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chronic lower back pain 2 years after l4-l5 fusion

tinamhoranttinamhoran Posts: 1
edited 01/22/2016 - 4:42 AM in Lower Back Pain
I had a fusion done at l4 l5 two years ago. I am still in chronic pain, sitting too long, bending over is hard just everything hurts it, ugh. Although I had an mri done yesterday and it looks to be normal, no bulging or anything so why is it still hurting!! Thank you

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  • waterlillywwaterlilly Posts: 18
    edited 01/22/2016 - 5:36 AM
    I had L5 S1 done 2005 and it worked great for me.but I have had 5 back surgeries since.the latest one on L3,4 they are calling it a failed back surgery. I am in worse pain.I am now seeing a pain management Dr, Who has help me a lot.I'm so sorry you are going Thur this.We as patients have to take the matter in our own hand and be persistent.
  • I'm sorry to hear that you are going through this. I have also been diagnosed with and am in treatment for Failed Back Surgery Syndrome in addition to other issues related to my back. Fusion at L5 S1 and chronic, debilitating pain ever since, permanent nerve damage, additional herniation, arthritis, scar tissue etc. Working with a great team in pain management but not solely relying on medications has helped me find the best balance.  I have been advised by two neurosurgeons that this is a life-long, chronic condition so I do whatever my PM doctors and nurses recommend, follow my PM contract to the letter as not to jeopardize being removed from the program, work with my masseuse weekly, heat and ice nightly, injections for the nerve pain and SI joint pain, PT, aqua therapy Yoga and meditation.  Anything that provides even a little relief I add to my program.  Best of luck in finding what will work for you.
  • JessaBalJessaBal Oakland, CAPosts: 2
    I also had a spinal fusion at L5-S1 in 2004 and still had chronic pain after the surgery, it helped some but it's been a battle. I then was in a car accident in 2010 which made my pain 100x worse had another MRI and it turned out I had an annular tear in L4-L5, I got a epidural which went horribly wrong and made it even worse. Eventually my team of Doctors determined that I have over reactive nerves so basically when anything flares up around them my body just goes crazy. My neurosurgeon decided to place a neurostimulator which has helped for awhile until the last month where I just found out that L4-L5 disc has deteriorated even more and now I'm back to square one. It can be very frustrating but getting a really good team of Doctors has been very beneficial for me. I never would of found out about this nerve problem without them! 
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