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insomniac buddies, who is up and who is sleeping?

hi dear sleepless friends. Wave its gettting late here and i am thinking of a cup of tea to help put me in the begginnings of dreamland. of course it could be an all night affair!! LOL!i have been away for awhile and have missed you all. Love Struck i hope you were sleeping and not feeling too bad.. baseball i hope you are feeling better soon.. so, dear spineys, what in the world is on your mind tonight if you cannot sleep? Yawn Jenny Smile

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Hey Jenny

I still up. I want to go to bed and I keep thinking about how much better I'm going to feel in the morning if I could just get to sleep. It's been raining for 2 days and it's been damp and cooling down each day so as you can imagine, I'm in excrutiating pain. I've been taking max dose of pain meds since Saturday evening when the rain actually started. I am throbbing all over. I even took my sleeping pill (ambien) for the night at about 9pm (it's now 11:45pm on my time) and it still hasn't kicked in. I'm thinking whether I should stay on the computer or just lay in bed until the sandman finally comes.

How about you? What are you thinking about. Did you get that cup of tea or did you finally drift off to dreamland?

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I am in no way a medical professional and my posts are based on my own personal experience and/or opinions.
*7/1/08 L5-S1 anterior discectomy and fusion with interbody carbon fiber spacers, anterior plate and cancellous screws
*3/24/09 diagnosed by new neurosurgeon with pseudoarthrosis (failed fusion) and hardware failure (2 screws have stress fractures). Got info from doc regarding SCS and he's advised me to do some research on it.
*3/28/09 started bone growth stimulator 4hrs/day for 9 months
*6/2009 received tens unit and use frequently, new MRI w/ and w/o contrast and bone density test (was told everything was ok with both tests)
*See pain mgmt doc once a month
*ESI scheduled for 12/7/09
*Current meds: MsContinER 30mg 2x's day, Zanaflex 4mg 4x's day, Norco 7.5/325 for break thru 1-3/day, buspiron 75mg 2x's day, Cymbalta 60mgs, Klonopin .5mgs before bed, daily vitamin.

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Hi Ming & Jenny, guess I

Hi Ming & Jenny, guess I followed ya'll. Hopelly Jenny found her way to bed and Ming I hope the rain lets up for you and you get some relief soon. I don't want to pry and if I am being to intrusive tell me but where are you at that its been rainy for two days? Man you have to be hurting. I am sorry you feel so bad.

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Jan 2002 ALDF L4-5 & L5-S1(complete success & no regrets).
Multitude of other surgeries.
Sept 3, 2009 ACDF C5-6.
OA & CFS.

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Traci

Looks like Jenny went off to bed and I'm heading that way myself now.

I live in upstate NY between Binghamton and Syracuse (not sure if you are familiar with NY or not). I don't think it's raining right now and it did let up this evening right after they cancelled my daughter's field hockey game. Once she got home the sun started shining and it was actually kind of nice for a couple of hours but then started raining again. Temps are starting to drop this week. The leaves are changing and they are looking beautiful which also means winter's coming.

Good night.

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Michele

I am in no way a medical professional and my posts are based on my own personal experience and/or opinions.
*7/1/08 L5-S1 anterior discectomy and fusion with interbody carbon fiber spacers, anterior plate and cancellous screws
*3/24/09 diagnosed by new neurosurgeon with pseudoarthrosis (failed fusion) and hardware failure (2 screws have stress fractures). Got info from doc regarding SCS and he's advised me to do some research on it.
*3/28/09 started bone growth stimulator 4hrs/day for 9 months
*6/2009 received tens unit and use frequently, new MRI w/ and w/o contrast and bone density test (was told everything was ok with both tests)
*See pain mgmt doc once a month
*ESI scheduled for 12/7/09
*Current meds: MsContinER 30mg 2x's day, Zanaflex 4mg 4x's day, Norco 7.5/325 for break thru 1-3/day, buspiron 75mg 2x's day, Cymbalta 60mgs, Klonopin .5mgs before bed, daily vitamin.

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I am south of you in Roanoke

I am south of you in Roanoke Va. I guess I sent the rain your way but we got it all in one day. Hopefully you don't get the windy we had today. And it was about 10 degrees cooler today and supposed be even cooler tomorrow. Ouchy! I thought my little dog was going to blow away. I hope you get some sleep!

Good night.

