I have had 2 steriod injections for a herniated disc at L5-S1. About a week after each one, I started having bad leg cramps at night for a week to 10 days. Every night, several times a night. My doctor says he cannot come up with a connection but twice seems too much to be a coincidence to me. Also had a day or 2 of bad leg itching with some welts around this same timeframe. Anybody else have anything like this happen and get an explanation as to why? Thanks.
Hey Jaws,
I just wanted to let you know that I had the exact same thing happen to me, and my PM doc looked at me like I was crazy. I had never, ever had cramps before. They started right after the first shot, and were even worse after the second shot. And it was strange how it happened too. My left hand - and only the left - would cramp up into a "claw" about 20 times a day. That would make me laugh. But the lower-leg and foot cramps I started getting at night were not funny at all. I had a heck of a time getting them to go away.
Anyway, like I said, the PM doc said she didn't think it was from the shots, but now that the shots have worn off, I don't get them anymore, so I strongly disagree. I read Potassium and vitamin B12 might help, and so I tried it and it might have helped a bit.
Summer
I also had bad leg cramps after my last ESI....I actually had bilateral SI joint injections.....and I developed severe leg and foot cramps about two weeks later. I increased my liquid intake,water and powerade, started eating a banana every day and did my calf stretches. I am doing much better now...its been 5 weeks since my injections. There is a connection.....but I think its more of a side effect to the steroids. When I had single injections done...I had just a few leg cramps...but when I had two injections done the same day......holy cow!! I will never do that again!...I hope you get some relief.
Teri
i hav leg cramps, they are really bad, so the hospital prescribed quinine, it did help a little, but after a while the drug stopped working, like any drug i suppose your system gets used to it :
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Thanks for the comments. And yes, my PM doctor looked at me like I was crazy too. Question 2. Did anybody also then develop hives that were only on the legs. I think it is also connected, but again PM clinic says could be allergic to stuff in shots but would have hives all over. Thanks.
hiya
Yes i did but only on my right foot
, but both legs were very itchy
Angie
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wow my husband gets leg cramps at night they are really bad he screams and has to get out of bed and try to sleep in a chair. I did not connect the pain to PM shots Sacroiliac joint steroid injections. We are trying restless leg meds and minerals. He has had several injections over the past 4 years. He also had back surgery in 2000. Thanks for the posts I will watch to pain shots in the future.
I too have experienced leg cramps after epidural spinal injections of steroids. A few days after having the injection into two discs I cramped up many times every night in the calf. I had to jump out of bed and stand for a while to ward of the cramps. After a second set of injections a month later, the cramps in the calf stayed the same but I also got cramps in the thigh, hand and upper back.
I suffered from severe leg cramps for years until I started drinking more water!! That stopped them as long as I remembered to drink plenty of water.That also made me get up at night a lot....but not from leg cramps.
Then my Neurologist ordered a very expensive blood test for me(over $1,000.00!!) and it showed I needed B12. The B12 shots has stopped my leg cramps and I no longer have to drink water all day long!! Life is good now except for the savage leg and foot pain. I make sure I go for my B12 injections every month too.
Leg cramps are savage and I hope you find relief.
Best to you.
Hugssssssss
Patsy W
I am not a Doctor but I do watch House and Doc Martin on TV.
Never give up HOPE..June 18,2010 I had a pain pump implant....I now free of pain.
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Hiya,
Vitamin B12 is available at any health store
and most supermarkets sell them to
It also helps women who have bad monthlys
and helps with mood swings too
, you have to take it for about a month before you notice a change
, but check with your doctor first
Angie
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One site spoke about putting a bar of soap at the foot of your bed, between the sheets, heck, I thought he was playing a joke on me this morning when he asked me if I had tried it, but many folks swear by it. I am willing to make a fool out of myself by trying it, if it works, at least it's not another pill or injection. I have also just started taking Calcium, Magnesium and Vit D tablets. My Mom swears this issue is due to low Calcium issue. I just had 8 injections in my mid back about three weeks ago, but I have been having this issue prior to receiving the injections. Any time you alter the spine, muscles and chemistry with pain meds, you have to expect some serious side effects. Don't give up, even if your Doc looks at you like you are crazy! Take you significant other in to your appt with you and have them describe your agony from their point of view. That will shut him up!!
