Oxycontin Vs MScontin

Oxycontin Vs MScontin

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Oxycontin Vs MScontin

So, I got a hold of my GP today. She switched my medication from oxycodone 20mg 2x a day, to MScontin 15mg 2x a day. I wonder how big of a difference this is? Thinking I was also told that when I stop in the office to pick up the new RX, to drop off my remaining oxycodones...I am assuming this is normal as well because I am on a pain contract. I was also up front with her over the phone and told her I took a couple extra doses of oxycodone during the day the past week, and she didnt say anything. My main concern is, does MScontin work? Have any of you tried it before? Im tired of having a hard time walking. My legs feel like jello, and I have to leave my little girl in her bouncer most of the day because Im afraid I will drop her. Sigh My only concern with the MScontin is I hope it doesnt make me feel like a zombie, since I am a stay at home mom. Hypnotized Flexeril would do that to me, and I cant handle that feeling. I just have a feeling this pain is getting so bad, Im going to be on disability before Im 30. ~X(

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Oxycontin vs MsContin

MominPain08

I really do not have any experience with MS Contin. But for the couple of years I was using Oxycontin, I had no problems and could function pretty much as normal.
I pulled this information from a pharmaceutical web site.

MS Contin
MS Contin is a time-released formulation of morphine,
(Morphine Sulfate Controlled-Release) usually taken every twelve hours for chronic pain. It is the brand name for morphine sulfate marketed by Purdue Pharma.
It is available in tablet and liquid formulas in doses of 15mg, 20mg, 30mg, 60mg, 100mg and 200mg. Due to its strength, it is typically prescribed to cancer patients and victims of severe but non-cognitive-damaging trauma.
Like its relative cousin OxyContin, MS Contin has been the subject of pharmacy robberies. It is considered particularly dangerous to recreational drug users who are unaware that the time-release mechanism is a wax inside of the pill (not the colored coating on the outside) that, when heated, expands and encases the morphine sulfate. The danger presented to drug users who prefer intravenous/intramuscular injection is the wax
MS Contin is a DEA Schedule II substance in the United States. Alternative formulations made and marketed by other pharmaceutical companies include King Pharmaceuticals Avinza and Alpharma Pharmaceuticals Kadian.

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OxyContin is in a group of drugs called narcotic pain relievers. It is similar to morphine.

OxyContin is used to treat moderate to severe pain. The extended-release form of this medication is for around-the-clock treatment of pain. It is not for treating pain just after a surgery unless you were already taking it before the surgery.

OxyContin may also be used for purposes other than those listed in this medication guide.
What is the most important information I should know about OxyContin?
OxyContin may be habit-forming and should be used only by the person it was prescribed for. OxyContin should never be given to another person, especially someone who has a history of drug abuse or addiction. Keep the medication in a secure place where others cannot get to it. Do not drink alcohol while you are taking OxyContin. Dangerous side effects or death can occur when alcohol is combined with a narcotic pain medicine. Check your food and medicine labels to be sure these products do not contain alcohol. Never take more than your prescribed dose of OxyContin. Tell your doctor if the medicine seems to stop working as well in relieving your pain. OxyContin can cause side effects that may impair your thinking or reactions. Be careful if you drive or do anything that requires you to be awake and alert. Do not stop using OxyContin suddenly, or you could have unpleasant withdrawal symptoms. Talk to your doctor about how to avoid withdrawal symptoms when stopping the medication.
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Not equivilant...

Oxycontin is stronger than MS Contin, so your MD lowered your opiate dose. Maybe that will help you be more alert. And Ive NEVER heard of turning old meds back in to the MD, as a RN or a patient!

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That is an odd request

That is an odd request indeed, I would only do so if I witnessed the destruction of those meds otherwise what is the doc doing with them?

They are lowering your dose, probably weaning you off as they often do.

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Good point! I wondered the

Good point! I wondered the same thing re: med disposal. I noticed you take freq oxycodone. Has your doc considered raising your ER meds & decreasing the short-acting one?

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After All.......

You did pay for that script.Not them.You are responsible enough to dispose of them...that is ridiculous!

*sorry :|

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BTW, it is illegal to dispense of controlled substances to *ANYONE* other than who the RX was written for, but you can walk into your Drs office and dispense of your unused meds in front of him. You can also refuse to do this at the risk of losing your PMD. You can also choose to take your medications and wait until you are ready for a refill before you switch medications. Patients have choices, we need not always be the victim simply because of our pain.