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Ovarian Cancer Survivor 1996 (age 26).
Jan 2002 ALDF L4-5 & L5-S1(complete success & no regrets).
Multitude of other surgeries.
Sept 3, 2009 ACDF C5-6.
OA & CFS.

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Ming and Wandtmac, sleep tight

so sorry i missed you both last night. Big Grin i had that tea and took a sleeping pill and slept through the night like a little kitten!!! Sleepy i live in southern calif. and it is getting a little cold at night but no real weather yet like ya'll are having! i hope the cold and rain and and all the other aches and pains of the night stay away and you both get a good night's sleep tonight!! may angels dream on your shoulders!! Big Hug Jenny Smile

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spiney hugs

no dreams, no lumpy mattress! a hot pot of tea and the radio! that is usually a good start for me! Love Struck i hope some of you are sleeping well and not fighting with the sheets! even my Sirius has left me for the night! LOL! how is everyone? so sleepless ones, grab a few pillows, one four legged friend and see if you don't get a few hours of sleep! spiney hugssss, Big Hug Big Hug Jenny Smile

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Hey guys

I haven't posted for awhile, our house has been very sick.... Swine flu.I think we are all on the mend finally but, this has really kicked my a--s...Mostly hurting from coughing so much. My husband had it the worst, he coughed for 4 days straight. Which to me is strange, he doesn't smoke and I do. Anyways, hopefully that's over with.
I hope everyone else is doing okay...
Jeanette

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42 year old female with c4-c7 fusion, Have had 3 surgeries in the last 15 months.Had infection at the iliac crest sight and had to have surgery 1 month after neck surgery to debred and jackson prat tubes placed. I have tried spinal shots,PT, didn't help me.Medications for chronic pain: hydromorphone, Soma, Neurotin, (next step is a pain pump)I have bone spurring,DDD,spinal stenosis, ossification,at the 4-5 fusion there is almost complete loss of CSF.At T7-8 level I have protrusion that indents the thecal sac.New disc extrusion at c3-4 and bone spur c5-c6 fusion sight that is pushing on spinal cord and nerve roots.I have had to quit work, I loved my job....

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taking care of them all

Jeanette, wishing a whole household full of well "Kaspers!" the four-legged kind and all!!! being the mom, i know you are taking care of them all. now it's time for you to get some rest!!! Sleepy get comfy! Yawn hugsssss, Big Hug Big Hug Jenny Smile

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Hope you're all doing

Hope you're all doing better!!! A lot of sickies in our bunch of spineys lately!! Being sick and coughing on top of everything else makes it so much worse. Hope you're all feeling better!!!

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spot of illness

you are so right Kelly! At Wits End having back and neck problems and then add a cold or flu and you have a miserable spiney!!! we just aren't made for that!! LOL! hope you are better in no time... and that this spot of illness runs its course through our group of spineys! soft hugssssss, Big Hug Big Hug Jenny Smile

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Iam feeling alittle better

It has taken me twice as long to get better than the rest of my family, but, Iam also the only one that can just stay home and rest as much as I need to. The rest work or have school, so, I guess out of everyone Iam the best candidate to take more time to heal... Iam finally starting to feel better though, I actually went somewhere yesterday with my family, it was the first time in almost 2 weeks...
Has anyone else been sick with the flu or cold??? I sure hope not, it's the pits!!!
It sure seems alittle quieter here in the sleep topics lately, sure hope it means people are sleeping more....
Jeanette

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42 year old female with c4-c7 fusion, Have had 3 surgeries in the last 15 months.Had infection at the iliac crest sight and had to have surgery 1 month after neck surgery to debred and jackson prat tubes placed. I have tried spinal shots,PT, didn't help me.Medications for chronic pain: hydromorphone, Soma, Neurotin, (next step is a pain pump)I have bone spurring,DDD,spinal stenosis, ossification,at the 4-5 fusion there is almost complete loss of CSF.At T7-8 level I have protrusion that indents the thecal sac.New disc extrusion at c3-4 and bone spur c5-c6 fusion sight that is pushing on spinal cord and nerve roots.I have had to quit work, I loved my job....

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one happy, sleeping family

well, it sounds like maybe we have gotten the best of the worse and some of us are feeling better today! Applause glad you are Jeanette!i slept a few good hours this morning with John and Sirius. one happy, sleeping family!! LOL! i hope to see some of you back on the forum in the next couple of nights. what have you all been doing besides being ill? hugsss to all insomniac spineys! Big Hug Big Hug Jenny Smile

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my family may be....

