the,fact i had that with neck and depression / attention problems makes me wonder if i have Fibro..
And my mom has TOS...
C2-3: Mild right facet joint degenerative changes and right neuroforaminal stenosis.
C3-4: Minimal diffuse discosteophyte bulge and mild central cananl stenosis.
C4-5: Mild disc height loss with central annular fissure. Small broad-based left paracentral disc protrusion. Moderate central canal stenosis-the disc protrusion abuts and mildly flattens the left ventral surface of the spinal canal.
C5-6: Disc desiccation with mild height loss.
Diffuse discosteophyte bulge and uncovertebral joint hypertrophy, moderate central canal stenosis-the discosteophyte bulge mildly flattens the ventral surface of the spinal cord. Severe neuroforaminal stenosis bilaterally, right greater than left.
4/15/2010 Pro-Disc-C C5-C6
Medical science can't do anything for Fibro other than treat the symptoms. The anti-inflammatories and anti-depressants and muscle relaxers used to treat spine issues are the same remedies used for Fibro. I think the only difference in treatment would be to undergo Trigger Point Release therapy. You might try it & see if you feel better.
Regards,
Jasro
^ Ok I understand, But honestly I find that intimidating or maybe its b/c SUICIDE is in caps..
But if you think it does more positive then negative its cool..
Only thing is since its in your signature everytime you post its a "SUICIDE REMINDER"
C2-3: Mild right facet joint degenerative changes and right neuroforaminal stenosis.
C3-4: Minimal diffuse discosteophyte bulge and mild central cananl stenosis.
C4-5: Mild disc height loss with central annular fissure. Small broad-based left paracentral disc protrusion. Moderate central canal stenosis-the disc protrusion abuts and mildly flattens the left ventral surface of the spinal canal.
C5-6: Disc desiccation with mild height loss.
Diffuse discosteophyte bulge and uncovertebral joint hypertrophy, moderate central canal stenosis-the discosteophyte bulge mildly flattens the ventral surface of the spinal cord. Severe neuroforaminal stenosis bilaterally, right greater than left.
4/15/2010 Pro-Disc-C C5-C6
I applaud you for listing these numbers. On this board we read many people who cannot get approval of their insurance company to cover needed surgery, people without insurance, people who have lost their jobs, & people who still live with terrible pain on a daily basis. Who's to know if these people feel overwhelmed, or shameful, or guilty that they are no longer able to care for their families. Sometimes people feel that they are a burden on the family, and some might think that they're worth more dead than alive, i.e. life insurance. Pain & stress can do strange things to people. Maybe making that call doesn't releave the pain, but a person can still get comfort, and possibly be pointed in a direction that can offer relief/assistance in the other areas. Keep up the good work.
Rusty
felt it was important enough to post those numbers. There are a number of responsible members here who do the same, as well as the moderators.
JKDE302, I guess I really cant understand why you objected. This is a extra service that we try to cover all of Spine-Health with. If you still have a problem with it, please contact me offline
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I should let JKDE speak for himself - but I don't think he was taking "issue" with it. He was merely questioning how "talking about it" would help. I've questioned that myself.
It's been my experience (after calling one of these lines 5 years ago) that they don't *just* talk about it. They scan for your phone number, get your address, send the police, and lock you up in a psych ward for a 3 day minimum.
They take your medications & personal affects away from you, force you to join group therapy, give you your meds ONE at a time (ie. won't give ibuprofen AND vicodin at the same time - you can argue all you want that you're familiar with your pain and what it takes to get ahead of it - they won't listen) - so you suffer more physical pain...while withdrawing from nicotine if you're a smoker.
At the end of this *wonderful* experience.... they send you a bill for $1,000's of dollars for your *lovely* stay. If you weren't serious about killing yourself when you called...you might be by the time they're done with you.
AND for the amusement of your utter-total-disgust - you can listen to the "long timers" (juveniles) sit around a table and compare which of them has the most slash scars on their wrists...because it's all some kind of an attention getting game to them. You'll want to PUKE.
Bitter? You bet your sweet bum I am.
Stupid? Not anymore.
Advice? Don't call a suicide line - go to the ER instead for a stronger pain med (maybe anxiety med too) to get you through your darkest hours...and help you to think more clearly.
That's how "it is" in OHIO, anyway.
Regards,
Jasro
and just being bitter.
May I suggest in the future you keep to the objectives of Spine-Health.
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I guess you had to "be there".
Truth isn't always pretty.
Highest Regards,
Jasro
A Rheumatologist is the most qualified medical professional to determine if you have Fibromyalgia or not. It may be worth your while to see one if you wish to investigate it further. You can PM me if you'd like - but I'm kinda radical.
The depression can be from your *circumstance*. It could also be caused by one of your medications. The attn problems could be from meds as well. It's been my experience that depression causes attn. problems. Have you talked to your doc about it? Questioning meds with your doc (first) would be less expensive than seeing a Rheumy (to start with).
Hope someone else can answer your question instead of completely changing your original post into a different one about suicide phone lines.
Very Best Regards,
Jasro
Entire reply removed by moderator paulgla. Inappropriate.
C2-3: Mild right facet joint degenerative changes and right neuroforaminal stenosis.
C3-4: Minimal diffuse discosteophyte bulge and mild central cananl stenosis.
C4-5: Mild disc height loss with central annular fissure. Small broad-based left paracentral disc protrusion. Moderate central canal stenosis-the disc protrusion abuts and mildly flattens the left ventral surface of the spinal canal.
C5-6: Disc desiccation with mild height loss.
Diffuse discosteophyte bulge and uncovertebral joint hypertrophy, moderate central canal stenosis-the discosteophyte bulge mildly flattens the ventral surface of the spinal cord. Severe neuroforaminal stenosis bilaterally, right greater than left.
4/15/2010 Pro-Disc-C C5-C6
Back to the thread topic..
Anyone else out there have TMJ at anypoint in life followed by neck pain years later?
C2-3: Mild right facet joint degenerative changes and right neuroforaminal stenosis.
C3-4: Minimal diffuse discosteophyte bulge and mild central cananl stenosis.
C4-5: Mild disc height loss with central annular fissure. Small broad-based left paracentral disc protrusion. Moderate central canal stenosis-the disc protrusion abuts and mildly flattens the left ventral surface of the spinal canal.
C5-6: Disc desiccation with mild height loss.
Diffuse discosteophyte bulge and uncovertebral joint hypertrophy, moderate central canal stenosis-the discosteophyte bulge mildly flattens the ventral surface of the spinal cord. Severe neuroforaminal stenosis bilaterally, right greater than left.
4/15/2010 Pro-Disc-C C5-C6
formal warnings will be sent out and this thread shut down.
It seems that sometimes newer members forget what the forum rules are and choose not to follow them.
This does not seem to be the case for people who have been here a while
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"In his eyes we're all the same Someday we'll all have perfect wings, Don't laugh at me."
"That there's none so blind as those who will not see."
The information provided by members of Spine-Health should never be considered as formal medical advice. It is recommendations based on member's personal experiences only.
This can vary from person to person, so do not take comments as medical facts or rules