I had a three level fusion with 2 rods and 11 screws, and am worried that my right leg has nerve damage. I thought the cramps were from healing and increase in walking, muscles building up acid for lack of activity during recovery and such. But now I am rethinking that due to all I have read today. I do drink gatorade at night, I get so thirsty from the meds I take that water won't make the dry mouth go away, also drink mega amounts of water during the day. I do foot and leg stretches throughout the day, but to no avail. Most of the time I can feel the leg cramps coming on and most of the switch sleeping in bed and in the LazyBoy. If my feet aren't supported by a body pillow or if I stretch or more them the wrong way, the send my feet and calves into violent spasms. I am a pretty tuff cookie when it comes to pain, but these sometimes make me cray like a baby!
Sometimes my toes curl or they separate like Dr. Spocks famous vulcan greating. Last night I could tell it was coming because my foot actually felt like it had a headache and when I rolled over to switch positions (something I do about 10 times a night) it kicked into full spasm and I couldn't get it to stop for 30 minutes. I used to only get them at night, but now I get them during the day as well. Have any of you experienced swelling in your feet as well? I don't get it often, but when I do, it's pretty bad.
I will let you know how the soap works as well as the supplements I am just beginning the last two days. I see my surgeon this week and this is the first thing I plan to discuss with him!! Thanks for posting and helping me to understand this thing a bit better. Sorry to hear I have so much company in this suffering! Best wishes to you all!!
I'm glad I'm not going crazy! I've had two ESI's for my herniated L5-S1 disc. After the first shot I had some leg cramps but after the second the cramps are really bad. The calf muscle I've learned to deal with, but when both the calf and the muscle along the shin cramp up, I cannot move my foot in any direction. Lately, I've had both legs at the same time and it's a brutal way to wake up in the middle of the night. Prior to the ESI's I maybe had three leg cramps in 41 years. Since the shots I've had dozens and much more intense. I am qucikly loosing faith in these shots for fear of causing even more problems. It worries me that doctors don't list this as a possible side effect. What else are they missing?
I have had three L5-S1 injections in four months with exactly the same calf & shin cramping problem you describe. My right calf in particular would stay somewhat cramped for days afterward. I'm now experiencing shooting pain down my right calf and inside upper ankle, plus numbness in the outer toes and outside ankle. I've also recently noticed an occasional strange lightness in my hands and my right hand cramped up for about a minute earlier this evening. That never happened before. Feeling slightly "spastic" in my extremities and tire easily, making more mistakes when I type. Like you said, "What else are they missing?"
Welcome to Spine Health. Sorry to hear that you are experiencing such spasticity and pain issues. Are you under the care of a Pain Management doc, Surgeon or Neurologist? How long has it been since your last visit with your doc? Are you taking any meds to combat the spasms and pain?
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"C"
Thanks for the welcome. Yes, I have been under the care of a pain management doc over the past 4 months. Just went to see a new surgeon, as my former surgeon retired. Have another MRI scheduled this week. No other meds, except for occasional percocet and/or ibuprofen. Tried "leg cramps" homeopathic pills, but it's hard to say whether they work or not. Haven't had any bad bouts for a couple nights but right calf is still sore from the last cramp a few nights ago.
I've had trouble with leg cramps for years, but this thread made me start thinking about something.
I had a rhizotomy and steroid injections (at L5/S1 and SI joints) done in mid-October. Shortly afterwards, I was waking with the most incredible spasms where the hamstring attaches at the top of the leg; one morning I bent over too quickly and tore my hamstring. I also started having nasty spasms in my ankle as well, and this is also new; my ankle, especially my left one, will turn "inwards" and I almost have to manhandle it to get it to go straight again.
I hadn't put two and two together until I read a few posts here, but I am thinking that the increase in spasms might just have been related to my steroid injections, too.
Any information I provide is through personal experience ONLY....I am not a medical professional, though I could write a book on the impacts of chronic pain and the treatments I've tried!