I think my family is coming down with something. We've all had sore throats and just feel wiped out. The kids are grouchy and look so drained. I've made sure they are staying hydrated, taking their vitamins, eating well etc. My sore throat started this morning. Hoping it is something that will just pass through quickly.

I've been dealing with increased pain. I'm not sure what's going on and want to call my doc but still waiting to get my health insurance reinstated. I don't have the money to pay dr visit and script for new meds if I'm given anything else. My monthly pain mgmt appt is 10/13 and I will be getting my monthly script of pain meds so I hope my insurance kicks in by then. I had to pay cash last month and it was over $500 for office visit plus meds.

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Michele

I am in no way a medical professional and my posts are based on my own personal experience and/or opinions.
*7/1/08 L5-S1 anterior discectomy and fusion with interbody carbon fiber spacers, anterior plate and cancellous screws
*3/24/09 diagnosed by new neurosurgeon with pseudoarthrosis (failed fusion) and hardware failure (2 screws have stress fractures). Got info from doc regarding SCS and he's advised me to do some research on it.
*3/28/09 started bone growth stimulator 4hrs/day for 9 months
*6/2009 received tens unit and use frequently, new MRI w/ and w/o contrast and bone density test (was told everything was ok with both tests)
*See pain mgmt doc once a month
*ESI scheduled for 12/7/09
*Current meds: MsContinER 30mg 2x's day, Zanaflex 4mg 4x's day, Norco 7.5/325 for break thru 1-3/day, buspiron 75mg 2x's day, Cymbalta 60mgs, Klonopin .5mgs before bed, daily vitamin.

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getting to know you

Ming, so sorry you are having illness move throughout your family! Crying i do hope it is rapid and not to inconvenient. you are dealing with this on top of having pain and that is especially difficult! At Wits End Ming, i do hope your cash problems change. i have to lay out cash each month of over 500.00$ myself and know how difficult that is!! i will be thinking positive thoughts about your insurance and hoping it comes through anyday! it is nice to have you stop by the forum Ming... i am enjoying getting to know you! please stop by anytime! all the best! Big Grin Jenny Smile

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jenny

Thanks for your kind words and positive thoughts Jenny. I can't imagine shelling out that much cash each month. I really miss my insurance lol.

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Michele

I am in no way a medical professional and my posts are based on my own personal experience and/or opinions.
*7/1/08 L5-S1 anterior discectomy and fusion with interbody carbon fiber spacers, anterior plate and cancellous screws
*3/24/09 diagnosed by new neurosurgeon with pseudoarthrosis (failed fusion) and hardware failure (2 screws have stress fractures). Got info from doc regarding SCS and he's advised me to do some research on it.
*3/28/09 started bone growth stimulator 4hrs/day for 9 months
*6/2009 received tens unit and use frequently, new MRI w/ and w/o contrast and bone density test (was told everything was ok with both tests)
*See pain mgmt doc once a month
*ESI scheduled for 12/7/09
*Current meds: MsContinER 30mg 2x's day, Zanaflex 4mg 4x's day, Norco 7.5/325 for break thru 1-3/day, buspiron 75mg 2x's day, Cymbalta 60mgs, Klonopin .5mgs before bed, daily vitamin.

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I hope it comes thru for you

I hope it comes thru for you quickly too Michele!! Boy, that's one thing that scares me about getting out of the military, I have 100% coverage for everything right now, and feel so blessed. At least I have a couple of more years to go, and hopefully land another government job after to keep most of my benefits (pension included, yikes).
Sorry to hear about all the illness going around, Jenny, how is your fam doing now? My boyfriend has been fighting a cold, and he's been trying to keep away from me so I don't get it, too. Haven't caught it yet, knock on wood. This neurontin has really kciked my butt, which is good, I'm sleeping more now, but do have the odd sleepless night yet. But I'm not complaining! I'm having problems sleeping thru, or turning off my alarm in the morning though, couldn't figure out why, until this morning. There's construction going on in the lot behind us, and they start at 7 am. The beeping the vehicles make when backing up is the same sound as my alarm!! I've been turning off my alarm clock in my sleep before it actually goes off, thanks to the noisy equipment!!! ggrrrr.... Not only does that tick me off, but we had a huge lot of green space beside and behind us, with lots of trees, and they're tearing it all down to build a church and parking lots. Pave paradise...
We had about 200 birds on our front lawn the other day as they were tearing down all the trees, they no longer had homes... Anyways, this has been quite the ramble, lol, getting tired I guess.
Again, I hope you all are doing better now, and your families!!

