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Horrendous Lower Back Pain Muscular Spasm

minunomminuno Posts: 5
edited 01/02/2016 - 11:31 PM in Lower Back Pain
On December 30th I moved house and helped carry a few of the lighter handheld items knowing that I have had lower back pain 3 months ago, which was diagnosed as muscular in nature I tried to limit my lifting to items that I felt comfortable in carrying in two hands such as small boxes and the like. On retiring to bed that night my back was a little sore but nothing out of what normally would happen to anyone. On waking the following morning I couldn't get out of bed at all, due to severe pain and extremely painful muscular spasms in my lower back ( approx in the right lower quadrant region but also near my coccyx ) , thankfully I was staying at family for new year and they had some diclofenac tablets and paracetamol to give me to help. I couldn't get out of bed for nearly two hours and was taken immediately to the local casualty dept.
an X ray was performed but the consultant radiologist was thankfully was reporting on all x rays that morning, told me an X ray was useless for this type of injury and an MR I was the only way to diagnose what was going on.
I was sent home with a short cause of Diazapam 5mg x 3 daily and Codeine phosphate 30th, to be honest neither of these have helped at all, I'm still in terrible pain and can hardly walk or get out of bed in the morning without the spasm knocking me back to a supine position immediately.
I am very worried , as I live alone in a house were all my furniture and bed etc is still in pieces as the removal firm left it, I can't put these together at the moment as my pain is excruciating.
I have had lower back pain in the past but this is on a Completely different level and shows no signs of improving even 4 days in. Please help, any advice as to how to control this pain as it isn't even been touched by my current regime.

I live in the UK

here's hoping Wayne

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  • Hi minuno -

    I hope this is a short-lived injury, but the doc is right about the MRI. Did you get set up to have that done? I'm sorry I don't have much advice to offer. Setting up doctor appts and getting the imaging studies done, etc, is always a game of hurry up and wait. Meanwhile, you suffer in pain.

    A word of caution - if your doctors find out that you took somebody else's pain medication, they might refuse to treat you with pain meds themselves. It is a very serious matter these days.

    I hope you get this figured out soon.
    Scoliosis and other problems at every level.

    2013: C-5 to C-6 ADR
    2014: C-5 to C-6 fusion/revision of failed ADR
    2014: Total hip replacement, right

    Cancelled multi-level fusion - fear being more crippled and in more pain.
  • Sorry to hear about your experience Minuno. It sounds very stressful to be in that pain while your house is unpacked.
    Maybe you could see if a friend or family member can help you by coming and unpacking stuff.

    I too am experiencing nasty lower back pain and have been quite debilitated for the past few days. Just as you it really hurts whenever I try and get up or down from bed. That is the worst. I wonder if you are taking enough pain relief if you are just taking pain killers your family had on hand. I obtained some Voltaren which is a high strength pain relief for back pain. I also obtained some Deep Heat which I rub into the are of the pain and it heats up the region and relaxes the muscles. Gosh the deep heat feels so relieving to put on. I am in NZ so I am not sure whether these are localised brand names or not. But given the level of pain you are experiencing I wonder if you could do with more pain management relief. I just went to the chemist and asked them whatever I could do to relieve the lower back pain and they referred me to those two products.

    I hope you experience some relief soon .

  • Thanks for the replies, I am calling In to my Doctors tomorrow because basically I cannot cope with this amount of discomfort, the analgesics I am taking ain't taking the edge off my pain ( prescribed and despensed at my A/E department due to my doctors being closed until tomorrow. It couldn't have happened at a worse time for me. I live alone and cannot even lift a kettle to make a cup of tea without the pain. To be honest I wish they would admit me to hospital until the pain improves as I find it I possible to do anything. All my stuff is still packed , my beds in pieces and I haven't got the strength or pain tolerance to put even my bed together. Last time i had similar but milder back pain they prescribed twice the strength of Codeine and the pain then wasn't half as severe as this is currently. Here's hoping they can help me tomorrow.
  • Sounds awful. Where are you sleeping if your bed is not made up. If you are able to make it to pharmacist without too much difficulty I would definitely recommend getting something like a deep heat cream to apply. It doesn't take all the pain away but I definitely feel like it soothes in a way that the pain killers don't. Or see if someone can bring you some. Im playing the waiting game with my doctors too which sucks. Closed until tomorrow. One more day. ...
  • I am actually staying at my partners house, which is a help but I really need to find out what is going on with this, have managed to get into the doctors this morning , in England you have to phone at 8 am to get one of a handful of appointments, usually a handful are available (luckily I've got one). I live 60 miles from were I am staying so will be drove back llater today. Hopefully I can get in and more importantly out of the car at the surgery. If your anything like me getting out of bed , standing up and any of the things people take for granted fills me with apprehension before attempting. Nothing has improved overnight pain wise. Thank you.
  • Its good that you have a partner looking after you at the moment. Gosh sounds hard to get a doctor. The perils of living in a country with too many people. I hope the doctor goes well for you.
    I have worked out a process to make getting out of bed easier by minimising the use of my core. I roll onto my right side, hang my feet over the bed, and then put my right hand on the bed and then the left hand and then push my torso up with my hands unti it is straight and then stand using my feet while my back is straight sitting on the bed.
    My back has gotten a bit better today thank god and I am getting less of the sharp pains. Feeling more of a constant pressure on my lower back now and an occasional sharp pain but much less frequent.

