help with neck problems

help with neck problems

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acewin
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help with neck problems

hi ev1

i really could do with some help and advice bit of a long history but will try to be short as possible

last year started having some severe shoulder/chest pain paramedic came to my house thinking was having heart problems but was then told it was muscular problem so thought nothing of it took pain meds felt better.Then 2 mths later started to get a shock jolt feeling in my body when i moved my head balance was awful leg tremors couldnt hold things properly had trouble sleeping etc etc sent to neuro for test they thought it was MS but fortunately thst was a no by this time had 2 head MRI know had to go for a spinal MRI and this is what was found:

central canal stenosis c4-c5 with complex osthepthyes and cord compression without myeopathy
i must say dizziness and balance is lots better but i have know been in severe pain in shoulder and neck occpitual headaches the consultant has said surgery is not required at present and physio and accupunture and meds will help.have know been back and fourth from my docs nearly every week and signed off work with muscle strain iam so confused ?

physio said it not the stenosis thats my problem and there not bothered about it and you have no compression so you will be fine?????
docs have said the pain is muscle strain due to the stenosis????
the pain in my head and leg weakness are nothing to do with the stenosis???

i dont no what to do or think i find it hard to sleep hard to work and iam in tears nearly everyday the meds do help but where do i go from here???
iam a just imaging the pain dizziness leg tremors ????
my meds are naproxen and diazpam before this iwas on tramdol co-codemal ibubrofen amtrityline

IAM I GOING MAD PLEASE HELP ME
dont no anything about the neck problem what it is ? what can be done?

acewin
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acewin wrote:hi ev1

acewin wrote:
hi ev1

i really could do with some help and advice bit of a long history but will try to be short as possible

last year started having some severe shoulder/chest pain paramedic came to my house thinking was having heart problems but was then told it was muscular problem so thought nothing of it took pain meds felt better.Then 2 mths later started to get a shock jolt feeling in my body when i moved my head balance was awful leg tremors couldnt hold things properly had trouble sleeping etc etc sent to neuro for test they thought it was MS but fortunately thst was a no by this time had 2 head MRI know had to go for a spinal MRI and this is what was found:

central canal stenosis c4-c5 with complex osthepthyes and cord compression without myeopathy
i must say dizziness and balance is lots better but i have know been in severe pain in shoulder and neck occpitual headaches the consultant has said surgery is not required at present and physio and accupunture and meds will help.have know been back and fourth from my docs nearly every week and signed off work with muscle strain iam so confused ?

physio said it not the stenosis thats my problem and there not bothered about it and you have no compression so you will be fine?????
docs have said the pain is muscle strain due to the stenosis????
the pain in my head and leg weakness are nothing to do with the stenosis???

i dont no what to do or think i find it hard to sleep hard to work and iam in tears nearly everyday the meds do help but where do i go from here???
iam a just imaging the pain dizziness leg tremors ????
my meds are naproxen and diazpam before this iwas on tramdol co-codemal ibubrofen amtrityline

IAM I GOING MAD PLEASE HELP ME
dont no anything about the neck problem what it is ? what can be done?

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Pain problems need proper diagnosis

Hi acewin,
Sorry about your situation. Pain can be troublesome esp when it decides not to leave.Its good that you don't need no surgery or complicated procedures.You can listen to your doctor about accu and other stuff. I believe that if you are having pains like migraine or other headaches and the pain is not going away, you may want to consult a chiropractor or a pain management expert. I have seen many people who had pain issues and they recovered from it through chiropractic adjustments.These practices adjust your body in a way that they should be in. And you may feel a lot better that too without any meds.
You can check on the internet about people's experiences with chiropractic and you may check out one of the links below,it has a video explaining the whole concept.

Hope this helps. Wishing you the best

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tammyc
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acewin

Please do not! see a chiropractor with the cord compression that you have. You could become paralyzed from an adjustment.
I don't know who your doctor is that your seeing but you need to find someone who will help you. I suppose you could have muscle strain as a result of your stenosis if your muscle are weak and your overworking them. Did your physio see your mri?? They can disagree with your doctor but reading mri's isn't there specialty. smiley ;-))I had three discs compressing my spinal cord and i was strongly told to stay away from chiropractors,once a disc is on your spinal cord it can not be moved from there.Just what i was told by my doctor,physio and surgeon. I ended up with surgery, having a fall,or getting in an accident can cause the disc to move and end up paralyzing that person.I don't want to scare you at all but if your doctor hasn't told you these things then you need to search out a doctor who can explain in detail your mri. Please be safe!

acewin
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hi ty guys for your replys

hi ty guys for your replys
tammy this was my big concern because i have conflicting information from consultant saying happy to see me again if need be by referal from my doctor have seen 4 different gps in 3 weeks with pain and balance and weakness issues but not 1 seems to say the same, then had first physio and he said nothing to worry about just a bit of ddd but proberbly had it a while nothing to do with my pain ? had it a while iam 36years old and have disc degenrative disease ?? how? why? will iy get worse? is this why doc says no surgery at present ? but physio seems to think your finre he dont want to do surgery
where do i go from here ? x

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acewin ....

