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Chronic Thoracic Spine/Lateral Muscle Pain and Spasms, 2+ years--getting worse as time passes, HELP!

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  • SarahLSSarahL Posts: 3
    edited 09/12/2014 - 9:37 PM
    The other time in my life when I had this badly was when I was breast feeding (bad posture! Hunched foward!!) and my pelvis was out so I was restricted all over the place - perhaps get checked to make sure you are not out somewhere else? Like my pelvis, which squashes my right side and puts extra strain on the left side , and causes long term damage to everything else - like the fascia

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  • SarahLSSarahL Posts: 3
    edited 09/12/2014 - 9:26 PM
    Also, I take amitriptyline for the pain. If you were to ask your dr they might think your barking mad, but research shows that Myofascial pain is 1000x worse than normal pain and doesn't respond to traditional painkillers. Amitrip is an old school anti depressant, but taken in low dosages (10mg) is blocks the pain receptors in the brain and helps with myofascial pain. Some drs hate it and won't use it, but for me its been a blessing :-)
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  • LizLiz Posts: 9,658
    edited 09/12/2014 - 9:44 PM

    Liz, Spine-health Moderator

    Spinal stenosis since 1995
    Lumber decompression surgery S1 L5-L3[1996]
    Cervical stenosis, so far avoided surgery
  • I was diagnosed with Scoliosis Thoracic Kyphosis, 2yrs. ago Im 43yrs. today, I also have severe arthritis from C2 to C7,I was in so much pain I couldnt lift my head, Im not into pain killers,the only pain killer I take is Advil and very little of that because of Nsaid risk.I have tried so many thing and research so many things trying to help my pain.I KNOW that debilitating,link locked,breathing pain. nobody understands severe back pain unless you had it, it makes you depressed,especially when your young.Well finally I have found a cocktail of vitamins that has alleviated my pain to 10% He is what I take daily at night before bed, a trio of Calcium,Magnesium and zinc, it comes in 1 pill, I also take 1 Turmeric caspule,and I take 1 Olive leaf Capsule
    , and I take 1 Mullein capsule. all these vitamins will cost you less than $ 20 for 3 mths, very inexpensive for your health.I did the deep tissue massages and yes they help , but expensive for as frequent people with Thoracic issues,I did the chiropractor, it helped a little and that too was getting to be expensive.So This is what I use and have been using this for over a month, and my pain is very tolerable.in fact I feel better than I have in 2 yrs.I wish you well , I hope the vitamins help you as they help me.
  • I know I might be a day late and a dollar shirt in this one seeing as this post is a couple of years old but almost ALL of your symptoms are in line with a genetic arthritic disease called ankylosing spondylitis. The back pain and the pressure on your ribs and your age of onset are what clued me in. How do I know? Because I have it. Tell your doctor to give you an arthritis panel blood test that looks for the HLA B-27 gene. For more information, goggle it. Good luck.
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  • Is there anyone out there who has suffered severe lower thoracic (t10-t11) pain for over a year? I was injured when I went mid air on some ice (concrete) and landed on back and head. Suffered several injuries the worst being a herniation with schmorls node at t10-t11. Also a concussion. I am middle aged and have been extremely active my whole life prior to this fall. I have worked out since my teens and my job is physical as well. Over the past year I have been through physical therapy,, 2rounds including aqua therapy, 7 pain shots, chiropractic care and numerous medications. Unfortunately my last therapist put me under too much weight in traction and the pain has increased even more. How can a perfectly healthy individual be in so much pain after all this? I can lift nothing over ten lbs and even through stretching and exercise cannot get my strength back. I never sleep through the night due to the pain. I do NOT lay around as I have heard this is the worst thing for your back. If anyone out there has ideas I would be most grateful if you share your information. My quality of life is pathetic. I hate to think I will be on pain meds and nerve meds the rest of my life. Anyone? Thank you for reading and listening to me vent.
    Unrelenting pain
  • it is the worst pain and suffering, noone understands untill u go through it.
  • mb7716 said:
    I apologize in advance for the length of this question, but I am getting desperate for answers, and I included as much detail as I could. Thank you in advance for your help.
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    I am a 28 year old female. 6' tall and 205 pounds.

    I consider myself active: I attend jiu jitsu classes twice weekly and lift free weights and cardio at the gym twice weekly.

    My profession is a photographer: about 20percent of my time is spent behind the camera, the other 80percent of the time is at a desk, editing photos on a computer.

    Two years ago, I noticed a pain in my left midback region that felt like something was pushing on my lung with every breath, especially deep breaths. Almost like someone is digging their knuckles into the spot where my lat muscle meets my spine: close to the bottom of the shoulder blade.

    I suspected that this was some sort of minor injury because of my sport-- jiu jitsu is very close contact grappling. At the time, the pain wasn't severe enough to make me worry, and so I (stupidly) ignored it, thinking it would go away on it's own.

