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iembracemypainiiembracemypain Posts: 18
edited 08/12/2015 - 12:58 PM in Pain Medications
I have been reading these posts for quite sometime, and want to say thank you all for all your support and guidance to everyone here. I wrote a rather lenghthy post a while ago and can not seem to find it anywhere????? I will try again please bear with me as I am in much pain today.

I was taking 50mc fetyenol patches every 72 hours along with 2 7.5 norcos every six hours not to exceed 9 per day for irretractable spine pain for the past year. My PCP changed me to 50mg Kadians twice daily, plus norcos. When i went to pharmacy they did not have med in that strength so they called around to other pharmacys to no avail. Now it being a saturday i called doctor on call who wrote me out a script for 30mg Kadians 2 times daily but told me to take three as he had to write scrip like that for insurance to pay.

This was by far the best pain relief I have had in 35 years.Yippy....20 days later I go in with a scrip from PCP for 30mg Kadian 3 times daily, well insurance company denied saying I needed a PA as they normally dont pay for this type of medication to be taken three times a day. My doctors office sent a PA..it was denied again and we had to appeal. Waiting on there decision. It can take up to 72 more hours even though my doctor asked for it to be expidited.

This has been going on 6 longgggggg days of me being in very bad pain and I believe some withdrawing too. Has anyone come across this, and if so how did you handle it?? Any input is greatly welcome.
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  • I have had problems with my back and neck since I was 15. First due to trama of being thrown on the edge of a tail gate and being held there while trying to fight off a gang rape. Due to this trama I suffered many physical and emotional crap. Besides the normal trip to hospital and rape kit etc, I received multiple stitches but dont remember if I had any xrays or anything for my spine pain. I have had a couple car accidents and one fall that was chalked up as whiplash throughout my twenties and thirties.

    I have been to ER many times for what they called lumbar sprains. I have never followed through with any medical testing for my spine as I was dealing with chronic depression, severe PTSD, anxiety,and panic attacks. I finally found a doctor I trusted in early 2013. She first sent me to a DPN who found a significant leg length discrepancy. He said I prob had all my life and that would surely cause lower back pain. Then on 01/30/2014 had a cervical mri. c4-5 there is shallow posterior disk and osteophyte complex.spinal canal lower limits of normal.moderate bilateral neural foraminal encroachment due to uncovertebral hypertrophy.c5-6 shallow posterior disk and osteophyte complex with moderate uncovertebral joint hypertrophy and neural foraminal encroachment. spinal canal lower limits of normal.c6-7 shallow posterior disk and osteophyte complex. There is moderate and mild neural foraminal stenosis on the right and left respectively due to uncovertebral joint hypertrophy. The spinal canal is lower limits of normal. There was also a moderate reversal of the cervical lordosis suggesting muscle spasm.

    Am very sorry but I need to rest a few before I continue as my hands keep freezing up on me. Thanks for your patience if reading this book.

  • iembracemypainiiembracemypain Posts: 18
    edited 08/12/2015 - 4:05 PM
    Ok then on 04-14-2014 i had a Lumbar MRI L1-2 there is eccentric bulge slightly to left of midline without lateralizing disc herniation identified. L3-4 there is moderate posterior disc bulge and mild degenerate facet arthropathy. L4-5 there is disc bulge tear which indents the ventral surface of the thecal sac and contributes to mild lateral recess narrowing.There are mild degenerative facet changes.L5-s1 there is a mild broad based posterior bulge and mild facet disease. The findings contribute to mild foraminal narrowing bilaterally. There is degenerative disc signal loss along with mild to moderate loss of disc height principally at L1-2, L4-5,and L5-s1. At L5-s1 there is moderate amount of endplate edema. Multilevel degenerate disc and facet disease.

    Have not had MRI done on mid back yet. Started going to Neurosurgery and spine doctors on 03-03-2014. She at once from first visit started talking surgery on neck and then we would deal with rest of issues later. Had 3 cervical epidurals done in 5 week time. They did nothing for my pain at all. And because my lower back was in crisis they did a lumbar epidural just to see if they could calm it down. Which was 4 shots in less than 6 weeks. Not what they normally recommend but hey they tried lol.

    They also did that needle test on your nerves,{sorry dont recall the name} Cant find that paper work. Anyhow this whole time talk was surgery surgery surgery....then I meet the man who would actually DO the surgery and he tells my son and I that if I was HIS SISTER he would not recommend this surgery at least not now. So I been back to my PCP who prescribes all my many meds and am now in agony from my neck to tail bone and beyond because of not being able to get my Kadian through insurance company.UGH...What to do
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,846
    that deal with this exact subject, you will find that it is so very important to make sure that you have the exact amount of medication available at all times.

