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What is pain, how do I feel it?

dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,871
Pain is one word that almost anyone who reads a paper, magazine, looks online will hear something about that.

For medical patients, its the Pain Scale that is so often used to identify pain levels.

Does Pain Hurt?
Try to compare this items and relate them to the highest pain level you have experienced

  • - Broken Leg
    - Finger Smashed with a hammer
    - Stepping on a large nail
    - Root canal pain
    - Infected tooth
    - Lower back pain
    - Childbirth
    - Shoulder pain
    - Cervical pain
    - Deep Tissue Massage
    - Sciatica
    - A severe burn
    - Kidney Stones
    - Gallbladder attacks
    - Gout attacks
    - Recover from spinal surgery
    - Concussion
    - A stubbed toe
I could go on and on listing various pain points. The ones I described above fall both into the Acute and Chronic pain categories.
But I am always amazed at some responses I read regarding what pains someone. I have read where a patient was in the most terrible disastrous pain possible, couldn't sleep, eat, drive, but spent 10 hours in one day creating new threads and posting to other threads. You do have to wonder about people and their pain views.
Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com


  • Hope3HHope3 Posts: 752
    edited 10/22/2015 - 12:50 PM
    Hi Ron
    I was just wondering how do you come up with the ten hours? Hopefully it isn't the time logged on since I am one who forgets to log off. I also have a great son who created a table for me that I can write sitting or standing and I always write away from here and then log it. I get where you are coming from I for one read some of my posts I wrote when in serious pain and wonder who wrote them. The mind does not function right at all for me that is one of my major struggles right now.
    Just my thoughts.
  • Sheri76Sheri76 Michigan Posts: 497
    edited 10/22/2015 - 4:32 PM
    I don't log out either Sherri, but I'm thinking it's the activity of posting.

    The acute pain of kidney stones is something I pray I never endure again... Like having contractions from some alien crawling inside you trying to get out, and my body reacts by vomiting, hate losing control like that, but nothing I can do to stop it.... Until of course Drs give you meds to help pass the stone, pain meds, and antibiotics.... So thankfully, at its worst, only a day or less of pain..
  • SavageSavage United StatesPosts: 5,476
    ....pain scale, that is always a point of confusion for me. I think of it often, to wrap my head around how helpful it is in trying to be able explain my situations to my doctors best I can ...without hyperbole or minimizing.
    Since confusion is not a foreign state of mind for me.... :) ...I get a little stuck in some of this routine of my care.

    It's as you describe it, being asked ..."and 10 being the highest pain level you've ever experienced....."
    And since we all have had different experiences, it seems a poor way of determining pain level,...to me.

    A most unthinkable, unfortunate situation to someone, maybe experiencing war injuries and barely surviving, starving and dehydration, and waiting who knows how long for treatment...that could be their worse painful experience.
    So then a day of horrendous spinal issues they may be rated as a 7/10 ...since it can not competed with the war experience of near death.

    To me that would possibly be minimizing the pain of current situation and cause doctor to think condition more under control than it really is.

    For myself, most of my life I suffered from regular and most awful migraines. They were incapacitating....crawling around on floor in the bathroom, vomiting, visual disturbances, acute auditory symptoms...also, most aggravating messing with my mind..my ability to think, listen to others....sense of smell. It was another, very ugly world.

    Had my heart attack, and given nitro for acute chest pain that occurred afterwards. That would trigger a migraine.
    My headache specialist called in some of his students to have me repeat that I would rather have heart attack than trigger migraine.....as I refused the nitro for that reason.

    Doctor was explaining that is how awful migraine is and it's not just the headache helped with two aspirin.
    I felt so fortunate that my migraine specialist had migraines also, so he had no problem believing me and my symptoms, etc...
    He was most sympathetic and invested in my treatment. I was lucky.

    I try to explain to my PM Doctor that I rate pain according to my current conditions and my responses.
    For me a 10, ....I'm going to ER. I can no longer navigate my own home, symptoms and pain out of control.

    My thinking impaired. It feels as if angry, biting, hateful alien traveling inside of my body has full control.
    (I have always pictured alien, also....as Sheri above.....)
    I need to phone a friend or 911 for help.
    At ER I am lying in the floor of waiting room, writhing, and my friend has already obtained pan for my vomiting.

