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Precious BamaPPrecious Bama Posts: 34
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:21 AM in Degenerative Disc Disease
Has anyone been to Laser Spine Institute, Tampa, Fl? I must have put my phone no somewhere on line and today they called and said they could fix my back without fusion, cage, etc. He said it would be very small incision and would not be put to sleep and would cost $30,000. I told him my insurance would not cover me in Florida. it just kind of upset me; these type surgeries require fusion when disc are deteriorated and collapsed is that not correct.


  • Please be aware of what you are getting into with LSI. I had 2 procedures with them with negative results. Both done within 1 month of each other. I paid $15,000 for both of them. Two months after my surgeries I was right back where I started with absolutely no relief. I had a 3rd procedure here in Las Vegas with Dr. EDITED and I am finally pain free for the first time in 25 years. I played golf this past week and walked most of the course which I had not been able to do in all that time. I feel LSI should refund my money since I did not receive what I paid for. Instead I will fight back by giving my negative responses to those that need to know the down side of this most expensive venture. I did not get what I paid for and am $15,000 poorer for buying the "Bill of Goods" they promised.

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  • I have been to the Laser Spine Institure in Tampa for an informational seminar as we have vacation home in St Petersburg. I'm an RN and was very impressed at first but then they really didn't work with me once I left. I got no call back about money and insurance coverage as my insurance would have to approve the procedure as an out of state procedure due to the face that I live and work in the northeast. As an RN I can only give my opinion about what I saw and was told. I don't know if I would go there but I definately would go for the laser surgery as it's so much less invasive. I have been searching for other sites that perform this surgery as I don't plan on having any surgical procedures until next year at the earliest. Hopefully I'll be retired and on Medicare with a supplementary policy to cover the costs and also because I'm hoping to have it done in a hospital setting which Medicare would require. Somehow along the way I got dissilusioned with the Spinal Institute but my husband thinks they're the best thing since sliced bread. I'm not going into all my diagnoses here but they're extensive and I'm now 65. My RN signals just went up at the way they seemed to go first to the people who had insurance that would easily pay or were paying out of pocket. Now this could be nothing but I'm a Nursing Home Administrator so I deal with payment issues all the time so maybe I was just more sensitive about the way they treated me. I haven't had any kind of surgical intervention yet and hope I can get be without it because of the seriousness of it but my MD and NP have been on me to take some action so I have been receiving pain reduction treatment via injections of a steroid and pain me in the OR with conscious sedation. It helps but it doesn't last more that a few months so I'm still taking pain meds and muscle relaxants. Please take my post with a grain of salt as it is only my opinion. Hope this helps you.
  • capdilccapdil Posts: 2
    edited 01/15/2013 - 11:08 AM
    Precious Bama said:
    Has anyone been to Laser Spine Institute, Tampa, Fl? I must have put my phone no somewhere on line and today they called and said they could fix my back without fusion, cage, etc. He said it would be very small incision and would not be put to sleep and would cost $30,000. I told him my insurance would not cover me in Florida. it just kind of upset me; these type surgeries require fusion when disc are deteriorated and collapsed is that not correct.
    I guess this is a pattern! It's all over the news that a famous wrestling star (I don't think we can put names right?) just sued the laser spine institute for $50 MILLION for being sold a laser spine surgery when other docs were saying he needed a spinal fusion. Who mixes up spinal fusion with laser surgery?? They have so many lawsuits out there - in one, they were sued because they had the guy fly down from another state just to look at his MRI report when he arrived and give him an epidural steroid injection, which he says he could have had near his home if they had looked at the MRI before he purchased airline tickets, like they were supposed to. I think that guy had to be fixed by a different doc, too. Just google them and lawsuit... Yikes.
    Kolby Banks
  • Brescia Bama:

    I spoke with them on the phone a few years ago and received the same response. My older 50's intuition told me to run like hell. Too many red flags up front.

    Ironically, this question is posted on the Forum more than once each year. The answers are similar. You have to ask yourself why an institution does not accept insurance, etc.

    I did not use their services so my response/opinion is based soley on intuition. However, knowing what I know about spinal issues, medical intervention and payment for service (insurance), the LSI is "off the radar."

    Spinal surgery is a very significant event. Logically, the administrative process "should" match that significance. LSI's procedures/processes/and perhaps practices are cause for concern.

  • This wrestling star could not of been very smart ! 1st. If he agreed to fly down there just to have them read his mri when he could of mailed them the mri and could of insisted to talk to them about the mri results on the phone before going there,
    His stupidity cant be a lawsuit ,

    2 Even if he had the money to want to see them in person and consult with them in person about his mri that was his choice,

    3. If he already been told he needed fusion by other spine specialists but he did not want open spine surgery and he had the money to blow to give them a try to see if there procedure can maybe save him from having fusion the risk realy becomes his as i am sure they never give any guarantee !

    So i dont know who this wrestling star is so i have to guess he is 1 of the fake wrestling guys who must of got hit on the head by a chair too many times,

    He had the cash and he was willing to risk it to maybe get out of having fusion !

