor. First visit wasn't much more than paperwork and going over my medical history. I made sure to warn them in both the paperwork I filled out and in person with the assistant, the fragile condition of my lower spine. However, the next day when I went back they adjusted my entire spine before I even new what was happenìng. My first and last visit to a chiropractor. He had told me I would probably be sore. That evening my lower back began to hurt and by the next morning I was in considerable pain. I am talking pain not soreness. The appt. had been on a Friday so by the time Monday came, my pain had become unbearable. I called my pain dr who got me in as soon as they could and gave me an injection on both sides of my lower back of a strong pain medicine and cortizone. They felt sure that would resolve things. It didn't and things have continued to feel worse. I finally got back in to see my the actual dr who kept assuring me this was nothing more than like when you'return in a bad car crash and your body really hurts after. But I kept saying I know what kind of pain he was talking about and this wasn't it. I felt as though I was talking to the wall, even though both he and his PA told me I should have never let a chiropractor touch A NY part of my back because of the fragile and severe problems I have with my back. He told me to get complete bed rest for next few days, take 600 mg of ibuprofen every 4 to 6 hours, he increased my pump dose by 10%,and to use a heating pad. These were on top of having already increased my oral morphine to double (60 mg ) and giving me a stronger muscle relaxer. None of this helped. So here I am waiting to have an MRI of my back and going back to my dr tomorrow afternoon. At this point I am in great fear that this chiropractor has done major damage to my back and that this pain is never going to stop. It's now been over 2 weeks that I have suffered unrelenting pain that nothing seems to affect. I'm at my breaking point.

Has anyone ever experienced such a thing or heard of some one who has? I'd like to hear your thoughts.


  • I am sorry you are in so much pain. Personally. I have never been to a Chiropractor, but check some of the old threads under "Alternative Treatments" and you find some horror stories. Apparently, Chiros can be helpful when you have some problems with your soft tissues, but with serious spinal problems they should be avoided, because at best they are useless, at the worst, they can cause serious damage. But don't take my words for this, look up some information on previous threads. Hope you get better soon and find some relief through conventional medical treatment.

  • EnglishGirlEEnglishGirl Posts: 1,825
    edited 09/11/2014 - 12:59 PM
    I'm so terribly sorry. I can only imagine how depressed, frustrated, ANGRY this has made you feel. I really hope for your sake that this chiropractor has ONLY created a pain flare from hell & it will resolve in its own time. I think you're starting to realize that chiropractors can cause serious damage by doing their adjustments on patients with spine conditions. Usually it's accelerating something that was degenerating already but I know that will do little to console you. I know that waiting in unrelenting agony sucks but it sounds like your docs are doing pretty much everything I can think of until your MRI shows what's happened.
    Remember to use ALL the rescue 'tricks', ice/heat, creams, airomatherapy oils etc. I'm hoping for the best for you. When's your MRI? Fingers crossed.

    I need to have a little rant about some chiropractors because this makes me so angry. Some present themselves as spine specialists & they are NOT. They don't have the education & years of training necessary to understand our very complicated spines. I've been told in no uncertain terms to NEVER allow a chiropractor to perform adjustments on my spine by many specialists. I was lucky, when this first started for me I went to a great chiropractor. She took an X-ray & showed me the glowing white mass at the base of my spine & told me to make an appointment with a spine surgeon & never let a chiropractor near my lumbar spine! There are some good chiropractors out there but for us they're the ones who won't treat us!