Just to say that I have been told not to see a chiropractor because of the compression of my cord.
I do have weekly physiotherapy, when he very gently mobilises my neck to keep my range of motion as good as he can. I also do daily very gentle neck exercices and walk each day (about 2 miles).

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told to avoid chiropractor

hi, i am post op but i was told i must never go to a chiropractor for my neck as i could be paralysed from neck down in a minute! scary thought so i for one will be avoiding them! dont even get pt, just exercises and walking for me.
good luck and wishing all a good day and a good nights sleep (rare as hens teeth!)

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acewin, agree with the others re: chiropractor

As far a your DDD it's a common diagnosis that odesn't necessarily mean anything, we all degenrate as we age. Being 36 is not totally out of the norm but is early for having back issues without an accident or work incident to correlate to.
None of us here are medically trained and can only give our advice and based upon our experiences. For me I would continue to look for someone who would listen or explain why central canal stenosis and cord compression are not issues to worry about.
There are some PT treatments and exercises that might help but you need to make sure the person is trained to handle your issues. I personally undergo jightly traction at home to try and relieve some of my symptoms. I know I have a 3 level fusion in my future, just trying to push it out as far as possible.
Let us know how you are doing.

laminectomy c4/c5 2008, ACDF c4-c7 Jan 20 2014 sched

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Complex osteophytes..... Been

Complex osteophytes..... Been there done that. As my neurosurgeon said before " there isn't any amount of PT, ESI or medication that will remove or repair these" they can continue to grow in size and can be quite painful.

On my second fusion I had a 2 level acdf c5/6/7 there were herniated discs but the worst part was the island style osteophyte we were afraid would break off into the spinal canal and real get messy. My surgery took 5 hours ( should have been less than 2).

If you research why your body is making the bone spurs you should find it is trying to to stop movement where there shouldn't be movement.

I am now having pretty intense cervical migraine/ headaches since July, terrible arm pain with hand numbness at times again, dizziness (balance issues I guess), facial tingling, thigh & knee nerve pain and I am guessing there is something going on in neck above my fusion site since I did have a little bit of retrololisthsis above it at c4 last X-ray 18 months ago and my body loves to grow osteophytes....

Are you in the USA? It doesn't sound like our healthcare system, although I have been getting the run around lately. It is much better if you can get in to see a neurosurgeon or orthopedic surgeon rather than a GP. I know we have members from across the pond who have successfully navigated the healthcare system, but it is much different than the USA if that is the case.

Good luck & feel better (hugs),

Julie

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Neck exercises are a common

Neck exercises are a common part of almost any treatment program for neck pain. A typical neck exercise program will consist of a combination of stretching and strengthening exercises, aerobic conditioning, and possibly trigger point exercises.Its mandatory to do exercises daily.it is very effective for health.The neck pain is a criticle problems.i want to say that plz follow the proper diet and do exercise daily.

david flora

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Chiropractors

I have a fusion at c5-c5, my own bone, no hardware, done in 1995. It is my understanding that cervical vertebrae move in and out of alignment, just naturally. Mine for some reason, get stuck, which causes headaches; head, neck and shoulder pain; and sometimes arm and hand numbness and tingling.

My chiropractor feels my neck, can tell which v's are out of alignment and gently knocks them in using an activator (little pop out hammer device). For me, she has been a lifesaver. I originally saw her for a hip/leg pain that lasted over 9 months. She fixed it one visit. I continued to see her to maintain the correct positioning of my lower spine for 6 months b4 I would allow her to touch my neck at all. I am very cautious by nature and have had more PT's etc... hurt me more than they help me.

Last year I had an new cervical MRI (it had been 6 years since my last one) and took it to a spine specialist to see if my neck was maintaining or deteriorating. The spine specialist tried to move me along w/out providing much information. When I called back asking for a longer visit, they accused me of drug seeking in a round about way. I explained that I was just looking for a comparison and faxed them 3 pages of questions. I was granted a double appnt. Whoopee! A whole 40 minutes.

Anyway, good news was that the Spine Specialist reviewed each v w/me and there has been no serious deterioration over the last 6 years. At the end of my visit, he said no chiropractor. I asked explained how my chiro uses an activator and it is extremely helpful for my pain. So he said ok. To be honest, I think he just wanted to get rid of me.

Please don't get me wrong. There are a lot of chiropractors out there that would undoubtedly do damage to spineys (is that the term?) but for my issue of v's getting out alignment and getting stuck, my particular chiro is a godsend.

To the original thread poster, you need to see another doctor. I would see a neurosurgeon or a spine specialist. It is smart to want to become educated about your condition. If you understand what is occurring in your spine, then you can make an informed decision about treatment and/or surgery.

I personally believe that spinal issues are mostly structural and therefore not rocket science. Sure maybe we will not understand all the terms, but its not like trying to understand a disease. Knowledge is power. Keep searching. You must be your own advocate. The doctors are a resource. They are not 100% the answer. JMHO.

Take the high road. There's less traffic up there.

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