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nonibologna2nnonibologna2 Posts: 1
edited 06/13/2015 - 8:13 PM in Chronic Pain
I had a horse injury about 3.5 years ago where a 1,200 lb. horse got spooked and bolted forward just as I was walking around and he hit me right in the lower back/back of hip and have just now started going to Dr. My lumbar xray/MRI showed herniated discs from L2-S1, and a mild degenerative disk-but nothing bad enough for surgery, and every Dr. I have talked to seems skeptical about injecting. I have been prescribed multiple anti-inflammatories with no difference, and I have done PT for about 3 months with some improvement but not a lot. During the course of PT, tingling began in the right foot, and is now the entire right leg and most of the left all the time. The tingling isn't painful, but the back is! I just had a rheumatologist send me for an xray of the SI joint, but it came back clean. I am having a hard time b/c it seems like nobody believes that I am in pain. The pain is in lower right back/hip area, and is bad if I sit/lay for a long time, or if I do anything more than light everyday activity. The only way I can sleep comfortably is by putting a pillow between my legs, and even then it doesn't help the entire night. I see a chiro and he thinks he can get it fixed in a few weeks, but so far no change. I don't want something to be wrong, but at least if I can figure this out then I will have a direction to take. Anybody hear of anything similar to this??


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  • SavageSavage United StatesPosts: 5,476
    Have you had any nerve conduction tests?
    I had EMG and it was very revealing to doctor about areas of my spine effected, even areas I have never given voice to.

    You said doctor is skeptical about giving injections. I'm assuming you mean epidurals to your spine?
    Did doctor explain his thought process?
    Please ask your doctor about anything you don't understand. He needs to be clear, as we patients need to be, also, for best communication and being in same page.
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  • Xrays won't show herniated discs or bulges. Xrays check for alignment and disc spacing, fractures or tumors, but can not show whether or not discs are herniated or bulging, or nerves are compressed.
    Perhaps you mean disc bulges? Herniations and bulges are two different conditions.
    If you are experiencing nerve pain and symptoms, I wouldn't suggest allowing a chiropractor to do any adjustments until you know for sure what's going on.
    Have you had your hip itself checked out?

  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,874
    nonibologna2 said:

    My lumbar xray/MRI showed herniated discs from L2-S1
    So, we can assume your doctor read the results of your MRI and identified the herniated discs.

    Sandi is correct, there is a difference between a bulging disc

    Bulging A bulging disk extends outside the space it should normally occupy.
    Herniated a crack in the tough outer layer of cartilage allows some of the softer inner cartilage to protrude out of the disk. Herniated disks are also called ruptured disks or slipped disks.
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  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,874
    strongly recommend staying away from a chiropractor.

    Once you have been identified with a spinal disc problem, a chiropractor is probably the last person you would want to see. You should be looking at spinal/back specialists.
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  • PlumbTuckeredOutPlumbTuckeredOut Philadelphia, PAPosts: 325
    I know it seems to us that doctors don't believe that we are in pain. Pain certainly seems like a motivation to make a doctor work fast but usually pain is one of the last reasons doctors will do procedures on the back. Pain is extremely difficult to treat with the back and even most procedures do not heal back pain.

    MRIs and x-rays can show us issues with your spine now but there is no way of knowing if these changes to your spine existed before the horse knocked you around. Many people are walking around with horribly out of whack backs but they experience no pain. Many people experience great pain but with no indication of tissue damage.

    And, you will notice that many of us with back, neck, spinal injuries are with Pain Clinics. These are usually staffed with doctors who treat pain of all kinds. They do not pretend they can "cure" anything but they offer modalities to lessen pain. Pain Clinics are not places where people go to get heavy drugs (as many people believe). They are places that can teach you about the sensation known as pain and how to change your pain experience on many different levels.


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    I still don't know if I should have taken the one that said, "Caution! Dead End" (Me)
  • Then keep on asking questions. It's not clear where you live (city or countryside, for example), but you need to keep trying to move forward. Find out if there are any spine specialists in your area, including neurosurgeons and orthopedic surgeons, as well as physical therapists that specialize in treating lumbar problems. And don't just "do" physical therapy - ask your physical therapists questions as well: Have seen problems like yours in the past? How many times? How are the exercises intended to help your condition? What are the different kinds of outcomes they have achieved? From L2 to S1 you have four discs. If they are all herniated, not just bulging, it may only be a matter of time before you become a candidate for surgery. I have had multiple surgeries (I'm at 8 and counting) and each time my insurance company would not approve the original request for surgery but responded that I needed to be treated "conservatively" for 90 days or more. By the time that period elapsed I was usually in much worse shape and nearly unable to move. Hang in there.
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