    Sorry again. I know all this is doing nothing to put your mind at rest but hopefully another member will read this & it will save them a lot of pain. A surgeon once told me "It's rare that a chiropractor causes permanent damage!". I sincerely hope that the odds are in your favor. Please let us know what happens. Best wishes.
    Osteoarthritis & DDD.
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    Unfortunately, when you have existing spine issues, a chiropractor is not the best choice. I made the same mistake, only my chiro was told NOT to do any adjustments, and he did. I instantly lost all muscle control and feeling in my legs, and when I tried to stand, my legs buckled.....that was the start of my road to surgery, in fact, I was in surgery some 10 days later.....because that's how long it took to get the new MRI's, CT scans and myelograms, pre op blood work done.
    I will hope that nothing permanent was done and that it is simply a bad flare for you.
  • Thanks for all your comments and insight. Unfortunately the problem continues. Had my MRI on Wednesday, but according to my pain dr, it shows nothing new or helpful. We did facet joint injections 2 days ago but as of right now they have failed to do anything for my pain . He mentioned that if these injections were not helpful he would do an epidural. I have to tell you that after 20 years of chronic pain and numerous injections of every kind, I have never had much success in that regard. If this is my only option, I fear I am in big trouble. I can't begin to imagine continuing with this degree of pain and getting no relief from the pain. My dr initially felt I was only experiencing the type of thing you feel after a bad car accident, but I've always known it was nothing like that. This is definitely not the same soreness or pain you experience after any car accident. This is true deep-seated pain. I don'the know where to turn and I'm quite scared. Thanks for listening.
  • Where exactly is the pain? In the lower lumbar area? You said that you have arthritis? It may be that the adjustment aggravated the arthritis. Have you tried ice and anti inflammatory medications? The combination may offer you some relief. I know, it seems over simple when it comes to what to do, but it might be more helpful than you think. And also over the counter muscular rubs, ointments or creams may also offer some additional relief. My grandmother swore by absorbadine jr for her out of control pain levels in her arthritic spine. It is worth a try.
    Did they image your entire spine or just the lumbar area?
  • Thanks for all the support and information. To answer you, Sandi, my pain is actually in my lowest part of my spine, in my tailbone area. In fact my initial diagnosis15 years ago was coccyxdinia. Yes, my back is full of arthritis and I did do the ice packs, the heating pad, anti-inflammatories, and many other OTC remedies for the first 2 weeks after my problem began, but nothing helped. I noticed my MRI report showed numerous osteophytes (bone spurs), that are already causing deformity and bulging of the thecal sac. My natural thought is that when the chiro manipulated my back, he forced one or more of those spurs further into my spine, a theory I haven't yet discussed with my pain dr. I am now at a place where 60 mg morphine tablets (double my normal dose) isn't enough. I remain terrified that the upcoming epidural won't be any help and this pain is here to stay.
  • Wow, I feel for you!! I also have endured long term unrelentless pain. Although I had relief for 2yrs, where I would get minor flare ups, but nothing like I used to. Recently I have had a major relapse. Nearly 3 weeks ago. The type of pain that causes you to just collapse or pass out. I was seeing a chiropractor at the time, because I knew my back was flaring up again. In the back of my mind I do worry he did something on the last visit prior to my major relapse. I lifted something to hook up, that one side fell and I caught it...bad move...should have let it fall. Later that day, after sitting for half an hour...I stood up...and OMG...just thought no....not again please!! That night was a nightmare, and the next day. In fact when I talk about it, it feels like a bad nightmare. I had a ct scan yesterday, so will find the results out next tues when I see the dr again. When I was at my worst, I overdosed....I was suffering the relentless unbearable pain for 2 years. In the end it beat me mentally. I have posted about it in new posts so wont repeat it here. But for me, it was a Myropractor who helped me. I will never go to a chiro again.I have returned to a myropractor yesterday and now have faith I will return to as normal as you possibly can be with a back problem. God I hope you get some help soon, you poor man......I honestly don't know how you are coping. But please, don't ever give up. Please read my post and you will see what I went through. Mentally it is destroying...my heart goes out to you and I send loads and loads of good wishes your way to some form of recovery and pain relief.
  • Well, as good as it can be when you are in such pain. (((very gentle hugs))) I too have suffered from unrelenting pain. I am still in pain but I am looking at surgery which I hope is the first step towards recovery. Please hang in there and continue looking for answers.

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