    I sent my mri to them few years ago, They called me and i just had fusion showing on the mri and ADR,
    Because my unresolved nerve issue i was curious what they would say !

    Soon as they started talking about removing the screws so they can get in there to do some weird stuff as i was not even fused yet i said no way ,
    I realised i was not talking to a doctor on the phone he was more like a car salesman !
    Then i realised he selling me something for a comision just like a car salesman and no i dont have 30.000 dollars to give them for a big maybe it will help,

    I like the idea of the laser surgery sure with less damage, But i think these procedures they can fix are the most simple ones so sure they will have some people with good results,

    From what i know there are a few regular spine doctors out there now who can do the same thing and in a hospital seting and with insurance covering it not out of pocket,
    I just had this conversation with a good friend of mine who has cervical issue and he will only allow the laser aproach as i think a doctor in ohio i believe did his friends and good results,
    Flexicore ADR 2004 resulting nerve damage l4l5 Fusion 2006 same level, 2009 hardware removal with lami !
    2012 scs implant ,
  • The lawsuit claims that he lost out on $50 million worth of job opportunities, which considering his age, I am kind of doubtful, unless of course they're trying to recreate the good old days back when they were popular. LOL. I read the article yesterday. I have to admit though, i was a big fan back in the day LOL.
  • alexhurtingaalexhurting Posts: 1,991
    edited 01/16/2013 - 3:00 AM
    Well i never was a fan of fake wrestling , Grown man acting like fools pretending to be some super hero pretending they fighting to entertain,
    I do watch ultimate fighting and you cant fake that kind of real beat down, Tito had fusion and still went back to fighting,
    these guys are in such good shape even fusion dont stop them,

    Bottom line is if i had the funds i would have searched out laser surgery options to avoid major surgery such as fusion or ADR , If they can do brain surgery with laser i am sure some issues with spine can be done just the same as long as spine is stable and thats all it needs,,

    Some can be saved by such treatment and some cant its that simple, Do rich people find beter options then who cant afford it , Of course they do ! And if they blow 100 grand on laser treatment or other and it fails they find another specialist and have fusion or ADR by the best doctors, Money becomes not a big issue to some as it would put some of us in the poor house,
    Thats if we even have the option of pulling 30 grand out of our ass for laser surgery for these facility,

    Flexicore ADR 2004 resulting nerve damage l4l5 Fusion 2006 same level, 2009 hardware removal with lami !
    2012 scs implant ,
  • Wow.. so glad I just read this because we are about to move back to tampa and IF I get referred to this place now I know, not good.
  • Alex, that's interesting about Tito, I didn't know that. The old fake wrestling was basically i was still a kid and then my grandma liked it so i kept it up with her for a while, even went to see the "ultimate Warrior" live with her, she was from the "old country" and loved that sort of thing. LOL.

    I like the MMA, I haven't really kept up on it recently but i have to admit, my favorite fighter was Fedor Emelianenko. he was a blast to watch!
  • What is MMA ? Ufc is the ultimate fighting which is as real as it gets, I personaly dont care for Tito, but ice man he 1 badass was always fun to watch buterbean , the other dude from hawai and few others as well,
    Tank is just simply crazy and fights as that is all he knows from bar fights and street fighting he just an animal not sportman like ,

    Boxing also is on top of the list , If all of us could overcome pain like these guys we be in good shape,
    Flexicore ADR 2004 resulting nerve damage l4l5 Fusion 2006 same level, 2009 hardware removal with lami !
    2012 scs implant ,
  • MMA is mixed martial arts, UFC is OK, If you like UFC, you should check out Pride Fighting, a lot of UFC fighters, fight there too. What do you think of Mark Kerr, at one point he was great, i remember one fight in UFC where he KO'd a guy in 27 seconds. He also fought in Pride. That's where Fedor fought, Dana White tried to get him over to the UFC, but he wouldn't go, he's retired now, but man he was incredible, i think he lost once, and that was by a technicality because the ref stopped the fight because he was bleeding.

  • Is the laser and spine institute in Tampa related to the one in palm beach gardens. Because that's where I went and ended up having a "trial" study flexicore disk replacement L5-S1 in 2004 and since then I have been screwed and worse off. I have had multiple surgeons recently tell me I should have never had disk replacement surgery. Now I'm all screwed up and on a lot of medication And meds for nerve damage which now I have had seizures BC of. I'm pissed and wnt to sue someone.
  • Does the Back Institute's procedure really work? And why isn't the procedure being done in other offices? They claim that there is no cutting of muscle or bone. Takes an hour and is closed with a Band-Aid. They don't accept my insurance, so it will be a major decision to have the discectomy done there.
  • itsautonomicitsautonomic LouisianaPosts: 1,794
    I may get in trouble for this but I would seriously investigate any claims made by that inst. yourself, specifically malpractice suits. Some of their surgeons came from another place touting that and he had many, many malpractice suits and other shady dealings. It may have helped some , but just educate yourself first.
    Do your due dilegence, trust you know your body and question everything if it does not fit. Advocate for yourself and you will be suprised what will be revealed trusting your body and instinct.
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