Welcome, Friend!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

advertisement

Quick Start Forum Video Tutorial

    Forum-Tutorial-Screenshot
Protect anonymity
We strongly suggest that members do not include their email addresses. Once that is published , your email address is available to anyone on the internet , including hackers.

Notice
All discussions and comments that contain an external URL will be automatically moved to the spam queue. No external URL pointing to a medical web site is permitted. Forum rules also indicate that you need prior moderator approval. If you are going to post an external URL, contact one of the moderators to get their approval.
There are no medical professionals on this forum side of the site. Therefore, no one is capable or permitted to provide any type of medical advice.
This includes any analysis, interpretation, or advice based on any diagnostic test

The main site has all the formal medical articles and videos for you to research on.
advertisement

7 hern. disks 4 years of pain just now getting help, HELP WITH QUESTIONS

AnonymousUserAAnonymousUser Posts: 49,322
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:55 AM in Lower Back Pain
Hi I'm Christy and am 28 years old. In 2007 I hurt by back...I didn't do anything that was out of the normal for me. I was cleaning over memorial day and the next day I was in so much pain I left work and was crying all the way home...I couldn't breath. It felt like someone was kicking me over and over again in the kidneys (lower back).

After seeing a jerk doctor (where I live they are all pretty much jerk doctors.) I got an Exray and MRI and according to what he said I had 1 hurniated disk. I lost my job and couldn't pay for a doctor anymore so I went to a family chiropractor who got me up and walking again after 3 months...which was great. I got another job and have had two beautiful daughters. But the pain has stayed. I visited the chiropractor so much he sotpped charging us. So I went constantly till the pain got to where I could mange it with 800mg IB Profin and pretty much sitting to do everything in my life.

In 4 years I have gained 100lbs because I can't move or stand longer than 5 min with out being in pain for hours afterwards.(If I walk longer than 15 min I can't move for the next few days and have to sit around the house in so much pain I just cry till it finally goes down back to normal)

But I recentlly decided to go back to school...and after one semester I couldn't handle the pain anymore. So I said enough was enough. I went to a new doc who got an MRI and found out I now (or always have had) 7 herniated disks. Starting from T11 to S1 with "Marginal impression on the anterior left thecal sac and left S1 nerve root.

I was sent to a specialist to get an EMG, but he decided to give me muscle relaxers instead, which braught be back to the pain I was in 4 years ago, my chiro said it was because the muscles I had built over the injury are now relaxed I'm feeling all the pain from the injuries.

So now in 6 days I'm going to go see a Nuro Surgion. I'm scared because I'm not sure If he is going to want to do surgery or not and I'm not sure what to do if he says he does/doesn't

Does traction work well for Herniated disks and thecal sac impression?

I have to go back to school...would a wheelchair work until I can get back to walking again? (my mom is afraid I'll get lazy and never walk again)

Does P/T work?

Can I parallize myself if I don't have the surgery?

I'm so lost and upset...and the pain is keeping me stuck in the house to the point where Vicodin doesn't even work to kill the pain most days. I'm so afraid I'm going to get a jerk neuro surgeon who won't listen to me...like most other doctors here.

Any help any advice would be great!

Thanks
advertisement

Comments

  • Wow 100 lbs is a lot to gain. I would try to lose that weight before trying anything else. It may not make you better, but it I'm sure it won't make you worse. I too gained about maybe 20 lbs after injuring my back (bulging disc), but that was because I was depressed and eating was my only way of getting any fulfillment. I found myself eating a lot of junk food and it felt great. I now have much greater control over what I eat and lost about 10 of those 20 lbs so far. I tried a variation of traction and it didn't do anything for me. I also tried PT and it helps a little, but it didn't permanently fix my condition. I've never heard of anyone becoming paralyzed as a result of the problems you described.
  • Not being able to walk makes it near impossible to get any muscles working again. Loosing weight will help on recovery, but please see the NS first. You may need immediate surgery (we are not MD's and can't offer advice).... The NS will likely order more test and should point you in the direction of a better treatment plan. You may need to see more than 1 NS. Getting a second opinion is usually a good idea.