    Fast forward a year and six months later, and the pushing-pain still exists, except multiplied ten times greater. When it gets BAD, it sends my muscles on the left side of my back into spasm and makes it extremely painful to even take a small breath. When I am tired after a long day, my back will begin to spasm for no reason. The spasming seems to have a direct connection to this "pushing" feeling that I'm having in my mid-back. Even when my back is not full-on spasming, the pushing feeling is still there.

    This pushing feeling is 100 percent of the time, every day, every breath, for now the past two years. It has recently become much, much worse.

    Other minor symptoms is a very tight neck and feeling like I need to "pop" it constantly, a tired lower back (especially when the spasming starts), pain in the front rib area of my left side (especially when spasming) and sometimes my arm/hand on my left side feels weird. My right arm and hand on my right side occasionally goes numb and gets painful, which my doctor attributed to a minor pinched nerve.

    When I breathe, ESPECIALLY when my back is spasming, I can hear lots of "popping" noises in my ears, which sound like they are coming from joints in my back: similar sounds to when a person pops their knuckles.

    MRI results of my lower back showed nothing remarkable. X-ray of my thoracic spine came back fine. My upper back and thoracic spine have not been MRIed.

    My family doctor sent me to a pain management doctor, who suspected my ribs were sublaxating. She put me on pain medication, muscle relaxants, and I went to a physical therapist for about a month. None of the above ever completely gets rid of the pushing feeling, and my back still goes into spasm.

    My pain management doctor just tells me to keep taking the pain killer and muscle relaxant--which I really don't feel is doing anything at all.

    My family doctor suggested I go to a deep tissue massage therapist. The massage therapist mentioned that all of my muscles, especially teres major/minor and lateral dorsi were especially tight, which could be putting extra pressure on my ribs--causing the "pushing" feeling. She mentioned that she felt some scar tissue around my teres minor. I've had five weekly 1.5-hour long (very painful and expensive) deep tissue massages. For about 8 hours after I leave, I have only slight "pushing" pain. The pain ALWAYS returns, though.

    I have been stretching twice daily--stretches that the physical therapist and massage therapist suggested. These feel good, and I can tell they are good for my back, but they are not solving my problem.

    The ONLY things that helps relieve the pain slightly is a) the deep tissue massage b) my TENS unit and c) laying in bed for a long, long time, which really isn't an option because of...well...my LIFE. Shortly after I stop any of these three methods, my pain comes right back. Even hydrocodone and muscle relaxants do nothing but make me feel woozy--the pushing sensation still exists (though, I will admit, the pain in the sensation is decreased).

    And now, for the past two days, my entire left side of my body has been in complete spasm. My muscles are hard to the touch. I am having trouble breathing, I am fatigued, and quite honestly, scared. I can't miss work because we are so busy, so staying home in bed is not an option. I wear my TENS unit as often as I can around the office, and I'm out of money temporarily for deep tissue massages (last one was a week ago).

    I am tired of living with this pain and it's really starting to take a toll on my life and my finances, and I fully regret not going to the doctor when this first started two years ago.

    Please--does anyone have an idea of what's going on?
    I am feeling everything you described, my left shoulderblade is so tight I can't take a deep breathe.. I felt a snap in the left side and since then my breathing is so bad.
    I have had mri, nerve test of the ulna nerve, ct scan and the doctors can not find anything... I also have massage, chiro, osteo, physio taken every single muscle tablet, nerve tablet and no help.. I have been feeling this for two years and everyday I cry, im only 36 years and suffering..
    If you know what it is please let me know.. I need to get my life back!
  • Mala, I strongly believe that there is an underlying cause for all pain problems so please keep pushing for diagnostics to identify your pain generator.

    For me trigger point/pressure point injections of Botox & steroids into those muscles really, really helped. The lidocaine & steroids helped a bit but not as good & didn't last as long. I found the botox worked best if I iced straight after, continued to stretch following the advise of my PT & massage specialist AND took muscle relaxants. After the initial ice to reduce the swelling from the shots a nice hot water bottle became my friend!

    We're all different. I hope this routine will help you as much as it did me. I'm sorry, I know how crippling that pain can be. Best of luck ;-)
    Osteoarthritis & DDD.
  • EnglishGirl said:
    Mala, I strongly believe that there is an underlying cause for all pain problems so please keep pushing for diagnostics to identify your pain generator.

    For me trigger point/pressure point injections of Botox & steroids into those muscles really, really helped. The lidocaine & steroids helped a bit but not as good & didn't last as long. I found the botox worked best if I iced straight after, continued to stretch following the advise of my PT & massage specialist AND took muscle relaxants. After the initial ice to reduce the swelling from the shots a nice hot water bottle became my friend!

    We're all different. I hope this routine will help you as much as it did me. I'm sorry, I know how crippling that pain can be. Best of luck ;-)
    Thankyou for your reply, i am still yet to find out what is going on, i cant live like this...
    I think i also have winged shoulder and i feel thats where my pain is coming from.. im so scared!
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