Blood Pressure And Pain

Blood Pressure And Pain

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Blood Pressure And Pain

I'm having a bad day lol. Went in for my second visit to my rhemy this morning and my BP was 170/90. This is much higher than it normally is.

After letting her know my pain level has been worse the last month she upped my pain meds and told me no more ibuprophen or nsaids that raise BP. I ended up with sulindac ( does not raise BP ).

A year ago my wieght was at 300lbs with out of control diabetes and eating ibuprophen like candy and I was never that high.

Now my wieght is 220 @ 6'1. I excercise. Eat a low carb diet and try and be healthy. It seems like the harder I try the worse this is getting.

I work in the mornings and early afternoons ( Network/IT consultant) and take no meds for pain during these times. I just suck it up and work.

Is the pain causing the bp to go up that high? Is this normal in chronic pain. Am I going to have to be more aggressive with pain management to get that bp back down to normal levels?

I am doing everything I should do to make life better. I work everyday to bring money home to my family. I lose wieght. Excersise. Eat right. And still I get hammered by life. Okay... Guess im ready for those anti depressants now.

Bfromaz

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Pain causing Blood Pressure to rise

Hi Bfromaz,

Yes, pain can caused increased Blood Pressure levels. I know that when I am having a flare and I take my blood pressure, its is higher than my normal levels.
My wife is a nurse and has seen this many times working in the Emergency Room at hospitals, other critical care patients and some COPD patients.
I have discussed this with my doctor and she said that without a question, changes in your pain levels can effect your blood pressure. Each person is a unique individual, so there are no formal cast in concrete tables that would say IF my pain level was XX, then my Blood Pressure would be raised by YY When I had finished up with one of my Epidural Injections, my BP was 180/140! Not a pretty site. The doctors did not seem to be concerned a bit. They just told me that after being home, laying down, check my pressure then to see what it is. If it is still high then contact him or go to the emergency room.

Bottom line, there are no 100% facts and truths behind this, but it has been documented in several medical journals and there would be many doctors who would agree that your increase in pain levels can also increase our Blood Pressure

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Oh Yeah

Every time the pain spikes,so does my BP.The highest it's been was 170/110.I'm 37 with BP normally around 130/80-90.So yeah, pain will do that to you.
Hope your day is getting better!

G. 8)

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Bfromaz 80 LBS !!!!!!

Bfromaz,
Any invasive process would increase BP and even stress and tension over time less than advisable, we could have family history of increased BP caused by many varied reason, the key thing other than a specific health reason is to keep it at a reasonable level. Peaks and troughs are variants of BP and mine has come down dramatically in association with my cholesterol levels and BMi as a consequence. It is not categoric that chronic pain should impart higher prolonged BP and although increased pain is never easy high BP will lead to your eventual demise.

Just as depression is a constituent of chronic pain so is weight gain, increased inactivity and the associated implication for accumulative medication. Bfromaz 80lbs is a massive loss and a fantastic achievement and as you say the longer it goes on the harder it becomes, BP is the silent killer and it is not necessarily apparent until closer evaluation of impending Mi.

It is in the notion that we cannot see it that the importance of this changes is apparent, I have recently seen my own beating heart on a monitor and it is a sobering visualisation. Certainly higher that normal BP is a concern and higher over time of more concern, we need to differentiate between periodic highs that even taking you Bp could increase and underlying problems, any fight or flight experience could increase your BP and we need to measure these over a longer period and as with most cases finding the cause is paramount. My evaluation is ongoing and I have had some £15000 of investigation and 3 stents fitted.

Managing my three teenagers increases my BP but that is not to say that they have caused it specifically, unfortunately that continual effort never stops and age is a factor as is diet and lifestyle, you do not get a day off and as you say continuing and increasing continuous effort may be required to get and keep it within the normal range. Medication has it place but with sufficient concerns already heart problems are not one that anyone desires.

John, with lower everything.

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Lemon water

I have found the cheapest way to keep the BP on the stable side was to drink lemon juiced water by the liters

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chronic pain & bp

I never had high blood pressure in my life. That is until failed fusion and chronic pain came along. I have "white coat syndrome" and have been blaming the high bp on that. I recently had physical by my primary doc., he didn't like my bp or my electrocardiogram. He sent me to a specialist who did a load of tests. everything was ok but my bp.He put me on 20 mg. of benicar and told me to buy a a good bp tester. After monitoring my bp for quite some time I noticed it did go up and down depending on my pain level. So I think there is something to be said about that.
Good luck, Jim

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Here ya go buddy...Ron sez it much better than I can...
You rock Ron..
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Patsy W
Oops....I should explain the reason for bringing this back to the top is coz of something I said about bp and pain on another thread.
When I am in pain and stresssed my bp goes up.
I was interested to see what others said about it.
You explained it very well Ron. Much better than I can.
A Nurse in my Doctors office said if someone came in and wanted pain meds and their bp was not up they were just after drugs. Do all Nurses feel this way? I do not know. Only repeating what was said in my prescence. Hmmmm makes ya think

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i have always had very low BP - even pregnant and put on almost 60 lbs - my bp was low - so the docs said - you have to loose the weight - but you are healthy. To let you know I am 5'5" and generally @ 125

But since the pain began - most of my readings are pretty high - at first I was scared, but then it was explained to me that I am someone who's bp will fluctuate with pain. My gp took my bp 3 times once in her office thinking something was wrong.

Some people might think this is a 'great' thing - but also due to the pain (have all the other biological things checked out) - i have lost @ 25 lbs and cannot put any back on - it may sound great to some people - but i am not healthy at 100# - and the comments you can get from people is sometimes offensive - I always reply - I have medical reason for this (the docs have assumed it is the stress of the pain) - and most people feel a little silly for their comments. I am not out to make people feel bad, but sometimes commenting on someone's weight - like God you are so skinny - can be mean - I wouldn't say to you God you are so fat!

just food for thought
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Hi Baffled

I am glad to hear you haven't had an experience with a doctors office not believing you were in pain, due to your blood pressure.

(Tammy's Edit): Pat White had said at one of her visits to the doctors office, a nurse indicated that if patients come in and say they are in pain... but their blood pressure is not elevated... the doctors don't believe they are in pain and are "drug seekers"!

I think that is just terrible. Just because some of us don't have much of a change in our blood pressure due to our pain, they should not base pain levels on blood pressure alone. To not treat a patient for expressed pain due to pressure readings, is wrong. I have been hospitalized a few times in my life. My fall in November was the WORST pain I have ever had in my life. My blood pressure did not change much during my hospitalization, but my heart rate did increase.

I agree with you on the being too skinny comments. I have always had a high metabolism and whenever I get sick, I drop pounds rather quickly. It's not my choice, it's just how my body reacts when I can't eat much for several days.

Have you found out anything regarding your thoracic area?

Tammy

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No Dear....My bp WAS elevated.....it always is when I am stressed because of pain.
The Nurse made a comment to a new employee rhat if someone came in wanting pain meds and their bp was normal they were just wanting drugs.
Please understand that I am only repeating something that was said in front of me by someone else.
When I am stressed my bp reflects that stress. I am NOT saying that is true for everyone. Please understand that.
Whew.....hope i cleared that up.
Patsy W

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I read you loud and clear...

My apologies Patsy W.

I edited my comment above, accordingly.

I'm not sure why I referenced your name in my first reply. I sincerely meant to say "patients".

I have read your posts on this topic and I completely understand what you are saying.

Tammy

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