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Physical therapy and Accupuncture

Just checking to see what other peoples opinions are on this. I had physical therapy after my second microdiscectomy and had a good therapist. She did some manual adjustments on my si joint and it helped some. I'm a bit nervous now, though due to a recent back flare that if I go back to PT now, it will make it worse. Is adjustment ok to do on someone that has disc surgery before? What about adjusting the SI joint? I'm taking Decadron for the next week and I'm going to start Accupuncture. Would you recommend starting one before the other or together? I am trying everything I can to avoid going to surgery though some days its hell. The sciatica pain is terrible and I have to work and still do stuff around the house. It feels like a constant tooth ache in my piriformis muscle.
Microdiscectomy L5/S1 2010
Revision microdiscectomy after reherniation L5/S1 2014
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  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 10,045
    and have confidence in them, then you should continue. Also by a good therapist, they understand when too much is too much.
    Acupuncture is an effective conservative treatment tool. It can be used along side with your PT.
    I had good luck with acupuncture, my only drawback was that you had to keep it up. One or two sessions is not going to clear up a situation. I was going 1x week for about 10 weeks, feeling ok, but I missed a week and then I had to start it all over again to get that same level of relief.

    It is important who does the acupuncture. Just like massage therapists, it doesnt take much to get credentials to do this. But to do them correctly and effectively, thats something else. My physiatrist has been the one to do more acupuncture. But she also realizes her limits. There are some points that only acupuncture specialists can achieve.
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
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  • Aero123AAero123 Posts: 37
    edited 01/03/2015 - 3:32 AM
    dilauro said:
    and have confidence in them, then you should continue. Also by a good therapist, they understand when too much is too much.
    Acupuncture is an effective conservative treatment tool. It can be used along side with your PT.
    I had good luck with acupuncture, my only drawback was that you had to keep it up. One or two sessions is not going to clear up a situation. I was going 1x week for about 10 weeks, feeling ok, but I missed a week and then I had to start it all over again to get that same level of relief.

    It is important who does the acupuncture. Just like massage therapists, it doesnt take much to get credentials to do this. But to do them correctly and effectively, thats something else. My physiatrist has been the one to do more acupuncture. But she also realizes her limits. There are some points that only acupuncture specialists can achieve.
    Thank you for your response. I definitely plan on going to acupuncture a few days a week for an indefinite amount of time. If it helps with the pain and allows me to be active again than its worth the investment in my health. The acupuncture clinician I'm consulting is board certified and has been in practice over 25 years with great references. I will start the PT as well. I'd rather pay out of pocket (my insurance does not cover acupuncture) if it will help. I'd prefer trying all of this before another surgery that does not guarantee results or relief.
    Microdiscectomy L5/S1 2010
    Revision microdiscectomy after reherniation L5/S1 2014
  • Aero123AAero123 Posts: 37
    edited 01/06/2015 - 2:36 AM
    For those that have done accupuncture for sciatica and herniated discs, how long did you go before seeing results? I have my first appointment next week. I'm looking forward to seeing what it can do for me.
    Microdiscectomy L5/S1 2010
    Revision microdiscectomy after reherniation L5/S1 2014
  • I am also interested in hearing how acupuncture has worked for others. I had a microdiscectomy ten days ago and as the Dr put it "the nerves (which were compressed for three years) are still thawing out and are angry". It is getting better day by day, but wanted to see if others had used acupuncture to help those angry nerves get some blood flow.
  • itsautonomicitsautonomic LouisianaPosts: 1,941
    There are some actual doctors ( MD )who do it ( at least around where i work ) and can get help from insurance, may be worth looking in your area.
    Do your due dilegence, trust you know your body and question everything if it does not fit. Advocate for yourself and you will be suprised what will be revealed trusting your body and instinct.
  • It's been awhile since I've posted. I am sooo happy to say Accupuncture is working wonders for me. My sciatica is almost gone to a point where I'm not even taking Ibuprofen. I love my acupuncturist and I look forward to going every week. I have had 4 treatments so far and feel amazing both mentally and physically. I plan on doing it for life. It has helped me in so many ways.
    Microdiscectomy L5/S1 2010
    Revision microdiscectomy after reherniation L5/S1 2014
  • JulstweekJJulstweek Posts: 1
    edited 03/05/2015 - 8:16 PM
    I will support you to continue your PT and acupuncture sessions. For me just the PT sessions helped me recover from disc displacement and didn’t even have to go for surgery. I did my sessions from Sports Injury Clinic and they gave me proper guidance on what to do and what not to do, during my treatment period. The exercises given me strengthened my back and I’m now confident enough with it. I’m still continuing those exercises and that really helps me.
  • Only1BonesOOnly1Bones Posts: 2
    edited 03/10/2015 - 6:49 AM
    PT helped me a little bit but then I got to a point where they said I will always have pain, I just have to manage the flare ups. I tried acupuncture and usually only got relief for an hour or so after. I had 7 sessions/1x week.
  • Between yoga and P.T. I am trying to avoid decompression surgery for L5 nerve impingement. MRI reveals narrow recess openings caused by buldging disk at l4 & l5... .which means sciatica nerve is irritated, coupled with narrow opening..nerve has no where to go...So I did all 3 steroid injections which helped temporarily , very short lived 3 to 4 days all completed between Jan 19th and Feb 9th.

    I had my first accupuncture session today for constant nerve pain below the right knee, runs alongside to front of leg,today I had my first ever accupuncture session, immediately after I noticed an euphoric lightheaded feeling after the session ansnoticed my pain levell dropped to a one...
  • Still going to acupuncture and my pain is a zero right now. I've even thrown a little jogging into my walks. I am at a happy place right now. I'm now going to acupuncture every other week. It is part of my life now.
    Microdiscectomy L5/S1 2010
    Revision microdiscectomy after reherniation L5/S1 2014
  • I'd hoped accupuncture would given me recovery lasting more than an hour...I know it is great for some folks which is why I was optimistic and tried it (three times)..I have a couple more appts that I'll keep for my portfolio of pain mgtment..thankfully my insurance pays for it...IF I had to pay out of pocket I would of been disappointed. ; (
    Pain mgtment is a garden variety of treatments..so try it but have realistic expectations. BTW...I'm sticking with Physical Therapy! b/c..started a new sciatica flare up ,,, yikes! So painful and back to pain mgtment Doc...doing everything to avoid surgery. Is it just me or does it appear that once you have that 1rst surgery,,, youll be back? I keep seeing follow up surgeries.
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