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My neurosurgeon tried to do a simple exam about 30 minutes after having a lumbar ESI. As soon as he tried to straighten out my leg, both my hamstring and calf knotted up so bad it took my breath away.
Rainsgirl, the only non-prescription treatment I ever had any relief from was my husband rubbing tons and tons of heat rub into my seat and legs. It was only temporary, but long enough to allow me to fall asleep for a few hours. Glad you are under the care of a couple of docs.
"C"
My mom told me to rub a bar of soap on my legs where they were cramping. It worked. I also have heard of just putting a bar of soap at the foot of the bed, but never tried it.
TracyLynne-I have the cramping like you where the inside of my ankle goes down, and the outside of my foot is pulled up toward my hip. It takes forever to "walk it Off-and it leaves your calf sore for days.
For every minute you spend being angry, you lose 60 seconds of happiness.
I can induce a hamstring cramp anytime by bending my heel to my butt. I thought there must be some connection between that "skill" and the herniated disc I recently got an epidural shot for. According to this forum, it seems the shot, not the disc, is the cause. Originally, it was pain in my right leg that caused me to go to the doc. The day after the shot, I didn't have to take Vicodin anymore. Then, I started feeling tingling in my other calf, like small cramps. The next day my left calf was sore as hell. Anyway, at this point I'm happy to trade my previous leg pain for these cramping issues.
My PM confirmed steroid injections can cause this as a side effect. He didn't have any suggestions to help them other then heating pads, hot water, that type of thing. I was having horrible inner thigh to hip cramps. Guess they are coming back as I had another injection, but worth the temporary side effect for the results.
L4/L5 fusion sep 2009 for grade 2/3 spondy
multiple esi's/blocks rounds of PT
Hardware removal may 2011 due to continued pain
Yes, I noticed increased and significant leg cramps after a LESI. I have only had one injection. Mentioned this to the doctor on a follow up visit and he acted like he had never heard of this. Thought maybe it was a coincidence, but then recently had a shoulder steroid injection and the same thing is happening with the leg cramps that are SO intense during the night. So upon reading all the previous posts, and my own experience, I feel there is definitely a link between steroid injections and leg cramps. It must be the steroid, as opposed to injection site, as one was lumbar, the other was shoulder.
I've had 3 ESI injections, 10 - 14 days apart, last one on 2/18/11. I have not had one full night of sleep since due to 3 - 5 bouts of night leg cramping. I've had puffy face, weight gain, and now day time leg cramping (night cramping also continues). I've tried calcium, mag., D, bananas, sport drinks with electrolytes, under the tongue Highland Leg Cramp pills, more water, and finally sleeping with a heating pad on my feet. Rt leg gets it the worst, I'll try the bar of soap and get back to blog/post. (BTW - Back feels great for now, it's been 2 weeks since last injection) I'
My cramps/spasms settled once I started taking magnesium/malic acid again; i buy something called Myalgia-X (in Canada) and it's made a huge difference.
Right now it's a spasm in my shoulderblade that is driving me batty, despite massage, trigger point injections and my tennis ball!!
Tracy
Any information I provide is through personal experience ONLY....I am not a medical professional, though I could write a book on the impacts of chronic pain and the treatments I've tried!
We must be willing to let go of the life we have planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. ~E.M. Forster, Novelist
Seriously, rub the bar of soap on it. I know it sounds silly, but it works.
For every minute you spend being angry, you lose 60 seconds of happiness.
i've never head of this! does any soap work better than another?
Any information I provide is through personal experience ONLY....I am not a medical professional, though I could write a book on the impacts of chronic pain and the treatments I've tried!
We must be willing to let go of the life we have planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. ~E.M. Forster, Novelist
I have always had a problem with feet cramping at night if i dont drink enough water or too much white wine or champagne. Just thought it dehydration. Doctors offered no help, just take potassium or calcium or other supplements that never worked. about ten years ago i looked up leg cramps in a VERY old medical dictionary and they suggested a teaspoon of salt in a glass of water. Now when i get these cramps i go downstairs drink the nasty saltwater and the cramps are gone when i get back in bed.