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Disposal

I have always been told by my PM to bring in remaining meds if they were switching my meds. Yes you pay for them and yes they really are yours, BUT there is that contract. They also have the responsiblity that you are not taking meds that they no longer want you to be taking. Usually when they switched me it was during the visit and they gave me the new RX and told me to bring in my remainder at the next visit since I lived 1.5 hrs away. I never took them back in. But YES it is in the contract so to speak. Plus they need to make sure you are NOT taking the meds they dont want you to take anymore. SO if she told you over the phone to bring them in you should otherwise they will NOT release the new RX.
MS Contin NEVER EVER worked for me. And you saying that the IV solution of Morphine didn't help you in the ER then I am guessing these wont work also. All I can suggest is that you try them, wait a few days so they can get into your system and then call and let your doc know your pain status.
With me it seems only the short acting have been effective for me. The Extended releases had so many different side effects for me. Either not working (I have a high Tolerance unfortunatly), I was up all night (that was usually the Methadone and the Oxycotin), crabby, no sex drive blah blah blah.
But DO bring your meds that she is taking you off of in when you get your RX. And again wait a few days for the meds to get into your system before you call your doc with an update as to how they are working. If you are in that much pain then your doc should also prescribe something for BT pain.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
MJ

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You should read the pain

You should read the pain contract,and see if it says anything about the dipsoal of the meds they want you to bring in...

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I'm sorry

MelissaJo.Your post makes perfect sense to me,but that just seems so condensending to me(lol)

"Plus they need to make sure you are NOT taking the meds they dont want you to take anymore"

I totally understand what you are saying here,but my gosh,they can't trust you that much!?Besides,I still think there ought to be some kind of law against having to give back what you already paid for.

My contract doesn't say anything like that,and if they ever ask me to bring my remainder in I would,but I would feel so indignant and humiliated.

I'm sorry MomInPain08
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Robin

I totally agree with you! I had paid over 100 bucks for Kadian. (My insurance only covers part at the counter, then I mail in the receipt and they send me a check for 80% of the out of pocket expense.) BUT STILL I had to come up with the $ first hand. SOME PM docs are pretty laid back and dont care. But with so many people out there that keep taking the med that is no longer prescribed or they sell the meds that are no longer prescribed screw it up for the rest of us. Little do some people know that if you sell your meds, it is a mandatory 25yr prison sentance. I would NEVER sell my meds, but some people do. I just wish they would get caught and go to prison so WE dont have to suffer the punishment. I swear in the next few years our docs are gonna make it where we have to go to the pharmacy to get our daily doses. LOL
I think if they want to take our unused portion of our meds back then they, the doc or pharmacy, should have to repay us for that portion. Another thing is that they could do a urine test a week AFTER they change our RX to be reassured that we are no longer taking the meds except for the new ones. I think it is stupid and honestly think it is just another way to "control" us.
My old PM always wanted to unused portion. I dont bring my meds with me in the vehicle except for that daily dose. You never know who might break into your car or anything like that. I got pulled over once and had meds in my purse that were in an unmarked container. The cop seen it when I was getting my drivers license out and looked at me all shifty eyed. I gave him my pharmacys number and he called to make sure that those meds were prescribed to me. WE are all considered Guilty unless proven innocent. That is by our docs and everyone else out there. It is stupid.

Other people screw it up for the ones that take our meds that are prescribed and as prescribed. It is crazy rediculous I know! Sigh I hate the rules. When my PM was trying to find an ER med that would help with less side effects I asked her to only fill a week or 2, just incase they didn't help or side effects out weighed the benefit. That way when and if I had to bring them back to her, I wasn't loosing too much money. It all sucks and personally I think it is their way of having control on us. It is a bunch of bull but I also understand where they are coming from. Like I said earlier they should just do a random urine test and have you come in (without an apt), and give a sample. And if the meds that you are not supposed to be taking are still in your system then htey should "fire you". Then again I had a urine test done on the first visit and they charged my ins 1100 buck. WTF kind of UA did they do. My god. And of course since it was due to an illness my ins only covered 800 of it. JERKS. MAn with that expensive of a UA they should be able to tell me everything I have ever needed to know about myself! LOL

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It is in my pain contract

that any unused meds are to be returned if my RX is changed by my request. It does upset me because yes I paid for those meds, and Im not looking to "get high" but at the same time, I do have to follow the contract otherwise Im stuck in pain. Its not a big deal this time, because I only have 5 left of my old pills, and I talked to her nurse this morning and she said the reason they are starting me off on a low dose is because I have never taken the meds before and with opiates they need to start you off with the lowest dose when switching medications. She told me if they dont work, to let her know asap. The one thing that bothers me about that though is she wrote the rx for a month's worth, so if they dont work, theres $35 down the drain. I guess overall its the price I pay literally to get relief. Sigh

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