    I hope you see some improvement soon, that the doctors can provide some reassurance, and that things get better for you.
  • As an update ( sorry for the delay ) , it is no approx 6 weeks since my last post on the subject of my  back pain and spasm, here is an update. The spasm in my back has practically gone away of its own accord with time and rest and basically not lifting any heavy articles since I had my problem. I had an MRI at the local hospital around 9 days ago and am waiting on the results of that.
    although my back spasm has been alleviated my pain has altered completely, I now have tremendous sharp pains the full length of my right leg, which is particularly painful hind the knee, in the calf and thigh muscles. As I type this I have this pain and it is nearly as debilitating as the spasms. I have had this pain for two weeks , and through reading on this site I'm guessing I most probably have Sciatica now.
    the pain as others have said is really severe, particularly in the middle of the night , I am woken up by it every night at 3 - 4am with really sharp pains in the right leg, I try hot water bottles to ease it but it has little effectiveness to be honest. Yesterday I went to my doctors here in the UK and asked if. Could try something else

    Gabapentine 100mg  three times were prescribed.

    ive had three tables so far and nothing has happened , my pain is still as bad as it always is?, I'm guessing that my spine has been damaged in some way and is pressing on the sciatic nerve leading to the radiation of this discomfort, and boy is it severe.

    can I ask what does of Gabapentine should I take and how long should I be on 100mg please?. I'll ask my doctor to increase it?. I'm also taking codeine and paracetamol 60/500 but am limiting these doe to constipation , thanks for any further advice.

  • yeah, that does sound like sciatica - I would give the gabapentine some more time to take an effect; I have been on it before and it was pretty good but it did take a week or so before I started feeling any effect from it. Have you asked your GP to refer you for PT? I have ongoing and previous problems with herniated discs and sciatica and PT can make a big difference. 

    If after a week or so you're still not getting any relief with the gabapentin, ask your GP what other options there might be - I have tried a whole load of different things and am currently taking amitriptyline and naproxen which seems like it might be starting to have an effect (only been 3 days so hoping in a couple more it will be having a noticeable effect) 
  • PlumbTuckeredOutPlumbTuckeredOut Philadelphia, PAPosts: 325
    Gabapentin, available in the states as Neurontin does not work immediately but takes a while to build up in your system.  And 100 mg 3x a day is not much at all.  It can take some time for the medication to help because you will need to get on the correct dose for the correct amount of time BUT, now you know there is a good possibility that this may help you!  It can cause drowsiness and increased appetite.  I had no help from gabapentin but find its little brother, Lyrica to be helpful.

    I had sciatica for years and it's an insidious pain!  I used to get the sensation that a small dog was peeing on my leg because all of a sudden my leg would feel warm and damp!  For me, a TENS unit was beneficial.  TENS units are available over the counter and easy enough to figure out.  They interrupt the nerve impulses your nerves are sending down your leg.  They don't get rid of the pain but they definitely help you experience less of it.

    Years ago I moved to a place where I knew NO one.  I have to admit it was overwhelming and it took some time before I felt healthy enough to unpack.  I gave myself a break, lessened the guilt about not unpacking, and went out and got a dog!  Everyone says, "Don't get a dog right away when you move!"  I say, "It's already chaos so why not add to it!"  The goofiness of a puppy relaxed me, helped me meet people who eventually came over and helped me unpack!

    When you don't feel well be careful not to put too much pressure on yourself!

    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less traveled by...... (Robert Frost)
    I still don't know if I should have taken the one that said, "Caution! Dead End" (Me)
  • PlumbTuckeredOutPlumbTuckeredOut Philadelphia, PAPosts: 325
    I forgot one other suggestion.  Some people get relief from spasms by drinking tonic water.  It contains a small amount of quinine for the spasms.  For a long time it was possible to buy quinine tablets over the counter for spasms and cramps.  This is no longer possible but a doctor can prescribe them.  You may want to try giving tonic water a try first.  I find the stuff distasteful so I add lemon or lime.  And I know others add other sorts of beverages.  I don't suggest that when you're trying to alleviate spasms.

    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less traveled by...... (Robert Frost)
    I still don't know if I should have taken the one that said, "Caution! Dead End" (Me)
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