    This also means never running low on a prescription One of the major reasons for narcotic prescription refills is due to patients running short , before the prescribed time frame. Doctors offices, Pharmacists and Insurance companies are going to be very tough on those situations.

    From reading your posts, I will admit, everything online is not the way it is, your condition is being describe as mild and moderate. That being said, the amount of pain medication you are on seems a bit high. Then the statement that the doctor doesnt think you will need surgery, at least now.... Perhaps that again is because your condition is not at the point where surgery is required.

    That doesnt mean you are not in pain. Pain medications alone will never control and manage pain levels. They are just part of a total package.
    Take a look at The Blend to see what I am talking about.
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
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  • I have been doing tons of reading on this site for quite some time now, and it has been a great source of information! I have to say that me not having my meds this past week had nothing to do with me. I have never taking anymore than I was told to take...never ran out early..never failed a pill count...never failed a ua. It was only how my doctor wrote my script that the insurance would not pay. I was welcome to go to pharmacy and pay cash for it but in no way could afford it! Doctor and insurance said it should def be approved by Friday. But this is a long time to be in pain needlessly!!!

    Besides meds I have done the injections,water therapy,massage,stretching,and I also apply heat, so much so that my doctor asked me to stop that for awhile because I was having skin changes. I stay as active as my body allows,and would do anything to help manage my pain. I will read The Blend right now. Maybe there is something I have not tried.

    I dont agree with you that my meds are "high" because even with them I am in a good amount of pain but I can function and take care of my family while the doctors continue there tests and such. I do think I am on way too much Norco! I agree there. And they gave me way too many shots in short amount of time! I ended up with acute kidney failure in June of last year following the series of shots. The meds in them masked the pain I was having and the Norcos masked the fever I should have noticed. I would never have another shot again!

    Again thanks for your reply and I will read the blend.
  • I read the blend,and have tried or do many of the helpful things listed. I am VERY interested in the Tens Unit, and would like to ask my doctor about the traction gizmo. It sounds kinda painful but a good kind of pain like when I have deep tissue massage. It has taking MANY years to finally take care of me and get the help I need that I am open to just about anything.

    Am thankful this whole PA thing happened this time of year and not in the winter! I experience many more flare ups at that time due to the cold and arthritis! I dont believe anyone should have to go through this when you are doing everything your suppose to be doing. Darn Insurance company!!!
  • for sending that link. I never heard of it,and what a good thing to have out there for people who qualify and need it! I read the list of drugs they cover and Kadian is not one of them. Plus my problem should be fixed very soon according to doc and insurance company. I have pretty good coverage and have never had much problems with them.Two other times they challenged my doctor, once for the Lidocaine patch I was on{which I understand it is very expensive}, I tried a cream version of same main drug in it and it worked fine for me, so I didnt have doc appeal that decision. And one other time after years of taken my Lorazapam0.5 4x daily they denied it and my doc had to appeal the decision,and won. Considering the amount of medications I am on,all the specialist I see,and all the different testing I have had they have been pretty good! I am just frustrated,in pain,and very anxious that this has happened. I had to cancel two important procedures with my ENT this week due to my pain level being out of control so that didnt help matters much either. Well enough of my whining lol. Thank you very much again for trying to help me out. Hope you have a great day!
  • iembracemypainiiembracemypain Posts: 18
    edited 08/13/2015 - 3:35 AM
    One of the reasons I was so happy on this Kadian was while taking it my Norco usage went from 9 a day to 2 max a day!!! That is a huge difference. I was never comfortable taking that many but apparently the patch I was on did not work for me as well as this Kadian because I needed them. So on the up side when I get this med back I will not have to use all that norco.
  • aruzinskyaaruzinsky Posts: 40
    edited 08/13/2015 - 8:49 AM
    "Norco" and "Kadians" are brand names for hydrocodone/acetaminophen and morphine, respectively. If you think that you or your doctor are just exercising free speech, think again. Brand name drugs are typically more expensive than their generic versions and that could be why your insurance company denies coverage. And, even if your insurance covers them, you are doing the rest of us a disservice by causing insurance premiums to needlessly rise. Check your insurance company's formulary for generic versions and read the quantity limits. Your insurance company probably has its formulary online.
  • iembracemypainiiembracemypain Posts: 18
    edited 08/13/2015 - 7:52 AM
    But am happy to say my doctor nor myself are doing any disfavors to anyone. My mistake here....I am new to the opiate world here, and in fact never heard of Kadian till 28 days ago. I do get generic forms of both meds. Hydrocodon-Acetaminoph 7.5 325, substitute for Norco. and Morphine Sulfate Er 30mg,substitite for Kadian. I have always referred to them by brand name because its how I remember there names best. I take a huge amount of meds everyday and I believe most all are generic it has just been easier to remember and spell out lol.