    I've had days, happened that I have signed onto this site, tried to read and my body heads towards non function.
    I toss iPad onto the couch...not signing out...later will sign out..maybe sign in again...trying to get control..,but impossible for me to read or post or be aware of anything but the pain and accompanying symptoms.

    Not recently, but spine pain has sent me to ER..and since now migraines better....worse pain has been the ischemia to my large intestine..horrific and unbelievable symptoms. Severe gut issues ever since.

    But I pause as I read what others have gone through, and or the multiple and painful surgeries, and different issues...so much worse than mine.
    I believe that saying of, ...if we saw everyone's issues, as we put all our problems out on a table, we would grab and take back our own.
    I know I would.

    Not sure if this was appropriate response to this thread, but I appreciate being able to share the above.
    Thank you!
    Spine-Health Moderator
    Please read my medical history at: Medical History

  • Sheri76Sheri76 Michigan Posts: 497
    I agree with you Savage, I would take my own pain back.... thinking maybe because I know I've survived it before, and fear of the unknown seems worse, which I'm sure other people go through much worse than I.

    With your large intestine pain, is that an abdominal pain? I don't have as much abdominal pain with IBS as I used to since menopause, but occasionally I still get rectal spasms. Dr's say it's from overactive bowels. Wakes me up in the middle of the night, like repeated waves of painful spasms, not constipation, although hoping a movement would stop the spasms. I can't just lay in bed, the pain is too overwhelming, so I try to sit in the bathroom, but because my bowels become so active with the spasms, it doesn't allow enough blood flow to my brain, start feeling like I'll pass out, so have to lay on the floor. The first few episodes I tried walking back to bed, thinking I'd make it to the bed, but after waking up on the hallway floor, I make sure I only crawl along the floor. I was fortunate to not crack my head open when I fell the last time. I had a nice green egg on the bridge of my nose the next day though...scary thing about living by yourself.
    I'm thankful I haven't had any episodes since my fusion surgery....I can barely get down on my knees, to crawl would be even worse; causes too much compression in lumbar region, at least that's what it feels like.
  • Hope3HHope3 Posts: 752
    edited 10/23/2015 - 3:28 AM
    You are right it doesn't matter how Ron came up with the 10 hr. thing like I said my brain is fogged right now.
    I understand what he is saying it is almost impossible to write here when you are in your worst.
    I also agree I would take my own pain not others on here that have and are going through the hell they are.
    This pain I am dealing with is something I struggle with it effects everything and never gives me peace. I just wish I could find a Doctor who would give me ideas or diagnose of what if going on. When you don't have that or they all have their different ideas it gets frustrating and I battle giving up.
    Anyway I wish each and everyone peace from the beast.
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,871
    The 10 hours I am talking about is people that actually stay on and are active during that time period!
    I have seen many of those folks here, ones that talk about their pain being the worst in the world, nothing helps, but they still spend on that time on the computer. Havent seen one of those recently.

    Not wall clock time, I am like many of you, stay logged on.
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • I didn't mean anything negative, just my brain working and glad to hear I am not the only one that does not log off.
    My son gave me a lecture about not signing off of web-sites not sure why, but it is easier for me.
    You made an excellent post about people stating their pain at those levels and they go on and on.
  • I don't like it when someone asks my pain level. About 3 weeks ago I'm pretty sure I had gout for about 2-3 days. I had to work 2 of those, I mostly work 8 hour shifts now. Both days at work I was severely limping and the second day I had to put on rubber boots to finish a job. I shouldn't have done that, I had to go home in my boots, sleep on the recliner, and the next day I had to just pull them off and screamed loud enough to be heard 2 miles down the road (of course I'm just kidding about the 2 miles). Those 2 days I'd like to say it was a 10 on the pain scale for most of the time. I mean I'm serious. And the worst part of it was I limped so bad that several days after that my back and legs were worse from the llimping. I think that is the most painful thing I've easily gone through it the last several years. I've never had a uric acid kidney stone that bad. I think most of the time when my pain doctor asks my pain level I just tell her 4-6. I have good days and bad days. I guess I'm just not good at judging that stupid chart.
    Rick Anderson. I live in middle Tennessee. I'm a former pro motocrosser, raced a car on dirt tracks for 5 years, played tennis in high school, now raising 2 kids and enjoying life to the best of my ability :)
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