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Kelly Wink

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Anterior Foraminotomy in April 09 for:
stenosis C4/C5, protruding disc at C5/C6 with osteophyte complex, herniated disc at C6/C7
OA in neck, hip, knees
PTSD and Anxiety Disorder
**A Proud Canadian Soldier**
BUT NOT A DOCTOR!!! My thoughts are just that... my thoughts based solely on my experiences, so take them for what they're worth (and sometimes they may not be worth much) Sticking out tongue

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what is new with all of you?

another sleepless night! Yawn hello out there! listening to the radio and chomping away at the computer here! i hope everyone is feeling better by now and ready to face the rest of the week! what is new with everyone? still planning the wedding or a surgery whichever comes first!! what is going on in your neck of the woods? LOL! just checking in on my "sleepless insomniacs!" sleep well dear friends! spiney hugsss, Big Hug Big Hug Jenny Smile

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the forum has been very

the forum has been very quiet! Big Grin it can only be sleep, sleep, and more sleep for most of us.. i hope that is the good news!! still early here but i am setting my self up for a long winter's night! Lol! where is everyone if you aren't sleeping? Love, Love Struck Jenny Smile

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just getting ready

I was just finishing up reading some posts under topics I've posted and then was going to try to shut the tv and lights off and try to go to sleep. The pain is still intense and still having trouble cuz of it. I wish my sleeping pills would atleast help me sleep and not feel the back pain for 6-8hrs/night so I can get the required amount of sleep. I'm not feeling well either. I got a cold or bug or something so I ache all over from that too. My husband thinks I'm lazy cuz I just lay around most of the time cuz it hurts to sit or stand and laying down whether on the couch or bed is most comfortable. Sorry for rambling. I tend to go off on tangents at this time of night lol.

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Michele

I am in no way a medical professional and my posts are based on my own personal experience and/or opinions.
*7/1/08 L5-S1 anterior discectomy and fusion with interbody carbon fiber spacers, anterior plate and cancellous screws
*3/24/09 diagnosed by new neurosurgeon with pseudoarthrosis (failed fusion) and hardware failure (2 screws have stress fractures). Got info from doc regarding SCS and he's advised me to do some research on it.
*3/28/09 started bone growth stimulator 4hrs/day for 9 months
*6/2009 received tens unit and use frequently, new MRI w/ and w/o contrast and bone density test (was told everything was ok with both tests)
*See pain mgmt doc once a month
*ESI scheduled for 12/7/09
*Current meds: MsContinER 30mg 2x's day, Zanaflex 4mg 4x's day, Norco 7.5/325 for break thru 1-3/day, buspiron 75mg 2x's day, Cymbalta 60mgs, Klonopin .5mgs before bed, daily vitamin.

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feeling sorrow

Ming, we all know it is not laziness that keeps us in bed but pain and for those that don't understand i only feel sorrow. Crying they don't understand the pain we feel at being bed ridden so much of the time. i do hope your husband gains some understanding as this is not likely to go away any time soon and i hate to see you being alone.. remember you always have us here at SH and especially here, when you can't sleep!!! Love Struck take care Ming, ramble on!! LOL! Jenny Smile

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((HUGS)) to Jenny

Thank you so much for your caring and understanding. Today was another bad day but I forced myself to get up and shower and do my hair and makeup so I had to take a pic and put it as my default cuz I don't look this good too often lol. I'm still laying in bed when I took pic though. I don't think he will ever understand unfortunately. I tried to talk to him about it today. He said it's cuz I've been laying around too much and I said the pain is why I've been laying around more than usual.

I still manage to prepare meals for my family, do the cleaning and laundry and take the dog out to go potty from time to time. I also have to do all the shopping and running my kids around so when I'm not doing any of those things or sitting in a doc's office for myself or children then I am most likely laying on the couch or in my bed. It really is lonely and boring at times.