    Again my insurance denied "Kadian" because it was written out for three times a day, and they dont pay for that without the doctor justifying why I need it three times a day. Sitting here in pain I dont think its fair to have to wait so long for something the insurance company will pay for after all this needless suffering. Why take so long in other words to do something you know your going to do anyways!!!
  • When I started this thread I wrote" insurance keeps denying meds" maybe this is misleading to some people?? I should have perhaps wrote "Insurance company denying my long acting medication"?? It is only the Morphine Sulfate Er that I am having trouble with. Between being in pain and never being on this site before I have caused some confusion. Sorry if this is the case I will try to be more clear and precise in the future.
  • SavageSavage United StatesPosts: 5,427
    edited 08/13/2015 - 8:25 AM
    I may be having difficulty discerning through all the information noted above, but if it is within your concerns....
    I think it very good to be able to use scheduled pain medication, or a patch, that lessens the pain and requires less breakthrough pain medication.

    For myself, if possible, I often choose to do less activities and endure the added pain instead of taking breakthrough medication.
    My thoughts are to keep the medication effective, as I don't know how many years, decades, ahead of me to have continued management of the pain.

    I do not know specifically of pain medications, but my oldest son, recently deceased from rejection of second kidney transplant...he often had medications that were prescribed with doctor's addition of "no generic substitute".
    There may be some additives to different generics, thought to be near harmless, but some patients react to.

    This year, I too, have had difficulties with my insurance allowing continuation of couple of my meds routinely prescribed.
    Medication I was on was generic and denied and insurance wanted another generic substitute.

    All that was required was paperwork from my doctor to the need, and insurance did continue with coverage.
    My doctor's reaction, however, was in anger, not at me, but for the added work he needed to do for his continuing to care for patients.

    I downloaded the required paper work and filled in much as possible, my name, etc... for ease to my doctor's filing. At first, insurance required doctor to call and he told me he will not as he tried that previously with another patient and was kept on hold or transferred for near an hour. I called insurance to learn of alternative of paper work.

    There have been many changes to our health care system. We may need to readjust our way of working within the system....more involvement from patient and doctor.

    I think medical management is best between patient and doctor. I'm not a wasteful person, not with my money or the money of others, and I personally will continue to work for my best interest re my health.

    I wish you the best in caring for yourself, also, and for continued care for your issues and lessening of pain.
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  • I am very sorry to hear of your loss. As a parent and a grandmother raising my 4 year old grandson I can not begin to imagine your sorrow. My thoughts are with you.

    Being fairly new to all this I am just beginning to realize that I have so much to learn! I think my doctor played a big part in this delay. I know the doctors office was getting quite frustrated with all the phone calls and paper work. Alot of suggestions were made to her by both insurance company and pharmacy and she didnt listen to any of them. As I stated before I really like this doctor, but maybe its time to go to pain management?? I could keep her as my PCP but get someone who deals with this everyday working with me?

    I have Never been comfortable with the amount of Hydrocodon she has me on but anytime I brought it up she never really addressed it. I am learning alot from this board. When I see her again I have lots of questions for her! I do see her alot but there is always so much to talk about with all my other health problems that sometimes I leave there feeling not so informed. Do you know what I mean?

    Hopefully this will all get worked out soon, and I can go forward with everything I am learning. I appreciate you taking the time to respond to me, and hope your having a GOOD day!

  • I called my doctors office at 4:50 pm this afternoon, and they told me they were still waiting for a answer from the insurance company on my meds. I asked the nurse if the doctor could write me a prescription for the next day or two to get me by until it came through. She told me if my doctor did that then it would mess up my whole PA thats in the works for my Morphine Sulfate. She said they have spent HOURS on the phone this week with insurance to get this through{which I totally believe} she said she felt really horrible that I was going through this, and that the doctor felt really sorry too.

