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MRI report of T spine

I have a lot of pain in this area

This is my MRI report
A very minimal conave deformity of the inderior endplate of T7 which ia chronic and benign. There are disc degenerative changes noted at T7-T8 where there is loss of disc space height and disc desiccation observed. Disc degenerative changes anteriorly at T8-T9 with marrow endplate changes are notedas well.A posterior desiccated disc extrusion centrally is noted at T7-T8 with mild dural sac compression and no direct cord impingement. a small left paracentral extrusion is present at T10-T11 without cord impingement. At T11-T12 a right paracentral extrusion is noted. This desiccated extrusion extend slightly above the disc space measuring 2 to 3 mm in size with mild right dural sac compression and mild anterior right cord flattening without canal stenosis

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rfei57

are you seeing a surgeon right now for your problems?If not you should at least see your pm to talk to him/her about your mri. There are definite problems there.Are you taking anything to help manage your pain? if not then maybe you want to talk to your pm about some kind of pain management.

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c4,5 c5,6 and c6,7 ACDF with titanium implants spinal stenosis and bone spurs april 16/08.herniations at T7,8 and T11,12 also L4,5and S1.car accident october 28th/08 whiplash.rearended hit and run. mri 2009 L2-3 posterior bulge,L3-4moderate posterior bulge,lateralizing to the right.Right lateral recess has moderate stenosis and left lateral recess has mild stenosis.L4-5has moderate posterior disc bulge.Moderate left,and right stenosis.Mild bilateral foraminal stenosis.L5-S1 disc bulge touching right S1 descending nerve root in right lateral recess.No significant foraminal or spinal stenosis.

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t-spine mri

I have seen two pm dr and have been on DILAUDID and soma for lower back and neck that is as bad as my
t-spine just now finding out about the t-spine I was in a weack 2006 and have had pain in my t-spine the drs all say that things not happen to that part of back but van vs semi in back in. The pain dr and neuro doc I have now did the mri they did think they would find anything, I have appt the Feb 25 with the neuro doc

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ya i here that

I was in an accident 2008 and was told the same thing. I have constant pain and tight muscles in my thoracic spine.My doctor is saying the same thing.I should give her this web site and have her start reading the posts on here and then have her tell me that nothing happens to that part of your back during an accident.I really hope that you get some help for you spine,i can really feel for your problems.Let us know how you make out at the doctors.

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c4,5 c5,6 and c6,7 ACDF with titanium implants spinal stenosis and bone spurs april 16/08.herniations at T7,8 and T11,12 also L4,5and S1.car accident october 28th/08 whiplash.rearended hit and run. mri 2009 L2-3 posterior bulge,L3-4moderate posterior bulge,lateralizing to the right.Right lateral recess has moderate stenosis and left lateral recess has mild stenosis.L4-5has moderate posterior disc bulge.Moderate left,and right stenosis.Mild bilateral foraminal stenosis.L5-S1 disc bulge touching right S1 descending nerve root in right lateral recess.No significant foraminal or spinal stenosis.

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I thank that not too much is

I thank that not too much is know about that part of the you have to have a doc that can do the T-spine

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My theory

I think they hesitate to investigate the t-spine area because unless there is significant trama they won't operate. It is so difficult for them to get in there. I think they tend to not want to identify a problem that they know they won't touch.

Sounds crazy but that's my theory. I was lucky that a radiologist saw my problem at the very edge of his study. It took three more doctors before I found one willing to look at the right area.

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T-Spine

My doctor told me that the neck/upper spine and the lower back are usually the areas that people suffer with the most. This is because those vertebraes are actualy hinges and move this way and that.

The T-Spine (thoracic area) is basically a cage; it is there to protect all our vital organs. As such, it does not move like the upper/lower spine does.

Because of that, usually (not always, but usually) something has to happen to the T-Spine before you start having problems in that area - for instance an accident or something like that. Another thing that will cause degeneration or arthritis in that area is poor posture.

It's good to hear that you have an appointment soon. What I would do, if I were in your shoes, is to write down any/all questions or concerns you may have at this point in time and discuss these with your doctor on the 25th.

What kind of problems is this presenting for you? Do you have pain or limitation from it?

I've got posterior T2-3 disc bulge. I don't really notice it much. I'm "guessing" it's either because my neck and low back pain is so bad that I don't notice it, or the pain meds I take for my neck and back are sufficient to cover any pain I may experience from that particular bulge... But then again, I do not think it is anything more than that - a bulge. It's not really pressing a nerve or anything. Sorry - I'm just thinking out loud here (if writing/typing could be considered "out loud"... ha ha)

At any rate, good luck with your upcoming doctor visit. I hope you are able to get some good answers to your questions at that time!

Keep us posted?

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That was my problem too my

That was my problem too my neck and low bad is in very bad shape so until they give me some more shots in my back that helped a little I always thank it is my low back making my upper back hurt

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The Thoracic area is a difficult area of the Spine

For the longest time, many doctors felt it was so difficult to have thoracic problems and if you did they wouldnt be that painful. Much of that was centered around the fact that the Thoracic disc's are basically attached to your ribs and make up your rib cage. So the strength there should prevent problems.

Well, that is far from the truth nowadays. Just look in the Thoracic are in these forums and you will see pages and pages of people dealing with thoracic problems.

It seems that many people have thoracic problems as a result of some trauma.

I've been dealing with thoracic disc problems for many years now. Mine were basically a result of the previous lumbar and cervical disc problems and surgeries.

Thoracic surgery is not a simple procedure. Many doctors have not even attempted them. There has been a lot of progress in making these surgeries somewhat easier.

In the past, what was involved, was opening up your chest, cracking your breastbone, deflating a lung , move it aside to get to the T-disc. And there were no guarantees at how successful that would be.

There are ways to manage and control thoracic disc problems, but that is something you need to discuss in detail with your doctors

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I disagree with jeauxbert doctor

I am not going to compare pain levels in thorasic vs. others but I have seen many people I know rehab from disc problems in neck and low back and avoid surgury and pain meds. I am yet to know anyone who has had much rehab luck with thorasic disc problems. i am sure they are out there but I have not met . I am floored by my t6/7 herniation and I always have high pain tolerance and I have prob. in cervical and lumbar that are all manageable. But everyone is different, but i would suspect in the next 10 years the thorasic spine will become much more of a diagnosis for pain than a mystery.

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Yes, I know I have a back

Yes, I know I have a back that is a mess form the neck to S-1 and with the T spine I have bad headaches and pain that goes in to the ribs and chest

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