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Michele

I am in no way a medical professional and my posts are based on my own personal experience and/or opinions.
*7/1/08 L5-S1 anterior discectomy and fusion with interbody carbon fiber spacers, anterior plate and cancellous screws
*3/24/09 diagnosed by new neurosurgeon with pseudoarthrosis (failed fusion) and hardware failure (2 screws have stress fractures). Got info from doc regarding SCS and he's advised me to do some research on it.
*3/28/09 started bone growth stimulator 4hrs/day for 9 months
*6/2009 received tens unit and use frequently, new MRI w/ and w/o contrast and bone density test (was told everything was ok with both tests)
*See pain mgmt doc once a month
*ESI scheduled for 12/7/09
*Current meds: MsContinER 30mg 2x's day, Zanaflex 4mg 4x's day, Norco 7.5/325 for break thru 1-3/day, buspiron 75mg 2x's day, Cymbalta 60mgs, Klonopin .5mgs before bed, daily vitamin.

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those that cannot see

Ming, you look so cute in your picture. Big Grin i hate to see you when you are well!!! LOL! so the talking didn't do much. two different points of view. Thinking well Ming, with all you do, i don't even know when you would possibly have time to lay down at all. i know all you do must hurt. i am so sorry Ming... none is as blind as those that cannot see. one day his eyes will be opened! try and get some rest! Sleepy all the best! L, Jenny Smile

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want to sleep

it has been a long night tonight! kept checking the forum to see if anyone would drop by and say hi but it was quiet all night long. good for all you sleepyheads!!! wish i could join you!! wanting to sleep tonight! Yawn Jenny Smile

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error Yawn Jenny Smile

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Ihaven't popped in lately

I have been very sick with a bad cold, I and colds don't do well together, the constant coughing kills my neck... So, I just haven't felt like doing anything except lay in bed under my heat blanket...This cold seems to be lasting forever~!!! Iam trying to decide if I should get a flu shot or not, what is everyones opinion on that because I truely don't know if if I should get one or not!
I hope everyone else is doing well
Jeanette

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42 year old female with c4-c7 fusion, Have had 3 surgeries in the last 15 months.Had infection at the iliac crest sight and had to have surgery 1 month after neck surgery to debred and jackson prat tubes placed. I have tried spinal shots,PT, didn't help me.Medications for chronic pain: hydromorphone, Soma, Neurotin, (next step is a pain pump)I have bone spurring,DDD,spinal stenosis, ossification,at the 4-5 fusion there is almost complete loss of CSF.At T7-8 level I have protrusion that indents the thecal sac.New disc extrusion at c3-4 and bone spur c5-c6 fusion sight that is pushing on spinal cord and nerve roots.I have had to quit work, I loved my job....

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Hi Jenny

I hope you're able to sleep better tonight. Since I've had this new dizziness for the past 2 months on a B/P pill and gravol I seem to be getting to bed sooner than usual. I hope you're feeling better Jeanette and yours too. My Dr waited one year a couple of weeks when I had a cold before I got the flu shot but every Dr. has a different opinion. Take vitamins and lots of fruit to help you fight this cold. Michele I hope your husband is more supportive to you, it's not easy I know. Happy Canada Thanksgiving today everyone. Charry

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My 2nd MRI showed no herniated disc and no stenosis. Mild loss of signal intensity in intervertebral discs L1-S1 and mild loss of height from L1-L4. Mild DDD throughout the lumber spine. Still have back pain and some leg tingling, numbness though. 3rd opinion Neurosurgeon Oct. 6, 2009.

1st report last year Feb. 2008.
L5-S1 herniated disc with annular tear with disc material in contact with L5 exiting nerve, arthropy facet joints L4-L5. 5 Epidurals. Facet joint injections and 64 trigger point injections. Off work 21 months due to back and leg pain. Not a surgical candidate x 2 Ortho opinions. (history C5-7 osteoarthritis and DDD)
Infrared Platinum heating pad 4x/day and while sitting.
MS Contin 120mg, Cymbalta 60mg, lasix 20mg, Diovan for B/P . oxazepam 30mg for sleep. Excercise ball, recumbent stationary bicycle 30 mins. day, posture-pump for lower back. Tried PT, accupuncture, traction. Pool therapy Oct. 27/2009
http://www.livestrong.com/article/14700-self-affirmations/
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still ill

hi Jeanette and charry!! Wave it is good to hear from both of you but i am sorry to hear you are still ill Jeanette. i have a strong opinion on the swine flu vaccine and that is don't do it!!!! of course this is my personal opinion and you have to decide on your own... so sorry you are still ill!! enough is enough!!!i hope the dizziness goes away soon charry. that is no fun at all!! take care and drink your juice!! Big Grin sleep well! Sleepy L, Jenny Smile