    I have not slept in days except little cap naps here and there, and was in such pain, I told her that I was making the choice at this point to break my pain contract. I KNOW this is a HUGE no no! But I also know this has been a very long and trying week. I was very fortunate that my grandson whom I have raised since he was a week and a half old has been visiting his grandmother since Monday. He comes home tomorrow. I can not take care of him in this shape!

    Tuesday a friend of mine tried to offer me one of her pain pills, and I refused to do it because I did not want to do anything to mess up my pain management contract. I called her after speaking with the doctors and she brought it over for me. I did take it. My pain level was cut in half within 45 mins. I KNOW this is wrong . It is the first time I have ever done anything like this. I did at least tell the nurse,and I know I may be let go from her office. I guess I will know tomorrow.

    My question I have now is... does anyone know from experience if in fact my doctor could have written a scrip for like two or three days worth of a long acting med without it messing up my PA that is pending? My insurance company was the one who told me yesterday{without me asking} my doctor could do that with no problem at all...even gave me a couple of medication options. I am totally lost and confused!

  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,846
    edited 08/13/2015 - 6:19 PM
    Your biggest problem is that you took some one else's pain medication

    That is about the biggest mistake you might have Nader. Though I have to give you credit for opening up and telling us all here.

    Deal with this issue before you have you deal with the rest

    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • iembracemypainiiembracemypain Posts: 18
    edited 08/13/2015 - 6:58 PM
    I knew it when I took it,and believe me although I am happy to be in not so much pain I feel very worried about what my doctor will do. I have never done anything wrong in the past,and have always been very honest with her so I guess I just pray for some compassion.

    I really should have just gone to the ER but I knew if I went there I would be there forever as my blood pressure was through the roof.186/122. I take three different blood pressure and heart medications and from past experiences of having to go to ER{ for things not even related to spine} if blood pressure is that high they focus on the BP not the reason I am there. I know not a good excuse but I own it.
  • aruzinskyaaruzinsky Posts: 40
    edited 08/14/2015 - 5:46 AM
    dilauro said:
    Your biggest problem is that you took some one else's pain medication

    That is about the biggest mistake you might have Nader. Though I have to give you credit for opening up and telling us all here.

    Deal with this issue before you have you deal with the rest
    I might be wrong but, I believe that she and her friend can go to jail for that, in which case, she should not have told us.

    I suspect that this website has a team of lawyers who can properly address that issue.

    Situations like this are addressed when necessary. I believe if anyone was trying to hide something, they would not post it in a public forum - Ron DiLauro, Spine-Health System Moderator
  • Had a long discussion with doctors office this am. She is not going to stop my medical treatment! They pretty much handed me a get out of jail free card with the understanding that I can NEVER let this happen again. Doctors office called insurance company at 10am and the PA appeal has still not been decided on. They said they will call them back after lunch,and if at that point it has not gone through we will see about coming up with alternative plan.

    I have been wracking my brains all morning on what possible personel item I have left of any value that I can sell to pay for the prescription myself! Like others here between not being able to work and raising my grandson without any assistance I live hand to mouth every month. The small nest egg I had put aside years ago is all gone...spent on lawyers in the court system protecting my grandchildren.I dont think this is viable option at this point.

    OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!! As I was typing this my insurance company just called and told me I been approved! I thanked her ever so much! Am now in happy tears trying to see while I type. She told me I will have to have it approved again in 6 months so for me to keep of the date and start the PA process before I ran out of medication. I will stay right on top of this so this hopefully will not happen again.

    I really want to thank everyone here. People who read and posted to this,and every member here. I have read so much here this past week and learned so much. Even just reading other peoples stories has made me feel less lonely. I hope everyone here has some extra "spoons" this weekend! GOING to get my meds.
  • "if anyone was trying to hide something, they would not post it in a public forum - Ron DiLauro"

    It seems to me that you are ""trying to hide" the fact that she and her friend can go to jail. If she and her friend can go to jail, she and everyone else on this forum should know it!
  • iembracemypainiiembracemypain Posts: 18
    edited 08/14/2015 - 6:38 AM
    Just saw your comment and scared me! Do you really believe that they monitor this website that closely and because of a moment of weakness my friend and I could go to jail for one pill???? The city I live in has multiple drug dealers on ever corner...Isnt that where our tax dollars on the war on drugs should go??? Not on disabled grandmother wanting a few hours of relentless pain relief??? I understand I did the wrong thing...it will never happen again but jail really???? If that is the case then so be it but I will be there alone as I would NEVER give up my friend who was only trying to help. I will let you know if god forbid you are right.
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,846
    to Identify and Report problems in those and other areas (including suicide discussions).

