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Prolotherapy?

fritz925ffritz925 Posts: 2
edited 06/11/2012 - 7:43 AM in Neck Pain: Cervical
Hi everyone,
Wow, it's been a few years since I've been on these boards! I had three back surgeries in 2005-2006:
1. C6-7 fusion with plate and screws, 07/2005
2. C5-6 PCM disc, 07/2006
3. L5-S1 fusion with rods and screws for high-grade spondylolisthesis, 08/2006

My back's in pretty good shape these days, but I've had nagging shoulder pain for about a year and a half. MRI and MRI with contrast don't show anything wrong with the shoulder and x-rays and MRI of my neck don't show problems there. The best diagnosis I have gotten so far is instability of my shoulder--and surgery was recommended. I've done three rounds of PT and it hasn't helped.

I had an epidural at C6-7 a couple of weeks ago, because the doctors thought the shoulder pain might have been coming from my neck. Apparently, it really *is* the shoulder...'cause the epidural didn't do anything. (Hooray! Kind of...)

I do not want to sign up for shoulder surgery when I don't have a strong and clear diagnosis; and I'm thinking about trying prolotherapy.

Has anybody done it? I just heard about it and plan to bring it up with my doctor...do doctors recoil at this sort of thing?
Thanks so much!
Emily
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Comments

  • I had never heard of it until your post. I did some research and it sounds pretty cool. I hope it works for you, if you choose to do it. Keep us posted!

    Best Wishes,
    Traci
  • Thanks! I'm planning to ask my pain doctor about it on Tuesday. I can't find much that's negative on it--which makes me a little skeptical.

    It seems that Medicare doesn't cover it because it doesn't have enough research that backs it up. But it looks like the research issues had more to do with not establishing good controls. Most insurance companies apparently consider it experimental.

    I'll let ya know if I go forward with this. Right now, it sounds like a pretty good option...or at least one that can't be worse than failed epidurals and PT that doesn't work!

    I have some awesomely strong shoulders right now...unfortunately one of them still hurts. Grrr.
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  • I also have alot of shoulder issues that they thought came from my spine. I'm curious about what type of surgery they want to do? I also had rotator cuff surgery because the symptoms pointed to that but they couldn't find much of a tear.
  • Hi, I'm getting prolo done on my lumbar and had done alot of research into prolo before proceeding with it.
    It has helped me alot. I will post back with more info tomorrow but if I were you I would consider prolo before surgery. Google Go to AAOMED.ORG and read about it there.

    Do you have any specific questions that I might help you with .
    O

    post edited by tam for violation of spine-health forum rules. You agree not to post specific physician names on Spine-Health.com.
  • I think you will get the lecture about "there are no conclusive studies that prove prolotherapy is effective..." from the traditional physicians regarding prolo. At least that has been my experience!

    There seem to be little pockets of its use around the US. Its use seems to spread by word of mouth. One patient gets good results, and tells a friends who tries it...etc. I happen to live in an area where there are several practioners who have published books on the topic and are considered "experts" in the field, so it is better known here than elsewhere...and yet, both my surgeons were less than helpful when I asked about it.

    There are some articles on this site that might interest you, even though they pertain to lumbar issues:
    http://www.spine-health.com/treatment/injections/some-studies-have-linked-prolotherapy-low-back-pain-relief

    http://www.spine-health.com/treatment/injections/prolotherapy-and-chronic-back-pain
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  • double post
  • Sorry for breaking a rule Moderator, I will remember that.


    Some links to Orgs

    http://www.acopms.com/

    http://www.aaomed.org/page.asp?id=28&name=Prolotherapy&link_id=8

    http://www.aaomed.org/page.asp?id=36&name=Library&link_id=20

    General Info on Prolo:
    http://www.getprolo.com/

    The Journal of Prolo:
    http://www.journalofprolotherapy.com/index.php

    Also you can search on "Prolotherapy" at Youtube

    Don't know whether or not this applies but
    woman who are going through menopause can
    experience mysterious shoulder pain.

    Hope this helps,
    O
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