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Hey guys, Iam up and can't sleep

Just out of curiousity Jenny why don't you like the flu shot??? I have another week or so to decide and really value your guys opinion!!!!
Iam getting alittle better but still just so stuffed up it is hard to sleep and when I do I get the good ole' tongue stuck to the roof of my mouth.
Boy it sure is getting cold here, my garden froze over a couple of days ago.For 2 days in a row we broke record temps for this time of year in freezing...in the last week I think I've gone out side maybe... just maybe 2 times, it's just too cold for me.
well, hope everyone is snug in thier warm beds
Jeanette

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Jeanette, so you are still up!!! me too. just listenining to the radio.. as for the Swine flu there are several reasons i am against it. there is no pandemic of the Swine flu, it has not been tested at all for length of time shot is given or any side effects, the injections have aduvants in them(unsafe in any amount).of course i am no doctor, and this is just my opinion but do some homework on your own and see what you think.. you might be surprised!! take care! Jenny

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Jenny I respect your opinion!!!

I was talking about just the regular flu shot though not swine flu. We already had swine flu in our house so I am not too worried about that anymore. But, mu whole family has gotten the seasonal flu shot except me and Iam trying to decide to get ot or not.I got it years ago and I can't rmember the effects...
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Jeanette, if your whole family has taken the shot i would say go ahead and have the injection. it appears to be safe, (alot of testing)i would not worry about it either way really. the injection is more for people who fall in the "unsafe ranges." babies, the elderly, the chronically ill (i guess that does mean us!!! ),pregnant women etc.... i am no doctor remember, so make up your own sweet mind! L, Jenny

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Hi all!!! Sorry to hear that

Hi all!!! Sorry to hear that there's still some that are still not feeling well due to colds and flus. That is the worse... I've been trying to stay off the computer at night, hoping that maight help with getting to sleep. Hasn't much really. Tonight, I'm a little nervous as I'm getting my first facet joint injection tomorrow morning, and today has been a pretty bad pain day as well. Anxiety and nerves through the roof, along with that and crappy weather not doing much help...
I also don't get the flu shot, partly because I get horrible side effects from it, end up getting sick because of it. Also, because usually the vaccination they give is not up to date with current strains, so I figure why would I want to make myself sick on the chance that the shot won't even protect me against the current strain going around. Just my feeling on it. Oh, my oldest fur kid just jumped up for some love, so I'm going to sign off for now, lol. Hope you're all getting some well needed rest!!!

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Hi Jeanette

When I first had my flu shot in 1995 I was very sick afterwards and I missed 6 weeks of work but there was a lot of stress in my life like moving and my husband and I separated so maybe I got the flu before the flu shot. After that from 1997 I've received a flu shot every year and barely get sick except of course my back problems. All I know is maybe next week you're going to be better from your cold and it's best to get the flu shot but while you're sick they wait until you're feeling better to give the flu shot. But that's my opinion. The flu shot isn't available where I live until the end of October and the swine flu shot is available in November. But I carry around the alcohol rinse purse size that smells like melon with me always and wash my hands often. I know the kids can pick up things at school and bring it home so it's easy to catch something. We don't have children though but hopefully I'll start back working at my Nurse job in February and I wouldn't want to catch or give anyone the flu so it's a strong suggestion that I have to get the flu sots but it's for my protection as well as others. My husband hasn't even had a flu shot yet and he even gets sick a couple of times a year. I can't tell him though.... Well good luck and hope you feel better. Like Jenny says drink some orange juice. Take care. Charry

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1st report last year Feb. 2008.
L5-S1 herniated disc with annular tear with disc material in contact with L5 exiting nerve, arthropy facet joints L4-L5. 5 Epidurals. Facet joint injections and 64 trigger point injections. Off work 21 months due to back and leg pain. Not a surgical candidate x 2 Ortho opinions. (history C5-7 osteoarthritis and DDD)
Infrared Platinum heating pad 4x/day and while sitting.
MS Contin 120mg, Cymbalta 60mg, lasix 20mg, Diovan for B/P . oxazepam 30mg for sleep. Excercise ball, recumbent stationary bicycle 30 mins. day, posture-pump for lower back. Tried PT, accupuncture, traction. Pool therapy Oct. 27/2009
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Well, my feline fur kid was