Now.........I had my first steroid edipural injection over a month ago. Not realizing why the cramping got worse and worse and it was every night now and much more intense up in my thighs. My Doctor had me stop all meds to see if it was my BP meds or Naproxen for my knee arthritis. Ten days ago I had my second injection and two days after the most painful nights ever. I had a flash driving to work and had my husband google leg cramps steroid injections and we found all of you! I called my Pain Mgmt Doc and he confirmed what you all say. He said the cramping should stop in two weeks. Not quite there yet and still trying to find something to help at night. I guess I will try the B12 next.
God bless you all for the terrible pain, as only one who goes through it can relate.
I had my first steroidal injection in April and I am still having night cramps. Have yours gone away or did you find something to help? I had to get up this morning and get in a tub of warm water to finally get relief.
it's terrible dealing with that on top of all the other pain issues, but there are lots of people here with good recommendations!
Any information I provide is through personal experience ONLY....I am not a medical professional, though I could write a book on the impacts of chronic pain and the treatments I've tried!
We must be willing to let go of the life we have planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. ~E.M. Forster, Novelist
No, whatever bar soap you have handy. My mom also has leg cramps at night a lot, and she uses bar soap to stop hers.
I don't know what is is about rubbing the damp bar of soap on the area that is cramping actually does for it, but it always stops mine.
I guess sometimes those old fashioned treatments do work!!
I hope it helps you! If it does, please comment because I am sure people think this is crazy!!
For every minute you spend being angry, you lose 60 seconds of happiness.
I also experienced leg cramps two days after my spinal epidural. VERY PAINFUL. Thankfully only happen three nights. My doctor said he had never heard of it either. But I had two shots and it happened the same way both times! No more of those!
I found a cure for myself. Requip (rx) combined wtih Klonopin (rx) for sleeping. The requip helps with the cramps but keeps you up at night and the Klonopin helps you sleep. Rarely do I have cramps and when I do, I can laugh through them. However, if I forget to take them and the weather is foggy or overcast, or cold, I pay for it. So I try never to forget to take them.
Diagnosis for this treatment was "Restless Leg Syndrom", also, medication is also rx'd for patients with parkinson's disease.
I had an injection for the first time last week for a rupture at L5. The back pain has CONSIDERABLY improved... but last night, early evening I began with the most HORRENDOUS leg cramps. NOTHING helped and they continued all night and into this morning.
I have intermittently had leg cramps in the middle of the night as a symptom of low calcium... but this was DIFFERENT...
THis prompted me to search this morning to see if anyone else was experiencing the same thing post injection...
I'm not sure if I better or worse that it seems to be a symptom.
I've been down your road. I just wanted the same thing, just give me the pills to make it stop and let me be. Well, some 3 years later narcotics are completely useless to me. When I got to the point of 10 10mg pills a day, even I realized it was a problem. I've started down the road of LESI shots and they do work, fortunately for me for about a year. While they are not cost effective at all, its the other costs they we don't consider popping pills all day long. Your kidneys and liver and paying the price, and while I agree it is cheaper by far and works fabulously, take it from someone who has passed the point of no return. I was taking 30mg oxy's 3 times a day and no one could tell i was on meds. Most people couldn;t even function on that level of opiod. I suffered a bit, and started the shots. If they don't work, the Dr already told me i'm not a candidate for surgery, so that leaves me without a pot to piss in persay. But the bottom line is, try to get off the pills and patches, cause when they fail, and they will fail, you'll feel like you are falling down Mt Everest with the ensueing pain.
Good luck
As for all the people experience cramps, I can't say i've had those. I do get the feeling of what I'd call arthritis like pain in my joints when the iv drugs wear off. And i get some inflamation at the injection site, nothing abnormal. My bottom line has been that in the past, the few side effects were far more tolerable than the unbearable pain that was there before.
