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Medtronics SCS vs Boston Scientific SCS

RickilalasRRickilalas Posts: 559
edited 09/19/2013 - 7:24 PM in Spinal Cord Stimulation
Hello everyone
At this time I have a medtronics SCS. implanted with paddles and I have a trial going on with a Boston Scientific.SCS both for the lumbar area covering from the waist down.
Very interesting test. Yes I am using both units at the same time and also each one separate also for a good comparison. This is a very rare chance and a very rare way to do things.
I am very lucky to have a pain management doctor that fought for me to try this out.
This has opened my eyes a lot.
I will answer any question anyone has on the plus and minuses of the two unit.
They are similar but with some major differences.
Please keep in mind I love both companies and will not bash either one.
Any questions please ask away.
The BS trial will be removed Friday but I will have the medtronics unit until I decide which way I will be going.

Rick
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  • Rickilalas said:
    Hello everyone
    At this time I have a medtronics SCS. implanted with paddles and I have a trial going on with a Boston Scientific.SCS both for the lumbar area covering from the waist down.
    Very interesting test. Yes I am using both units at the same time and also each one separate also for a good comparison. This is a very rare chance and a very rare way to do things.
    I am very lucky to have a pain management doctor that fought for me to try this out.
    This has opened my eyes a lot.
    I will answer any question anyone has on the plus and minuses of the two unit.
    They are similar but with some major differences.
    Please keep in mind I love both companies and will not bash either one.
    Any questions please ask away.
    The BS trial will be removed Friday but I will have the medtronics unit until I decide which way I will be going.

    Rick
    Rick, this is indeed a unique spot for you to research both at once.
    I am having the BS with paddles installed on the 27th of this month after a very successful trial with perc leads. The rep assures me she can do the job with paddles and they are more secure in the long run.
    Not asking for a bashing at all, but a comparison would be appreciated. I have damaged L nerves with constant burning wet and shooting pains all down my right seaboard! Hip, butt, leg/thigh, calf, foot, heel, toes, and some on the left at times too. Since my trial, it has gotten much much worse. Not sure if its from having used the SCS or if my body knows I'm on the last leg before I fix it! Pun intended although a poor one.
  • RickilalasRRickilalas Posts: 559
    edited 09/20/2013 - 6:59 PM
    64pvolvo1800
    This was a great opportunity for me and I did learn a lot from it.
    I will.write more.about the.comparison in a few.days.
    I will say your going in the right direction with the BS unit.
    If I was starting out I would now ask for the BS unit. I know we don't always get a choice if our doctors work with one company only but I would ask for them.
    A few short reason
    The remote on the BS is better but be careful it's very expensive if you lose it or break it.
    Paddles.for BS are smaller
    BS can program the paddles or.contacs slightly better with more electrical.control.
    Medtronics has two Ports for up to 16 contacts BS has four Ports for 32 contacts
    In my mind the BS was easier for the programmer to dial in the coverage.

    In my case I need a new additional lead below my paddle.
    With my medtronics unit it's full and no way to.add without a second unit.
    If I had a BS I could just add a lead.
    Now my choice is add a.second unit either med or BS or remove just my med unit and implant a BS unit with another lead for the foot.
    If my surgeon gets on board I will ask to replace my med unit with the BS.

    My medtronics unit has saved my life.from pain. I have no real.complaints about it or any of my reps. This isn't easy because so many people have done a lot for me when I needed it.
    But at this time I feel.BS just has a better unit.

    I hope you're trial goes well
    Keep in touch and always feel.free to.ask anything
    Rick
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  • That endorses my own experience w the BS and I hope to report back soon. How long after implant were you able to use the SCS?
  • Hi
    When I had my implant they woke me up in the OR to test it. Then moved the paddle up two levels. I woke up in recovery and the rep was there he gave me two programs right then and we made a appointment for one week later to reprogram. My implant took two extra hours to do because that how it goes with me. So I left the hospital with a working SCS with two programs. Six hours in all. The next week I had four good working programs and one was so good I used it most of the time. Remember these have a chip in them that tells all. How much you use it and what programs you use.
    Your going to love it if it gets placed right and programmed right.
    I do not know why but a few doctors have the patient wait for a week or two before turning it on. I see no reason for that at all

    Good luck and ask the rep to go over and give you all the options that you can handle they can do more for you when they feel you can handle it.

    Hope you get some help from this.

    Rick
  • Doc tells me he doesn't want the SCS turned on for at least a week post OP. did all the tests and except for my pulse being 50, all looks like a go. The pulse is a red flag I guess but shouldn't be a problem with all my surgeries under my belt :(.
    Ever since I dropped the 115 lbs, my pulse and bp have been low instead of high.

    Surgery Friday at 11:00
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  • TerriPTTerriP Posts: 301
    edited 09/24/2013 - 4:48 AM
    lets you turn on bet not recharge after surgery. Theres so much swelling
  • backbback Posts: 190
    edited 09/24/2013 - 6:12 AM
    I have a Medtronic, started using the day it was implanted and charged the first time 1 week later. It depends on the doctor.
  • I see a real conflict about to happen. Yesterday, almost 3 weeks post implant I was at pre surgery pain all day. Emailed her and like begged for reprogram tomorrow. "It takes 2 months to scar in be patient" Let her be in pain. Guess it was working better than I thought as yesterday I had a near meltdown. Better today, but by 3:00 pm Im hurting so this is new yet.
  • I see a real conflict about to happen. Yesterday, almost 3 weeks post implant I was at pre surgery pain all day. Emailed her and like begged for reprogram tomorrow. "It takes 2 months to scar in be patient" Let her be in pain. Guess it was working better than I thought as yesterday I had a near meltdown. Better today, but by 3:00 pm Im hurting so this is new yet.
  • Terri
    I would ask your doctors office to get some more numbers for reps. Unless your in a small area you should have several. I never waited more then two days for a medtronics rep and if it was a emergency they would be there that day. I have seven reps now a few weeks ago I had only five but in my area they cover for each other because things never take the time it should. Now with having so many reps I have learned so much about skill and education and experience having so much to do with your success. Yes I have two that are really good and I know when it's a problem and I can tell them I need them and they arrange it for me and don't pass me off to who ever is closest or not busy. They have a range of about 90 miles they don't mind driving. I would always work it out with their schedule so I wasn't a pest to them but they would do almost anything for me. This is why I am reluctant to jump ship and go with BS but my BS rep dialed me in real quick and covered the ankle pain in about ten mins of programming. The first night my ankle pain was gone but my lumbar back was so.sore from the pressure needed to get through my scar tissue. The second night I slept 14 hours straight. That showed me how good it was.

    On the recharging the first time they have a UN written rule that the surgeon who did the implant is to see you and approve that your healing ok with no infection before using the charger. A med rep told me that and I asked a second one about it and she also said that's how they do it.

    On your programming they should be able to get you dialed in better for now and yes I had changes at two weeks then four weeks then about three months and the best at six months
    After that I didn't keep track but it did change here and there. Not one ever complained and they always took what time it took to get me what would work for awhile.
    I do.want to say I could have a second medtronics unit implanted and maybe get by but I feel the BS just has better technology which helps in setting your coverage. They have a real nice app on a tablet with lots of information the medtronics doesn't have. Keep in mind there is no book saying what will work and what will not. It's all trial and error. They should be able to work into the area you need. This is important and if she doesn't get it next time ask for another person. Don't get shy your paying for this.
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