Stenum Hospital in Germany - Artificial Disc Replacement

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Stenum Hospital in Germany - Artificial Disc Replacement

Has anyone heard of the Artificial Disc Replacement that they offer in Germany???? Cannot afford it now but if there is anyone out there who has heard of it or has heard of a lot of success stories I sure would love to save for it. I have had 2 lower back surgeries. The second to to an automobile accident and in more pain than before the accident.

Losing hope and patience.

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pete81241
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hi perry

ah theyve been doing adr in germany for years. thing is they are starting too do some here also. check around and maybe someone in your area has experience. dont think of it as that much better however as studies have shown its just slightly better painwise than fusion.

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I believe Pete is right....

I believe Pete is right.... (I am pete too BTW)...but they have been doing artifical disc in germany for years, and are very goood at it.

from what my doctor has told me, They have been doing artificial disc in ohio for a bit of time now, but due to insurance not wanting to pay for it, they have only done 12 in ohio in the past couple of years.... so if you can get insurance to pay for this over a fusion, let me know how you did it. LOL

--off to physical therapy now, I have to go, or they threaten to take my drugs away.... 3 months and it feels like it is worse from the therapy (and yes I have told them this many times)

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good morning perry

hope pain not too bad this morning...where is your pain?
one claim stenum hospital in germany makes is that their infection rate is 75% lower than usa average.

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Hello ~

Here's a link to an old post on the topic:

http://www.spine-health.com/forum/neck-pain-cervical/adr-or-acdf

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pain is always in the same

pain is always in the same spot...lower back, mostly right side.. (even though my mri shows the nerve crushed on left)... my first facet injection did work last week, going for second tommorow, then RF the following...then we are going to repeat and do right side if all goes well.

just curious, will hospitals in germany take U.S. insurance? and if they take it, will our insurance actually pay it. LOL.. I have been thinking about going over seas if they come out with a slimmer disc that can be used in my back (to far gone to use the current artifical disk they have now, not enough room)

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re stenum

i have read that stenum has representatives in the us who will actually review you situation and give information...google stenum and i'm sure there will be a way to contact them...
i'd check with your ins. co. i would think that if the pay stenum woud take....

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wow thats great..I am going

wow thats great..I am going to google them and do more research into this. being only 32 I think a fusion is a bad idea, on top of the poor success rate.

I also was reading only 2 month recovery time with a disc replacement because its only soft tissue healing, not bones fusing. WOW.

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My husband had a 2 level

My husband had a 2 level charite disc replacement done while in the Army. L3-4 and L5-S1. There is a class action lawsuit against the company, my husband is not included in this because he was on active duty.
The ADR was chosen so he could still play golf. We have heard that there is alot of sucess with ADR. Our pain management doc said he has 500 pts with ADR that have pain. After the intial recovery - anterior approach with a huge incision in the abdomen- he really felt better and most of the radiculopathy is gone. He had the option of 3 level fusion and he would not ever be able to play golf. One of his dics was not addressed with this operation, they couldn't do the replacements and a fusion at the same time. The artificial discs, and this may just be his bone structure, caused facet joint degeneration. So he has really bad pain, in the back, not down the legs. He has had all the steriod injections, nerve blocks and is soon to have his 4th nerve ablation. They do make a difference, until the nerve regenerates.

I, on the other hand, had L5-S1 fusion. It kept the things from getting worse, but I still have "bone" pain in the area of the surgery and I feel like the hardware (screws/rods/cage) are heavy. I take prn hydrocodone, use lidodern patches, exercise and use the TENS.

My husband also had C3-7 fusion but now has non-union and will eventually have to have that redone from the back, leaving all the hardware and cadavor material in place.