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MST Morphine addiction

AnonymousUserAAnonymousUser Posts: 49,578
edited 06/11/2012 - 7:26 AM in Pain Medications

I have a large right sided prolapsed L5/S1 disc, due for a discectomy on 9th January 2009.

My disc prolapsed on 4th September 2008 and I was immediatley put on 150mg MST morphine, Diclofenac (3 times a day) and valium (at night). I was off my head but I could walk!

Now, a few months later, and an MRI confirmation scan, I am due surgery in the next few weeks. Hurrah.

Meanwhile I hate the morphine. It controls my life. I have bought a tens machine and zap myself for one hour every evening, watching Voyager (Star Trek!). I think that helps.

From 150mg of morphine a day originally, I have now gone down 5mg at a time, and got to 20mg a day (10mg morning and evening). Next step 5mg morning and evening and then what ........? 5mg MST in the morning and 5mg Vallium at night? I don't know what to do but I want to be off the morphine before surgery, before the nurses take control of my pain relief and I know my body is horribly addicted. I do wish the doctors had told me this before they put me on it - I suppose I would have agreed, coz I couldn't sit or walk or do anything.

Am I addicted to the valium too? I know it helps me sleep. The diclofenac does nothing much but I would rather try and use that as my painkiller if I can.

Can anyone suggest a drug routine that will help to get me off the MST? Once I am down to 5mg twice a day, I am not sure what to do next.

Iget no help from my gp - they just write the scripts for whatever I want as long as I don't bother them. I hate this addiction. I hate being in pain but I hate morphine so much because it controls everything including my bowels, which is horrible. I want to go into hospital just on the diclofenac and may be the valium (can you be addicted to that?) and see if that is enough.

Cheers and thanks for reading.


  • There are many people with chronic pain who are dependent on narcotic meds such as morphine and valium. It's dependence not addiction. Don't worry if you go in the hospital with the small amount of meds you're on. You will be getting more when you're recovering from surgery. And also if your Dr. orders physio you may need these meds to do excercises and be able to move. You'll then be weaned off your meds slowly. I had whiplash years ago and I took valium for 9 months until I woke up one day free of pain and never used the valium again. I'm on morphine slow release 120 mg a day. I need these meds or else I don't think I'd be here now. I wish you all the best for your surgery. Take care and see you around the posts. Charry
    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
  • It's good to have you here. Charry is right, and also, people who take pain medicine on a regular basis have a very slim chance of getting addicted according to studies. Yes, it causes constipation and there are many products that help like Senokot, Colace, Miralax (rx) and Fleet suppositories for emergencies. If you can't stand the Morphine, there are other medications. I am on Fentanyl patches and Norco so I can function and have some quality of life. I have had 2 back surgeries, the last one being a 2 level fusion. I have been through all conservative treatments but I have been left with chronic, intractable pain.
    Please remember that people that use narcotics for recreational use (to get high) are addicts and drug abusers. You are not one of them.
    I hope your surgery goes well, and meanwhile you can request to change from the morphine to something else if you like. Take care, and we look forward to having you here.
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  • Thanks for both your replies.

    The horrible thing is that my body is addicted. When I stopped OMG I hit the wall running. I was in a terrible state - not pain-wise, just dt's. So this is why I feel I must get off this stuff as it is controlling my life.

    I want a pain-free existence obviously but through morphine. I am in the UK so I am not sure if all the other substitutes exist here.

    So, what I need to know is how to come off the morphine. After lowering it to 5mg twice a day, then what? MST doesn't come in lesser doses than 5mg. Do I try once a day? Do I just stop or what?

  • I'm just curious how a medication (Morphine) controls your life. Are you doing exactly as your Dr. instructed you to do? Do you practice unsafe usage i.e., taking more than prescribed? If not, your body is not horribly addicted, but Dependant. Valium is an addictive medication NOT unlike hundreds of other non-narcotic medications the DEA could care less about. Taken as prescribed by a knowledgeable Dr. and you will be just fine.

    My Dr. likes to use terms like awfully addictive? To me an addict is someone who unsafely uses a medication to achieve some psychological boost or high and uses medications in possibly harmful ways regardless of the possible outcomes. Under a good Dr's supervision becoming an addict while using possibly addictive medications, when taken exactly as prescribed are rare.

    This feeds in the Opophobic frenzy thats bound to leave millions needlessly to suffer.
  • That makes sense.

    My body is dependant and without it I do not know whether I would cope, ie walk, the basics! I don't unsafely use the medication. I have lowered my levels from 150mg daily to 20mg on my own with my own will-power. It is not easy and it scares me how difficult it is. I hate the night-sweats, the realistic dreams, the inability to actually wake up in the morning and my bowels.

    But... if I don't, my legs feel like someone has taken a blow-torch to them, my back aches constantly and I limp about 30 minutes behind everyone! Even my kids walk fast than me!

    I suppose, as a control freak, I like taking nothing. I like the ability to be in control of what I take and it was suddenly taken away from me with no choices to make at all. Hence why I am trying to take back control. If I can lose the morphine and still walk/sit/sleep then I will be happier. Does everyone with this problem have to resort to morphine?
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  • Pray that surgery is the solution to most all of your problems. I've been through the same experiences you have and not a real big fan of Morphine. The relief is negligible IMHO. I was on a quite higher dose than yourself and had no troubles coming off of it, metabolizing differently and probably a tad more opioid tolerant than you.

    Naivety to opoids at the beginning poses a problem for most pain patients. I weigh the good verses the bad, Job, and make no "deals." Quality of life and happiness is all I seek. I am chair bound without certain narcotic and non-narcotic medications. Hopefully theres proof so you don't have to go through all the psychosomatic BS so many patients face.

    It's hard to be new and improved when a thousand years ago the Roman pain patients had not the misnomers and falsified scientific studies that would only :W substantiate the abuse being dolled out in today's medicinal "wonder drugs."

    1973 was a very bad year for pain patients and the stigma they face. Pharmaceutical Companies Rule. Get well soon. :W
  • Why get off the morphine? Isn't it helping you? Don't look at it as a weakness; but rather that the strength of your wisdom allows you to make the best decision, and to use the medicine you need to live a happy, pain free life. Don't fight it! Good luck with the surgery!

  • I hear what you are saying and appreciate your comments.

    I will keep taking the stuff until after surgery and I am "pain-free" in theory.

    I don't want to stop only to be put back on it after surgery anyway. It is hard enough to come off it anyway, so to do this twice for the sake of a couple of weeks, is ridiculous.

    One thing though, I itch - my eyes itch alot. Anyone else have that? I take an anti-histamine, which helps but it is yet another wretched pill into my body.

    Frances x
  • valium are very addicting, i am on them myself, its hard to cut down, they cause muscle spasms as your going down on them... its horrible even a small amount. my doctor says it should be cut down very slowly over months or years and i take 2 a day and he still says i have to take it really slow due to my muscle spasms and back pain. i downloaded a book called the benzo book, very interesting.

    this is just my personal advice as i am not a doctor.

    I hope you feel better soon.

  • does anyone know the most morphine in the slow release form you can take morning and night i take 8 60 mg twice a day and am still in incredible pain
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