Suboxone for Pain Mgmt

Suboxone for Pain Mgmt

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Suboxone for Pain Mgmt

Anyone else taking Suboxone for pain?

My Pain Mgmt Dr. just started me on Suboxone on Monday afternoon for pain relief from DDD, Stenosis and sciatic flareup.

Is anyone else currently prescribed Suboxone for their pain? I was curious as to the level of pain relief you are having and also what if any side effects are troublesome?

At first I had some dizziness and general feeling of being "Out of it". Hard to focus. That is getting better each day. However, I still have a feeling of being high. Pain relief is very good....better than Vicodin.

Richard J.
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DDD; Lumbar spinal stenosis; Osteoarthritis. Fusion of L4L5S1 in Feb 2005 titanium rods and screws. Current bulging/ protruding disc at L3L4 with compressed nerves resulting in foot drop in left foot; numbness tingling both legs neuropathy

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Robin
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Hello Richard

I sent you a PM.

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Talk to your doc!

Smile i have only known of the medication to be used to combat withdrawal symptoms from opiates. ~X( talk to your doctor about this! Call Jenny Smile

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I have heard

of Suboxone being used for pain. I have often wondered why it is not used more often instead of opiates since there should be no withdrawals from it. Maybe it is not safe long term?

MomInPain08 (not verified)
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I have never heard of it

Is it narcotic? I am glad to hear that you are receiving relief from it though. I wish I could find something to take that wasnt so strong for my back pain and was non-narcotic...still looking Thinking

pgcrswll (not verified)
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Oh there are most definately

Oh there are most definately withdrawals from it they are just more subtle than with straight opiates. Alot of people at my rehab had trouble with getting off suboxone with no opiates being taken for months. For me yes it did help a bit with pain but I was going through hellish opiate withdrawals which is what its made to combat. Honestly though yes im sure it helps with pain maybe on the level of tramadol

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just put on suboxone for pain management

chgorich wrote:
Anyone else taking Suboxone for pain?

My Pain Mgmt Dr. just started me on Suboxone on Monday afternoon for pain relief from DDD, Stenosis and sciatic flareup.

Is anyone else currently prescribed Suboxone for their pain? I was curious as to the level of pain relief you are having and also what if any side effects are troublesome?

At first I had some dizziness and general feeling of being "Out of it". Hard to focus. That is getting better each day. However, I still have a feeling of being high. Pain relief is very good....better than Vicodin.

Richard J.
Chicago
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DDD; Lumbar spinal stenosis; Osteoarthritis. Fusion of L4L5S1 in Feb 2005 titanium rods and screws. Current bulging/ protruding disc at L3L4 with compressed nerves resulting in foot drop in left foot; numbness tingling both legs neuropathy

I was also just put on suboxone for pain management yesterday. The doc talked about it's how well it handles pain, did not say anything about it's use for withdrawls, didn't know about that till I got home. I was shocked and wondered if he put me on it thinking I have an aditicion or really for pain. The first night with it was horrible, my pain was a mess, spiking constantly and I did take my normal ambien cr, which would usually give me 8 hrs. I was previously on oxycotin 30mg 3x day and diladid for breakthrough, i hadn't really had crazy pain problems until 3 weeks ago when they changed my to diladid from percocet for the break throughs. I went into ER on Wend night because i could not get it under control and was very rudely treated by the Er Doc. he just left me in the room at a level 10 wouldn't even give me an exam, just a lecture on doc shopping. i had already called my pm and set an apt for the next morning, this doc would not believe me until finally i got him to call my doc who then permited him to treat me. the next am at the PM he changed me to this suboxone. I am hoping this works and am going to give it the weekend, it is friday now and i know if i call the pm they will say it takes a few days for a new med to get into your system, went through that speech when they changed me to diladid. if anyone else has taken this for real pain management i would love to hear from you, right now i am confused.

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Hello rockabillychick

Read here what some people who take suboxone are commenting about this drug.

http://www.drugs.com/comments/buprenorphine-naloxone/suboxone-for-opiate-dependence.html

Good luck to you Smile

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Rockabilly Chick I'm sorry

Rockabilly Chick

I'm sorry that you had to go through that, the way pain management patients are treated in this country is "criminal".
I have done a great deal of research on subs, though accurate Western literature is hard to find. Suboxone was introduced in the US as a "opiate blocker" to help people addicted to opiates to get off of them. This is because it didn't make sense (money wise) to introduce a new pain pill into an already billion dollar industry (Oxycontin alone made 1.2 billion in 2007) of pain medication when there was only methadone to compete with in this market. However, suboxone was originally introduced as a pain medication in Europe and has been used for severe cancer, neuropathic, etc. pain (even for post op pain) for more than 10 years there and is available in a pain patch in every country but the US. I have been on suboxone for 10 months for pain management (it is used in the US (more rarely) as a secondary indication for pain) and it works better for me than the dilaudid & Fentaynl patch I was taking previously (for severe sciatica, related problems, & ovarian cancer with complications). I have had 2 instances of severe breakthrough pain in 10 months, and had a shot of morphine and a shot of Stadol (for the back). The biggest problem that I have encountered has been within the medical profession/pharmacists thinking I have drug addiction issues rather than pain management issues, and the treatment of pain, especially when they aren't familiar with my medical background, due to the aforementioned being introduced in the US as "opiate blocker". Suboxone is a powerful narcotic, it is a derivative thebaine, which is the same derivative of oxycontin, and sub. is approximately 25 to 40 times as strong as morphine, much stronger than the pain relief of tramadol. I believe the reason it works so well for me is that traditional opiates deplete the dopamine (natural painkiller) in the brain, thereby actually increasing pain perception over time, where suboxone heals the receptors damaged by long term opiate use ( I have been in & out of pain management with cancer & back problems since 2000) and restores natural dopamine levels. It also has antidepressant properties in some people, and for me it has worked in this capacity where no other antidepressant worked, possibly because my depression was related to the pain (?). The most important thing to know when taking suboxone is that if you do receive a shot of morphine at the hospital for severe breakthrough pain (or take any other opiate, although only morphine, dilaudid, & Fentanyl will work while on suboxone) is that if you don't wait a sufficient amount of time before taking suboxone again, you will suffer severe and irreversible "precipitated withdrawals" which I am told are horrible, but if you are careful and aware of how the medication works, this can easily be avoided without much discomfort. The other drawback is that the formulations of the drug suboxone in the US aren't designed for pain management, which makes dealing with breakthrough pain tricky. I hope this helps somewhat and I hope that suboxone works as well for you as it has for me, but if not, even taking it for a short while has some benefits. Best of Luck to you! peace&love J

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Very interesting

My pm Doc. and pain Phych. wanted me to give it a try because most meds work differently for me than other people. And I have bad side effects with most meds.
When posting a question on suboxone on the old forum. I got nothing positive and everything negative about it. Also I need more surgery And if I chose to get it. I was afraid of complications. So we opted for methadone instead. With a special hydrocodone compound for break through pain. And it is less than satisfactory for me.
Good luck, Jim

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more clear

I should have been more clear. My doc. wanted me to try the suboxone for pain management. Not to withdraw from opiates.He believes that there are pain management qualities not advertised with suboxone.
Jim

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