    We have exercised that right in the past and will continue to do so on a case by case situation.
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • Thank you for that eye opening lesson. So I guess I made TWO big mistakes. I have just lived my life as a very honest tell it like it is person. I guess sadly sometimes I have to learn to keep my mouth shut. That is saddening to me as I thought this was a place to come with like people whom you could be honest with. Trust me I knew no one was going to pat me on the back and say atta girl for the bad choice I made, but niether did I think I would risk going to jail by being honest . Here or with my doctor. That all being said I am still thankful for this forum..it has helped me alot and unless I get kicked out I still plan to use this place as one of my tools for dealing with chronic pain. Sorry to the people I offended. I still believe honesty is the best policy for me. Thanks again for YOUR honesty.
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,846
    edited 08/14/2015 - 8:38 AM
    I did not believe any action needed to be taken on my part.

    I also believe in honesty. So when a person does something wrong and is willing to say it in public, that they did it , to me that is a person who has integrity.

    Please, this is a site where people have come to open up and trust one another. I see this all the time. Discussions go on here, that may not even be exchanged between spouses and families. There is a level of understanding. And of trust and confidence.

    Some people may not see it that way and only look towards the negative.

    Stay around, I am sure you will find this site very rewarding.

    About the only topic I would not put on the public forums is when it comes to Disability and Workmen compensation cases. Especially if you use a real name. All email addresses are kept in strict confidence, so we would never give out that information, unless we had your approval.

    You always have to remember in a large online site, there are going to be negative people. Luckily, those are the type that show their true colors pretty quickly.
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • aruzinskyaaruzinsky Posts: 40
    edited 08/14/2015 - 9:44 AM
    iembracemypain said:
    Just saw your comment and scared me! Do you really believe that they monitor this website that closely and because of a moment of weakness my friend and I could go to jail for one pill???? The city I live in has multiple drug dealers on ever corner...Isnt that where our tax dollars on the war on drugs should go??? Not on disabled grandmother wanting a few hours of relentless pain relief??? I understand I did the wrong thing...it will never happen again but jail really???? If that is the case then so be it but I will be there alone as I would NEVER give up my friend who was only trying to help. I will let you know if god forbid you are right.
    I believe that is an unenforced law. The executive branch of government picks and chooses what laws to enforce. At Obama's whim, they can enforce it.
  • When my spinal issues became an everyday problem I searched the web and came across so many places that were just WRONG! People asking how to go abusing medication, asking to buy or sell medication etc. It was crazy! I never joined any of them and ended up just giving up. Now I dont even recall exactly how I this place last week but thankfully I did. I read and read and read.I finally felt I found the right place and joined. I even had to get new email address etc because I couldnt get in to mine as its been so long since I have used the computer except for to look up information or watch a show. Pretty much this computer is here for grandson.

    But this week has been a God send to me to be able to focus on something besides my pain. I was very lucky indeed that grandson was visiting other grandparents this week as I would have never been able to spend so much time here and as Im sure everyone knows a four year old and flare ups do not go so well together lol.

    Although I know alot about addictions I am still in the learning stages of chronic pain..meaning acceptance of limitations...rules..trying different methods avaliable for managing pain etc. Its ALOT. Wow. Now saying all this..my pain level is good right now so I will go and do some chores before my little bundle of energy comes home. Thank you again and I look forward to being a part of this community. Peace
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,846
    you seemed to have found the site that will help you.... And I know it can in so many ways.

    Just one word of caution. Your original thread was very important to you and you started to receive valuable comments. Unfortunately, the posts started to stray away from your topic and some were uncalled for. When this generally happens, we close the thread and if the originator wishes, they can open a new thread.

    As long as the follow on comments stay within guidelines and address some of your concerns, there should not be any problem. If this does not happen, I will close this thread, but I will be glad to open a new one on your behalf.
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • iembracemypainiiembracemypain Posts: 18
    edited 08/14/2015 - 7:41 PM
    I was concerned at a couple points here that we had gone way off my topic...and thought this thread might be closed. Maybe it should be???? But I would like to say to people out there.. That I called my insurance company along with my doctors and pharamacy. I spoke to all of them all week long....and I found being totally honest about my situation may have helped me??? But as I am fairly new to this it may have hurt me. I recall one day with insurance company asking me if I needed the prescription the way it was written....Dumb honest me..i said I dont know if this is what I need I can only say this has given me so much of my life back. I never have asked for meds, nor increases in my meds, I am just a grandma trying to do the right thing and manage my pain at same time.
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