Well, my feline fur kid was scared off my by canine fir kid, so that was short lived, lol. Anyways, Jeannette, I was curious about the subject, so I googled flu shot, and came up with this site from the CDC. Hope it's helpful to you!!!
http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/about/qa/flushot.htm

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i can only say it's a little past midnight right now and as quiet as can be. Thinking no fog horns outside tonight, just dark and damp! wish there was some new method of going to sleep! Mr. sandman? the sleep fairy? ahhhh, well, i will depend on the radio.. White Bird is on.. so beautiful!!! makes me cry tears of happiness! tears to all tonight! i hope you are all feeling better tonight dear friends! i am nervous about my surgery!! sleep well! Sleepy Jenny Smile

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Hi Jenny

Big Hug Gallbladder surgery is pretty routine these days. I've had many friends who had the surgery and all recovered quite nicely. Is your doc doing the minimally invasive procedure?

Just keep focused on how much better you will feel after the surgery. I'm a big time worrier too -- what we imagine is always worse than the actual event!

Take care,

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thank you Judy.. Big Grin i know i have nothing to worry about but of course there is always that little kernel of worry!! where is everyone tonight? Thinking i am so awake and want some company!!! well, atleast all my spiney buddies are sleeping! Sleepy good for you all!!! sleep well dear friends, Sleepy Jenny Smile

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Hi Jenny,

When are you having gallbladder surgery? I had the laparoscopic procedure and recovered well.

Best wishes to you,

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good morning Marianne, Wave so you are up!!! HURRAY!!!! it has been a long night! whew!! i hope you are feeling ok. i am having my surgery on Monday at 4.. really close now!! they need to do exploratory work so it may not be the quick surgery!! hope all is well with you..enjoy your Sunday. spiney hugsssss, Big Hug Big Hug Jenny Smile

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Jenny I hope all goes well

Iam sure it will but I just wanted you to know I was thinking about you. I'll be thinking about you tomorrow and put all of my positive energy towards your surgery.... Let us know how you are doing as soon as you can ok???
Jeanette

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Hi Jenny

I hope everything goes well for you tomorrow for your surgery. Thinking healing thoughts for you and a prayer also my friend. Charry

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My 2nd MRI showed no herniated disc and no stenosis. Mild loss of signal intensity in intervertebral discs L1-S1 and mild loss of height from L1-L4. Mild DDD throughout the lumber spine. Still have back pain and some leg tingling, numbness though. 3rd opinion Neurosurgeon Oct. 6, 2009.

1st report last year Feb. 2008.
L5-S1 herniated disc with annular tear with disc material in contact with L5 exiting nerve, arthropy facet joints L4-L5. 5 Epidurals. Facet joint injections and 64 trigger point injections. Off work 21 months due to back and leg pain. Not a surgical candidate x 2 Ortho opinions. (history C5-7 osteoarthritis and DDD)
Infrared Platinum heating pad 4x/day and while sitting.
MS Contin 120mg, Cymbalta 60mg, lasix 20mg, Diovan for B/P . oxazepam 30mg for sleep. Excercise ball, recumbent stationary bicycle 30 mins. day, posture-pump for lower back. Tried PT, accupuncture, traction. Pool therapy Oct. 27/2009
http://www.livestrong.com/article/14700-self-affirmations/
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thank you all so much for your kind thoughts and prayers.. Big Grin i can tell you i need them all and feel so much better just knowing i am being surrounded by your warm thoughts... i just want to go in and come out and come home and get married next Monday!!!! simple, HUH? LOL!!! i will be thinking of you all as well. i will miss you!! take care dear friends! Love, Jenny

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Take care Jenny,and good luck!! Will be thinking of you!!

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Jenny, Jeanette,

Jenny-
Then you for your comment about my pic. That was very sweet. I try to do my napping during the day while the kids are at school and do my housework when they go to bed cuz I'm up anyway lol. Then I get on here til my eyes get tired from reading. How did your surgery go? I hope you are healing well and feeling better.

Jeanette-
I'm so sorry to hear you are still not feeling well. I've been unable to shake whatever it is I have for over 1wk. I don't know what's going on but today I couldn't get warm enough. I was freezing but sweating at the same time. As for the flu shot, my family and I all get ours cuz our son gets pretty sick and when he does it lasts for months. I'm undecided about getting the swine flu shot but my whole family is on waiting list for regular flu shot. I've gotten it for about 6-8yrs now and have been healthier than ever before.