    My NS told me not to worry about the weight (I was about 50# over weight when it started)- when we feel better we are more active. If your pain is that bad then some one will probably start you on some kind of pain control. Vicodin was what I was taking a long time ago. I was taking the max doses when I was taken into PM and they changed me to much more effective meds.

    My newer pain meds started last year has helped my loose around 30 lbs. I feel a little nauseated and I am more active than I used to be (pain and all).

    Traction can help with certain injuries. I would only do it with a PT person (not a chiro) and only after you have seen the surgeon. Some times certain treatments can make things worse.

    Good luck,

    Julie
  • advertisement
  • Thanks for the advice, I understand that you can't give straight out advice, but being able to get first hand experiences does help a lot.

    Yeah I'm on a pretty strong dose of Vicodin right now and it brings the pain down to a level that I can actually sit down instead of just laying out on the bed on my side.

    My biggest dreams are to get up and going and become a chef and be able to stand up in the kitchen and cook to my hearts content and open a restaurant...but I can't do that until I can get my back pain to go away and I can stand for longer than a few minutes at a time.

    One of my husbands co workers has some herniated disks and had traction and it got him back up and walking with in 6 months without much issues. So that is what I'm hoping for. But I am starting my next semester of school in 4 weeks...I need to find a way to get too and from school and classrooms in the mean time.

    Has anyone gotten the spinal block injections that help with the pain? I'm interested in knowing how it went and if it worked well?
  • Wow, I love how after the long post about my back issues...the one thing you choose to write the most about in your response is about my weight gain...I would not have added the 100lb comment if it wasn't something I was already aware of as being a problem. No one really chooses to gain that amount of weight without knowing it isn't a good thing...I have tried to go to the gym and tried walking, weight loss programs, weight watchers, slim fast, Ect...

    However, having a 20lb emotional eating issues has nothing to do with the fact that my not being able to exercise or get out of the chairs for 4 years has (and two pregnancies)has kept me from keeping the weight off like I did when I was younger.

    I would love to be able to find a way of getting the weight off with out being laid out in bed for 3 days after attempting to exercise. If you have some kind of advice to that regard, than great. I'm pretty sure injuring myself further while trying to get the weight off would make it worse!



  • Wanted to welcome you here to spine health. I am sorry that you had a bad experience before with your earlier doctor that was not of any help to you.
    Glad that you will be getting in to see a neurosurgeon in 6 days. Alot of times, unless surgery is an emergency they will recomend trying physio, traction, ESI's.

    People seem to have different results from the conservative measures, it helps some, others not. I tried physio, traction, and ESI's and unfortunately they did not help me. It is a good idea to get more than one opinion from a fellowship trained orthopedic or neurosurgeon.

    You are dealing with a large number of herniations. I wish you all the best, and look forward to hearing more from you. Please let us know how it goes at your appointment.

    >:D< Karen
    >:D< >:-D< : Karen
    L3-S1 herniation and bulges, stenosis, mod facet,ddd,impinged nerves,coccydinia
    discectomy/lami July 2011-unsuccessful
    adr L5-S1 Feb 2012
  • advertisement
  • I read your post carefully and not sure what to make of it. You say you lost your job because back pain got very severe, You are considering starting classes when you cant walk and considering geting around in a wheel chair posibly and your question is will a wheelchair work? Well i guess a wheelchair will work unless it has a flat tire or something. Dont be angry that the person responded about the exta 100 pound weight gain. After reading that you have multiple bulging discs and if by some chance you become a candidate for fusion surgery i am sure that might have been the only reason that person mentioned the issues that can cause for fusion surgery.

    But either way i am just wondering why you have not seen a pain management dr to get the pain under control with posible injections before sighning up for classes and having to go in a wheelchair? Or even doing the traction if it helped someone you knew. I would think fixing the problem would be priority right now or at least geting the right kind of pain management before starting classes. And if you do end up having to have surgery which i dont wish on anyone unless of course it helps. Hopefully even having multiple bulging disc not all are the cause of the pain and can be fixed wirh min invasive surgery to resolve it.

    You have to remember spine is very complicated and nobody knows how the outcome will be after surgery. Good luck
    Flexicore ADR 2004 resulting nerve damage l4l5 Fusion 2006 same level, 2009 hardware removal with lami !
    2012 scs implant ,
  • The most important thing is to see a Pain Management Dr. and get the injections and the pain meds so you'll be able to walk. I used a walker with a seat and it got me out there walking so I could lose some weight but you need pain meds and perhaps injections after.

