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Spinal stenosis with herniated disc

Jeff49JJeff49 Posts: 22
edited 10/29/2014 - 4:40 AM in Lower Back Pain
Hi I'm a male 49 going on 50, I have always had lower back issues for the past 15 years. Back in 2002 I had bad back pain and saw my doctor, they stated I had Ddd. They did the shots, PT and traction that seemed to help a little but my back still had issues and when it would act up I would rest and medicate and it would last a couple days and then I was back up and going. But 3 weeks ago after vaccuming the stairs I felt a bad pain and burning in my back, I did the usual and hit the coach and took over the counter mess and used the Ben gay heat patches. (2 boxes) they pai did not stop and I was walking hunched over and could not stand or sit with out pain. 2 weeks after the initial pain I stood up and felt a pain like someone had just stabbed me, I'm saying bad pain, I could hardly walk as I made my way thru my kitchen I was in so much pain I grabbed the island with both hands and I couldn't let go, I felt as if I would let go the pain was so severe I was going to fall, after approx 15 min or so my fiancé came in the room seeing me stuck and almost in tears she tried to help me back to the couch by letting me grab her shoulders when I did and after taking maybe 2 baby steps the pain was so bad all I could do was collapse on the kitchen floor where I laid for awhile, I then went to the ER, they ran No test but gave me hydrocodone and methcarbam and advised me to follow up with my family doc, I did the next day and he did some relex test and leg test and he gave me a shot in my back and sent me for MRI and scheduled a follow up appt for a week later , 2 days later the pain in my back, left leg hip and groin area was so bad I left work after arriving and called the doctor and he said to come in they had my MRI results. When I got there he stated not good, I had a hernated disc l3/l4 and also said I had spinal stenosis and was referring me to a nuerosurgeon, i asked what i could do not wanting surgery and my family doctor stated he didnt see any way around surgery and the nuerosurgeon would cover in more detail, my doctor then double my hydrocodone strenght and told me to take twice the pills and added tizanipine 4mg pills I called to set appt with nuerosurgeon and the said they cant see me till nov 17 which was a little over 3 weeks awayI have now been off work for 1 week with the same severe pain in back left leg and hip and when I stand or even sit it causes more pain, can anyone tell me how long these pains will be I can't stand it I'm taking my meds and they make me feel tired and disoriented, I very worried now about the spinal stenosis and have read a lot online around it when I ran across the ssdi stating spinal stenosis is a listed disability, should I be applying for ssdi now since I have the MRI and radiologist report showing both spinal stenosis and herniated disc, the pain won't stop and I'm lost, I work for the largest communications company in the world and have std as a benefit but have not yet been approved because it only been a week so I haven't met the 8 day waiting time to file for disa, I can't get rid of the pain, the meds seem to take the edge off but I still hurt and feel like I want to cuss the world out, when I stand after 2 min or so the pain and burning really increase and I can sit without pain so I have spent a lot of time on my back on the hard floor, I've read that ssdi stated spinal stenosis is a listed disabilty and qualifier, I don't know what to do please respond if you can help, thank you and god bless
Spinal stenosis with neurogenic clauducation
3 level retrolisthesis
Bilateral Laminectomy/Discectomy surgery l3/l4 on 11-21-14 (failed)
L3/l4 spinal Fusion 03-20-15


  • sandisandi Posts: 6,343
    edited 10/29/2014 - 4:52 AM
    Welcome to Spine Health........
    I am sorry that you needed to find us,but glad that you did......
    As far as filing for disability goes, why would you want to consider filing for disability at this current stage ? You haven't been seen by the surgeon yet, don't know what treatment options are available for treating the stenosis, or even how serious or severe the stenosis or herniation is........it is far too early to consider that option.
    Spinal stenosis can occur in two areas of the spine- the foramina, where the nerve roots exit at each vertebral level, and the central canal.......both areas when there is stenosis, can be treated, and the compression of the nerves if there is any, can be relieved quite effectively.......Stenosis is a term which simply means narrowing , and it can be very, very mild, mild, moderate or severe.......even with severe cases of stenosis, once the compression of the nerves is relieved, people do quite well . http://www.spine-health.com/conditions/spine-anatomy

    As far as a herniation goes, again, it depends on how big the herniation is, what other structures in the spine may or may not be effected by the herniation......if a herniation is effecting other structures in the spine, then there are options to treat the herniation, or if it is not a large one, or extruded, then it may resolve on it's own given some time.
    If I were you, I would wait and see what the surgeon tells you regarding the MRI report, and then try the conservative treatement options first, unless there is a severe problem and then if he recommends surgery, consult at least one other spine surgeon for a second opinion. There is a lot that can be done to fix the problems, and you can go resume your life with little change.......Neither one of those conditions necessarily mean that you are disabled or would be......

  • EnglishGirlEEnglishGirl Posts: 1,825
    edited 10/29/2014 - 7:30 AM
    When you first start taking those medications they do make your brain feel pretty messed-up. For me & many others those feeling pass within a couple of weeks. As Sandi says there's a lot that can be done to treat you. I know how terrifying it is to learn you have spine damage but most of us find ways to cope & carry on. If you need surgery you want your insurance! Hopefully you will recover & be back at work in no time if this is the case.
    Identifying & treating spine pain generators can take a frustratingly long time. Please just hang in there & see what the specialist advises. I know it's hard. Best of luck.
    Osteoarthritis & DDD.
  • Jeff49JJeff49 Posts: 22
    edited 10/29/2014 - 10:16 AM
    Thanks for your comments and time, I just got back from doctor he now added gaBapentin 400mg 3x a day and is referring me to pain management doctor since número is 3 weeks away, I got copy's of MRI and radiologist report and it reads:
    Mild disc bulges at t12/l1 and l2/l3
    At l3/l4disc there is diffuse disc bulge and moderate size right asymmetric posterior protruded disc herniation that causes severe central spinal canal stenosis, this is also accentuated by congenitally short pedicels. There is mild left neutral forming narrowing.
    L4/l5 there is diffuse disc bulge with small posterior annular tear and mild bilateral neural forming narrowing
    L5/s1 disc: mild diffuse disc bulge with small posterior annular tear.

    HELP .......what does all this mean?
    Thanks for your help

    There is nobody on the forum qualified to advice on an MRI finding. the rules state....
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    Spinal stenosis with neurogenic clauducation
    3 level retrolisthesis
    Bilateral Laminectomy/Discectomy surgery l3/l4 on 11-21-14 (failed)
    L3/l4 spinal Fusion 03-20-15
  • AmankaurAAmankaur Posts: 1
    edited 07/25/2015 - 9:24 PM
    I also have 3 slip disks on my lower back with Major spinal stenosis. Suffering from bad back pain at this time,. I totally understand when you said that your back totally froze and you were stuck in the kitchen for 15 mins. I would suggest you to try the epidural shots, they may help as well. Please do let me know if you find anything else.

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  • Hi Jeff

    Just wondering if you have an update on your back issues, was the second surgery more successful? are you managing pain with meds? is your life getting back to normal?
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