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Upper Back Pain

DistantStarDDistantStar Posts: 1
edited 07/10/2015 - 3:30 PM in New Member Introductions
Hello everyone. I am 61 years old. I have been experiencing upper back pain, especially in the middle (T4) and around the right shoulder for five months. It is constant but has actually got better, however, when I carry things e.g. bucket of water, it starts to hurt quite a lot. When it's really bad, my ribs start to hurt too.

I've been to my GP, two bone specialists and an endocrinologist too. I also have osteoporosis in my hips and at one time I also had osteopenia in my spine. The endocrinologist found that I have a slightly enlarged parathyroid, however, he doesn't think that the back pain is due to this. An MRI of the spine and neck showed degenerative disc change at C4/5 C5/6 and C6/7 with a reverse cervical lordosis. Do you think that the back and rib pain could be due to the this? I see my bone specialist next month. I don't really have pain problems with my neck although it feels slightly stiff, but it feels normal. I retired in July 2014 after 23 years working at a desk job. During December my partner was diagosed with cancer and I was going back and forth from the hospital carrying bags, then in January my mother passed away. It was a very stressful period and I thought perhaps this brought the problem on.

Thank you for any advice, or just your thoughts.


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  • EnglishGirlEEnglishGirl Posts: 1,825
    edited 07/11/2015 - 10:51 AM
    You've been through so much lately. I'm so sorry. I hope you're partner is doing much better now. I have a very degenerative spine & I know that stress & depression increase my perception of my pain but my pain is very real & the cause clearly visible on my diagnostics like you. Have you had a consultation with a board certified spine surgeon to analyse your diagnostics & advise you on the best course of action? I'm not saying that you need surgery, just that they're the very best in my experience. They can refer you to other specialists if needed.

    Degenerative disc covers a multitude of sins. It really depends on exactly what's going on in there.

    I hope you stick around. I've found the help & support of other members invaluable. Chronic pain alone can cause depression & anxiety. You've been through so much. Have you considered seeing a chronic pain psychologist/therapist? I was surprised at all they have to offer. Mine mostly concentrated on finding coping mechanisms for day-to-day life, driving etc but it was also great to have someone to talk to who really understood what I go through. Pain gets in the way of so much & drags us down if we let it. It's nice to meet you. I hope to see you around on the forums.
    Osteoarthritis & DDD.
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