has been impossible to date, since I can't turn my head to breathe. but, in time. meanwhile, wondering - are any strokes better? or do some stress your neck out more? I realize this is an obscure question, but wondering if anyone out there has some knowlege ...
ACDF C5-7 February 20 '08, to address DDD, herniated discs, bone spurs. 5 hrs of surgery, 11 wks in Aspen collar, 18 wks disability. 2009 has not been pain free, but I am so, so, far ahead of where I was!
I had a C5-C6 fusion 2.5 years ago. Within 3 months, I was doing aqua exercises as part of my physical therapy. I concentrated on side strokes and even dog paddle, where I would hold my neck rigid and not turn. I was in massive pain back then and it was extremely difficult.
Fast forward to now, where I still do swimming at the San Francisco Bay Club. I still do not turn my neck, always holding my head above water and paying the speed and efficiency penalty. Of course, I am not so worried about speed and efficiency so this doesn't bother me too much.
By the way, when I started experiencing extra heavy pain that prompted me to go into surgery, swimming might have been a part of it. I was swimming daily in the late summer of 2006, which I think exacerbated my disc that I herniated 17 years earlier. It's just a theory and I could be wrong.
I love swimming, but given that we both had neck fusions, I would be careful about strokes that require serious neck movement. I now run and play soccer, but I have not had the courage to swim like this since surgery.
Cheers, Mate
acdf C5-C6, removed a bone spur, February 2006, titanium metal plate, 2 screws.
I love swimming too, spent much of my life in a pool. People always mention it for after back surgery, but I'm thinking it may not be an apres-neck surgery activity. I would love to run again too - glad to hear that you are up and running!
ACDF C5-7 February 20 '08, to address DDD, herniated discs, bone spurs. 5 hrs of surgery, 11 wks in Aspen collar, 18 wks disability. 2009 has not been pain free, but I am so, so, far ahead of where I was!
Hello,
Many years ago I wore a neck brace having had a car accident so I understand a bit of your plight, you could try side stroke this would allow you to breath just at the surface of the water if you can support the weight of your head without subsequent pain.
You could lie on your back with a float or two on your torso to assist buoyancy and use a breast-stroke leg kick, have you asked at the hospital they usually have PT that are used to helping patients swim, or the bath themselves will have swimming instructors that may be able to help or ask the Nation Swimming Association, just an Email.
I have to do more non impact stuff now, so as you say the running and golf have had to go.
Good luck and keep going.
Take care. John
DDD.1990 Laminectomy, Failed spine fusion, hartshill rectangle RLS. 3 stents
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Which reduces head movement. This is a "swimmers snorkel" made by a company called FINIS.
I use this in combination with a pool bouy (leg float) for doing freestyle, and I use it with a kickboard, kicking with my face down in the pool.
I've found this system (this snorkel and swim goggles) forces water up my nose however, so I had to use a nose clip as well. So I'm pretty geeked out when I swim.
My main exercise in the pool has been a water walking program, but I'm 3.5 months post lumber surgery and have added in some regular swimming, which gives a nice stretch to my back.
I agree with the others that you should check with your surgeon and/or PT about what would be right for your situation, but this might be an option you could run by them.
Advanced spondylosis at C4-5, C5-6, C6-7
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Central stenosis with cord flattening at C4-5, C5-6
Disk herniation at L5/S1. Conservative treatment for more than 1.5 years, with multiple ESI's, PT, etc. Microdiscectomy on May 19, 2008.
I would suggest swimming with a snorkel....it's what I do...no surgeries to date, but major c spine issues that potentially could involve "major major surgeries", per my DR. I just use the garden variety snorkel, but understand there are front mounted snorkels available which I think some folks mention here...It seems odd initially, as all one sees is the bottom of the pool..but it is small sacrifice for the joys of swimming for me.. I don't use a float board as it is too complicated to do so with the snorkel and it arches the lumbar spine for me. I am stopping often to take water out of my goggles, but for the love of swimming, I'll do what it takes...
There's a master's swim group that uses my pool in the morning, and there is another woman who swims with a snorkel each day..Swim teams actually practice with them as it helps them focus on their strokes instead of their breathing..
Funny how we are not given help or directions after spinal surgeries-PT for a while then out.I write this stuff so I can "hear"myself say it.Imagine the anatomy of a fusion.One disc is gone and strain of activity is placed on disc's above and below fusion.Anything that causes a lot if turning,twisting,pulling will stress not only fusion site but discs above and below.Which puts us at risk for another disc herniation. I am 4 years post cervical fusion-and still practicing acceptance of limitations.The only swimming we should be doing should not involve our head in the water-absolutely no diving{my neuro guy actually told me that one}-dog paddling or using a kick board is the best.I know how hard it is when you love a sport- I have given up many-but am trying to do what I can and be grateful that things turned out well.Have had 3 spinal surgeries and am just now learning-don't want any more-so I am trying to walk-yoga with limitations-recumbant bike.Not my choice of exercise,but what my body can do. Good Luck
L4-5 laminectomy
C4-5 fusion 2005
L4-5 fusion-2007
To JaneEllen...wondering if you've tried swimming with a snorkel...so then your head stays above the water/just at the water line....Might that work for you? I can imagine how scary it must be to try things again after surgery....Every day I have to judge whether I feel well enough to swim and I haven't had surgery yet..just a really, really awful neck.....
I had no idea when I started posting how long I'd be attached to this site! But always something new - may need to just toss my pride and snorkel through the pool. I am already carrying pillows to meetings, and a couple times on the phone I've had to let anxious people know I would look at their email when I got off the floor. but I hear you janeellen, I want to save those remaining discs (and, never, ever, have surgery again - ugh).
ACDF C5-7 February 20 '08, to address DDD, herniated discs, bone spurs. 5 hrs of surgery, 11 wks in Aspen collar, 18 wks disability. 2009 has not been pain free, but I am so, so, far ahead of where I was!
When we have something that limits us, its great that we can find ways to workaround that.
I too can not swim because of the cervical fusions.
I used to love to swim, but since I cant move my head side to side, it sort of limits it.
So, I swim, face down in the water, continue my stroke until I need to breathe!
I used a swim float for a while, but I guess I felt strange doing that. SO, I did go over to the back stroke, but never loved it.
A Snorkel , I like it. Can you use it with or without a mask?
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you can use a snorkel without a mask or with a mask. your neck stays still. if overhand crawl hurts the neck just do underwater dog paddle. at least its moving
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It's been a while since I've been on the site...I swim with a snorkel and slide the attachment down so it is hooked onto my swim goggles. This may not be the best way to do this, however. I have seen some swimmers use a front mounted snorkel which attaches to swim goggles a little easier. They are about 30.00 or so, I understand. I have not had to use a mask, for which I am thankful. Somehow wearing the swim goggles makes me feel as if I am still in the best shape possible! Delusional,I'm sure, but I'll take it... It took me the longest time to convince myself that I could move through the water well with a snorkel, but it works..I am swimming almost as quickly as I did before. So, if you love swimming, I would suggest trying it...