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*7/1/08 L5-S1 anterior discectomy and fusion with interbody carbon fiber spacers, anterior plate and cancellous screws
*3/24/09 diagnosed by new neurosurgeon with pseudoarthrosis (failed fusion) and hardware failure (2 screws have stress fractures). Got info from doc regarding SCS and he's advised me to do some research on it.
*3/28/09 started bone growth stimulator 4hrs/day for 9 months
*6/2009 received tens unit and use frequently, new MRI w/ and w/o contrast and bone density test (was told everything was ok with both tests)
*See pain mgmt doc once a month
*ESI scheduled for 12/7/09
*Current meds: MsContinER 30mg 2x's day, Zanaflex 4mg 4x's day, Norco 7.5/325 for break thru 1-3/day, buspiron 75mg 2x's day, Cymbalta 60mgs, Klonopin .5mgs before bed, daily vitamin.

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so has everyone been asleep all week? Thinking hi all!! i am out of the hospital, still with my gallbladder!!! developed a case of pneumonia so surgery was cancelled... now i had a reason for not sleeping!! Big Grin LOL!! would love to hear what you have all been up to and busy at!!!Ming, i hope you are all well by now!! sending out soft spiney hugs and plenty of sweet dreams, Sleepy Jenny Smile

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Sorry your feeling bad

Hope you feel better soon.
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Oh Jenny

I can't believe your luck with this gall bladder surgery. Ya know, Iam starting to think your too fond of your gall bladder to let it go... LOL!!!! Well, are you doing okay?
Iam up and at it early this morning getting my little hunter off, makes me a nervous wreck my 12 year old is going hunting for the first time.I know, he's not a baby, but he's my baby!!!
Well, Jenny please let me know how you are...
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Oh My, Jenny!

I am so sorry to hear you are not well, still. I hope you get better soon and get that gall bladder out. When have they rescheduled the surgery for? Soft spiney hugs right back to you too.

Our whole family is now battling this cold or flu or whatever it is. I know it's not H1N1 cuz we are not having the stomach sickness that goes along with that. My lil' guy is hit with it the worst right now and keeps spiking a fever so he's home with me today. I've been unable to shake this for 2wks now and have been going to bed earlier than usual so that's why I'm not on here later at night.

I hope you are all doing well and staying healthy, especially you, Jenny.

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*7/1/08 L5-S1 anterior discectomy and fusion with interbody carbon fiber spacers, anterior plate and cancellous screws
*3/24/09 diagnosed by new neurosurgeon with pseudoarthrosis (failed fusion) and hardware failure (2 screws have stress fractures). Got info from doc regarding SCS and he's advised me to do some research on it.
*3/28/09 started bone growth stimulator 4hrs/day for 9 months
*6/2009 received tens unit and use frequently, new MRI w/ and w/o contrast and bone density test (was told everything was ok with both tests)
*See pain mgmt doc once a month
*ESI scheduled for 12/7/09
*Current meds: MsContinER 30mg 2x's day, Zanaflex 4mg 4x's day, Norco 7.5/325 for break thru 1-3/day, buspiron 75mg 2x's day, Cymbalta 60mgs, Klonopin .5mgs before bed, daily vitamin.

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Oh my, Jenny!! I hope that

Oh my, Jenny!! I hope that you are okay, as well as everyone else. I've actually been getting some good sleep the past few days, just so exhausted, but tonight no luck, lol. Anyways, again, I hope that everyone is doing okay, and kicking some viral butt!!

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stenosis C4/C5, protruding disc at C5/C6 with osteophyte complex, herniated disc at C6/C7
OA in neck, hip, knees
PTSD and Anxiety Disorder
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BUT NOT A DOCTOR!!! My thoughts are just that... my thoughts based solely on my experiences, so take them for what they're worth (and sometimes they may not be worth much) Sticking out tongue

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good morning Kelly!! Wave sorry about no sleep tonight.. glad you stopped by!! the forum has been quiet but i think alot of "kicking" has been going on! LOL!!! how are you feeling beyond not being able to sleep? try and get your rest atleast.. maybe a cup of hot tea and the radio? that is always my remedy!! LOL!! i am awake so i am not so sure how well it works! LOL!! take care!!
Ming, i wish you could get to feeling better. Thinking that flu is sure hanging on..hope all of you are well soon!! Big Grin i am just resting and getting myself ready for the next try at surgery! LOL!! take care of yourself and your sweet family.. Love Struck Jenny Smile

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