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Collapsing deck of cards.

Hi I’m Geri and new. I have had 2 fusions on my lower back along with a lamy. My one Ortho said that my back looks like a collapsing deck of cards. And I would be in a wheelchair within 10 years. This was in 2011. I just had an upper and lower spine MRI done to check for possible MS. Anyway my T1-T12 all except for 2 discs have distal herniation. Could this be causing the numbness, spasms, and pain?  I had a surgeon recommend that I get Herrington Rods. They will have to pull me out of that possible wheelchair to make me  have that done. Has anyone have them?  I’m worried that my T reagon is going now. I’m 59 5’8 and 176lbs female. Thanks. Geri 



  • Hi Geri - you know, when I had my first MRI done many years ago, I was told that thoracic herniations were very rare.  It made a lot of sense since the majority of the weight bearing goes to the neck or lower back.  I am thinking that maybe you have scoliosis or a genetic situation?  If so, then you have probably seen a specialist regarding all of this?  I could be completely wrong, of course...

  • Hi Geri:  While thoracic herniation are rare, they do occur. My T7-9 where so bad that my neurosurgeon said it would eventually sever my spine.  I had a fusion in January of 2017.  I had the numbness, spasms and pain.  It is a major surgery with a long recovery (my surgeon said 2 years).  It did take care of the spasms and most of the pain, but the numbness persists.   Unfortunately I had another herniation in my lumbar region, had a laminectomy in November 2017.  Was doing great until March of this year when I had yet another herniation in my lumber. I was controlling my pain with CBD, but in the last couple of weeks the pain has become more intense.  I have an appointment at the end of the month with my surgeon.  I feel as if my spine is collapsing.  I'm a little older than you at 61, but still way too young to feel this bad.  Hope you find answers soon!

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  • memerainboltmemerainbolt IndianaPosts: 5,914

    Hello mammageri!!
    Welcome to Spine-Health

    There are 2 discussions where you might be able to find some answers. WLLady "my scoliosis" and xrobynx "my scoliosis and surgery". WLLady talks about rods but you could ask her what kind she has. 
    My back was described the same way, it is literally crumbling down plus being pulled by scoliosis. I'm 69 yrs. young and cannot have surgery. I am in a wheelchair most of the day but at least I can still walk.

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  • L4_L5LL4_L5 Posts: 1,307
    edited 07/08/2018 - 12:14 PM




    There is a surgeon in Pittsburgh who does minimally invasive surgery on herniated thoracic discs. 

    I can’t give out his name but if you google “minimally invasive thoracic herniated disc” his web site will be the first search result.

    His web site shows with illustrations how the procedure works.

    You’re only in the hospital overnight.

    He supposedly has an excellent reputation.

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