    I even stopped seeing my first Pain Dr. when he kept complaineing about my weight and how the tissue was so thick to get the needele in! |Funny how the second pain Dr. had no trouble.

    Pohlergirl don't give up and look for a Pain Dr. or your Family Dr. to help with pain meds. Take care Charry
    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
  • alexhurting said:
    I read your post carefully and not sure what to make of it. You say you lost your job because back pain got very severe, You are considering starting classes when you cant walk and considering geting around in a wheel chair posibly and your question is will a wheelchair work? Well i guess a wheelchair will work unless it has a flat tire or something. Dont be angry that the person responded about the exta 100 pound weight gain. After reading that you have multiple bulging discs and if by some chance you become a candidate for fusion surgery i am sure that might have been the only reason that person mentioned the issues that can cause for fusion surgery.

    But either way i am just wondering why you have not seen a pain management dr to get the pain under control with posible injections before sighning up for classes and having to go in a wheelchair? Or even doing the traction if it helped someone you knew. I would think fixing the problem would be priority right now or at least geting the right kind of pain management before starting classes. And if you do end up having to have surgery which i dont wish on anyone unless of course it helps. Hopefully even having multiple bulging disc not all are the cause of the pain and can be fixed wirh min invasive surgery to resolve it.

    You have to remember spine is very complicated and nobody knows how the outcome will be after surgery. Good luck
    I have seen over 10 different doctors in the past 4 years. Each one prior to now has told me, "you probably have a pulled muscle, here is some muscle relaxers and IB Profin and come back in 6 weeks if it doesn't get better." Or, "Well, having a back injury is going to cause you pain...have you considered P/T?" Each time I was blown off and told that it was a minor deal and that simple things like going to P/T where they stick me on a stationary bike(which left me in huge pain for days) and hook me up to a Tense Unit for 20 min is going to make my back better. Or the worst, " have you considered eating less and exercising more? Loose the weight and you'll feel better" Yet no doctor was willing to take the time to help me find a WAY TO LOOSE THE WEIGHT WITH OUT BEING IN PAIN!!!
    The only person who has done anything to make me better has been my Chiropractor.

    Let me explain...I live in South Texas, 10 minutes from the border of Mexico. We are known here for our Winter Texans, who come here 4 months out of the year. We have huge hospitals and lots of help if you have heart problems and arthritis. Our medical costs are 35% higher here than in any other part of the USA. Because here a large majority of the doctors are only here because they have completed there medical education in Mexico and have killed or screwed up enough in Mexico to finally get a practice in the USA. It sounds crazy but it's the truth!

    Let me start over. Yes weight is a pretty touchy subject for me due to the fact that I have tried everything I can think of to get the weight off and nothing has worked I can't exercize, I eat really healthy food with occasional burger or pizza but with in reason, it just seams like everyone seams to think that loosing weight is the automatic answer to my back problems. BUT IT'S NOT!!!! I have to be able to move before I can loose weight...yes my bad for putting it on the post if I wasn't going to be able to handle someone commenting on it. I apologize. However, I am also a 6ft tall woman who has been "big" her whole life...two pregnancies later I have also not been able to get off the weight that I was able to when I was younger due to the fact that walking, exercising and everything else has been so hard to do.

    I have pretty much tried it all to loose the weight and it is a constant battle for me...much like the back pain. My Chiro got me up and walking and out of most of my pain for close to a year. Comparing the x-rays from back in 2007 and the one I got last month...he has done wonders for my spine. However, the pain dulls for a while and then comes back...I also have become a stay at home mom who didn't have to stand for a long time either, when I felt pain I laid down till it went away. I admit I have been ignoring this problem for so long because I was sure that there was never a doctor out there that would actually listen to me and take the time to find the root of the problem. I have had multiple doctors tell me "It's all in your head."

    I have filed multiple complaints with there hospitals, boards and finally just gave up and assumed I would always be like this.