Good Luck
I had 2 epidural injections for a herniated disc in my neck. The first injection was on Aug 29,2011 i had no problems with cramps. I had the second injection on Sept 19,2011,and my first cramp started 5 days after the injection. I had a bad one last night at around 1 am. I had to wake my husband up to rub my right leg ,thigh and calf. My left leg shin area appeared to be num for sum reason. When i was able to stand on both legs i felt strange. I felt as if my left leg was num but just in the front.; I cramps were so bad i woke up out of a good sleep. I was scared that i might have blood clots in my leg. I contacted my pain management Doctor and ask him could it be a possible side effect. He told me yes!! he told me i should be in the clear in a week. It would have been nice if he would have told me this before hand. I will not have a 3rd injection. The Dr. advised me when it happens again to just stretch it out. how do you stretch pass the cramps.
I found this forum after waking up screaming from such severe leg cramps last night that I figured I'd google to find out if there was any explanation. I don't suppose you'll be surprised to learn I had my 2nd LESI injection 5 days ago! I have a L5/S1 spondy that was diagnosed almost a year ago and after the first injection I was really pleased with the relief, but now, after two injections, these horrible leg cramps have me wondering if I'll go for the third one!
has anyone ever had intense heel pain after steriod epidural, day two this pain is getting worse, cant bare weight on it, i never had this problem before, called pain doc, he told me to call family doc,and he told me to call pain doc, so i hung up.thanks Roxie
All of us having injections are just causing more scar tissue in those areas and causing more pain,problems, Rick ncpa
My doctor tried to pretend like he didn't know what I was talking about. I knew he did. He acted like it may have had something to do with something else. But he did prescribe flexeril to take at bedtime and it immediately relieved the problem. The cramping was weird. It included my feet. My arches would begin to hurt. Then my big toe would pull far away from my other toes. It was painful. But, again, the flexeril helped tremendously.
Wow after reading this I wonder if my injections were the innitial cause of my muscle spasms. Anyway I have annular tears at L3 & L4, disc herniations at L4/L5 and L5/S1. I have had marble sized knots/lump in my left outer upper calf since 1990 at least which my Chiro said was a result from disc probs at L4/L5.
I have been struggling with SEVERE muscle spasms so severe I actually fainted from the pain, collapsed smashed my face and hit my head on the way down. I worry I'll have a heart attack as they are so intense. I woke up still in spasm that lasted another half hour while I screamed. I googled "What do you do for night time muscle spasms?" and a bunch of people suggested using soap under your bottom bed sheets between your feet and knees. Well I actually wrapped the bars of soap (thanks hotels) to my calf where the knots are and all the way down my leg which actually relieves the "nerve bubbling" sensation and has helped with spasms. I saw on Dr Oz that he recommended lavendar soap under your sheets for RLS. My massage person said it helped her dads Restless Leg Syndrome (RLS) as well. I've told many friends and it has really helped them to use bar soap and it can't be Dove because of the cleansing cream. Ivory and hotel soaps work well.
A few yrs back a company I work with bought Matol which made the rather bitter drink called KM. It has been a god send for my muscle spasms for keeping them at bay as its full of potassium and bitters. I tend to be very acidic and this drink really helps. I still struggle with spasms and have to adjust my sitting all day & night to fight them off but they are soooooooo much better and the half hour ones are no longer. If you are acidic I find the spasms come back so eat lots of greens and drink electrolytes.
Hope that helps,
Cheers all.... yeah I know... keep the happy face on
@ Spatch55: Thanks for the info and the reminder of KM..I have been taking this product for a couple of years now but have not done so in recent months as I was not sure about this interfering with my Rx meds. I have purchased Myalgia-X as another memeber suggested so I will see about that. I am encouraged to try the bar of soap idea too. I was disheartened to have the cramping come back after 3 ESI's in 3 weeks. The severe cramping I had early on with my bulging disc were caused by all the inflammation with the sciatic nerve being pinched (S1,L5)and the continued cramping makes me think maybe the ESI's are not working. However, I no longer walk around hunched over like a monkey but am able to gently walk upright. This pain is better than the pain I had before. I do take Klonipin(sp?) as needed for RLS but I have not taken this during my back pain but perhaps that will help when the cramping, cold, achy feeling is worse at night.
I am not a doctor. The comments made here are of my own experience.