    My pain was limited to standing and walking (long distances) and bending over to long...until the Neurologist that was ordered to give me an EMG to find the root of the nerve pinch in my right leg (one going for 3 years) decided that he knew better than the PCP and gave me some kind of KILLER Muscle relaxers and told me he didn't think he wanted to do the EMG and sent me home. After 3 days of taking them I found that I couldn't sit, stand, lay down, walk or anything with out pain. I don't know what kind of CRYPTONITE that doctor gave me but it screwed me up bad.

    This past semester at school while walking a long distance from the parking lot (this was before the muscle relaxers) I had a pain go from what felt like my tail bone to my little toe on my right foot...then my leg almost fell out from under me and I couldn't walk into class for another half an hour. Later in the semester I started to find that I would loose some bladder control after sitting for a long time during class. There is a counselor at school that is in a wheelchair and after telling him about some of my back issues he told me about his and what had led him to being in the wheelchair he told me that he had control issues and if I ever had the same problems to not wait and go to the doctor immediately! So when I started to see those things I knew I had to do SOMETHING.

    So to make this really long post shorter, I finally saw a doctor who normally gets Workmans Comp cases, who in his words, sees enough Phoney back injuries to know a real one when he sees it...to do something.

    After saying all of that let me say what my real questions are.

    1. Has anyone had the spinal nerve block? Did it work for you?

    2. Have you ever resorted to a wheelchair? Did it make the problem worse? Is walking better or worse for your back problems?

    3. Is there any other ideas out there to try for pain management other than P/T, spinal block, strong pain pills...etc...I don't want to be drugged up and trying to go to school.

    Maybe forums are not the best way of trying to get advice, maybe i'm just not good at poring my heart out about this because every time I do I get burned.
  • Nerve block i had plenty= it works only for short time usualy because its mainly to test see where the pain is coming from. But there are many other injections they use to help with the pain to help reduce the inflammation which most of the time reduce the pain.

    Wheelchair= its never good once you are having to use the wheelchair. Your leg muscles get weaker and legs get lazy. Most of us i think will do just about anything to stay on our feet even if with injections along with medications.

    Walking usualy for most makes back pain worse of course, But then again it all depends on a persons spine condition. Sometimes the walking can actualy help free up the nerve involved by having beter muscle strength.

    I understand your frustration because many of us have gone through the same thing as you mention and dr,s are not always understanding about pain especialy if they cant find it so then they dont want to believe its there. Thats nothing new.

    Been there done that trust me. And about a forum might not be a good place to get advice and vent. Well we do it all the time and we sometimes get some good advice and we lay it out there and its not about geting burned, sometimes its just about we sometimes need a reality check with the help from others.

    Best advice to you was find a pain specialist to stay out of the wheelchair and continue following up with a good neuro or ortho dr to resolve the issue. If you already tried all other alternative treatments and it did not work i dont think we can realy tell you what other you should do not knowing your detailed spine condition.

    There are many of us here who understand how hard it is with back pain and the long road sometimes of geting the rigt help. And trust me this is the last place anyone will judge anyone on weight gain or anything else. So there is no reason to be over sensative about any such issues among many other issues people have.

    With spine condition affecting some people sexual dissfunction or bladder control and who knows what else. So weight gain is probably come in very last on the list if it comes on the list at all.

    We all want you to get beter and find the best treatment and hopefully the site will help with your concerns and find the best treatment out there and you will have peoples suport while doing it.

    But it will help if you drop the sarcastic. Jeez, and Why someone from such long post only responded about the weight gain part of your post. I think you said you was from Texas. I know everything is biger in Texas so is the attitude lol.

    Best wishes.
    Flexicore ADR 2004 resulting nerve damage l4l5 Fusion 2006 same level, 2009 hardware removal with lami !
    2012 scs implant ,
  • One thing I want to caution you about is when you begin having bladder issues you need to seek out a urologist and let them run the test as to what is going on. I myself developed bladder issues a year ago and did all of the testing, while yes I have a well documented spine issue, it is important that nothing more serious is missed. It is easy to assume that something could be caused by the spine, which my greatest fear is they assume that and miss something in the bigger picture. A urologist can run test and figure out where the issues is coming from, which if it is your spine, then the spine doctor will know it is a more serious issue. I know when mine developed first thing my spine surgeon asked have I had urological work up.
advertisement
This discussion has been closed.
Sign In or Register to comment.