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Help, any support would be great. Feeling alone and depressed.

I have had pain off and on for a long time. For some reason about 8 weeks ago I woke up with really bad pain, especially on my whole back. Now my joints have been hurting and there has been some swelling. For me, my pain level can get up to a 10 if I am not on pain meds. I have been on Vicodin 5-325 for about 8 weeks. My body has built a tolerance to this so I am taking more then prescribed.

I was prescribed to take 1 pill every 6 hours. I take about 5-6 at one time within a day. This is the only way I have been getting relief. I see a pain specialist on Jan 6th. My current doctor has ruled out arthritis. She has ordered an MRI. I have tried many if not all over the counter pain meds. I do heat and ice which only helps a little. I have taken a couple of baths and real hot showers and also only helps a little.

I am currently doing acupuncture, which only helps for a few hours after my treatment. I have been to 3 chiropratice apts. and 3 physical therepy apts. I feel the acupuncture helps the most.

I have also been to the ER about three times. They only give me more Vicodin, which only helps if I take higher doses. This last trip to the ER they gave me a Narcotic injection and it helped my pain for a few hours. I'm curious to know what the pain specialist will say.

I have also been taking Gabapentine which was prescribed by my pshych nurse and my primary doc increased the dose. I looked up side effects on this med and is says can cause pain and swelling in the joints. I am cutting back on it. I probably should wait to see what the specialist says about it but I am tired of taking lots of Vicodin. I am now addicted to it. I am addicted to the euphoric feeling it gives me.

I have a very addictive personality. I just celebrated 20 years without alcohol on Dec. 3rd. Now I have to deal with this addiction. I don't want to get off of it because of this but I know I need to get off of it. It's bad for my liver.

Has anyone else had problems with addiction? Of course I mainly take it for my pain. I wake up every morning in excrutiating pain. I almost want to cry. I take my pain meds right away and I feel I can function.

Any support or help would be greatly appreciated. I am tired of this situation I am in. It's getting me down. I feel alone and depressed in this. I am trying not to think worse case scenario, like Lupus or something like that.

Lynn

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  • The use of pain medications is only ONE small part of the overall picture of pain management. Since you already have a history of addiction, and what you describe as a very addictive personality, it is not tolerance issues that you are dealing with, it is the addiction issue..
    There is no reason for anyone to take more of any medication that they are prescribed. If your pain levels were truly a 10, then you would not be able to function, let alone type on a computer.
    I would strongly suggest that you look into finding a pain management physician who also has a cross certfication in the treatment of addiction. That way, you have some support in learning to cope with chronic pain, and at the same time, some safeguards are put into place before you find yourself facing problems with the use of opiates.
    Tolerance does not occur in someone who has been taking a medication for only 8 weeks, for some reason, you are giving yourself permission to take more, by telling yourself that your pain is a "10" and you must have relief.....
    I suggest that you read this post and start by really examining what you are doing with the medications. I am NOT saying that you don't have pain, but I am saying that you are going down a road that is going to lead to big problems for you and for your doctor if you take more than prescribed.
    http://www.spine-health.com/forum/pain/chronic-pain/chronic-pain-treatment-step-step
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  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 11,649
    a pain level starts to reach over 8, its time to get to the Emergency Room. Once it hits 9, you really can not function by yourself.. 10 you are out of it.

    So when you say your pain level is 10, I hope that you are in the ER and not at home. Although pain is a very subjective feeling and there are no real instruments to identify the pain level. But it has been common practice in the medical field, that anyone at the top of any scale needs to be immediate care of medical professionals.

    As Sandi talked about, medications is just one piece of total pain management, especially narcotics. I would not change your daily dosage of Neurotin (Gabapentin) without getting approval from your doctor (unless your side effects can become dangerous to yourself of another individual)

    Curious what was the rationale behind the doctor that prescribed Physical Therapy? They had to have some basic diagnosis. You have not mentioned anything about diagnostic tests, nor have you identified what your problem actually is.

    When its disc related, seeing a chiropractor can potentially cause problems. They are not normally trained in the fine science of the spinal nerve and discs.

    I would not worry about any addiction at this point. As Sandi pointed out, 8 weeks is a short time. What you might be feeling is that the vicodin is giving you that short immediate pain relief. So that for a couple of hours, you feel pretty good. When that wears off, you look for another dosage. Thats one of the reasons the doctor details the frequency of when the pills can be taken.

    I wished you would have read the Forum Rules and FAQ. That would have helped you lay out a thread so that we would have much more information about your situation.

    Dont make any changes to what has already be prescribed to you. Alterations can come only from the doctor.
    Ron DiLauro Veritas-Health Forums Manager
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • j.howiejj.howie Brentwood, Ca., USAPosts: 1,732
    There is nothing worse. And there is no need to. Did you know that pain and depression pretty much run hand in hand. This forum is full of people JUST like you. You're not alone. Not even in the slippery slope of Addiction-Free Pain Management. There is a workbook titled exactly that. A relapse prevention counseling workbook, by Steven F. Grinstead.
    Having this condition can make depression worse.
    Go see a Pain management Dr. Tell him about your pain and your past addictions. He will work with you, if you're honest, and have you sign a prescription contract.
    I'm not on the forums that much anymore. But I felt the need to let you know someone has been there and done that! And there are many more. It can be managed. ALL OF IT!
    Jim

    Click my name to see my Medical history
    You get what you get, not what you deserve......I stole that from Susan (rip)
    Today is yours to embrace........ for tomorrow, who knows what might be starring you in the face!
  • photobuffpphotobuff Posts: 8
    edited 01/01/2014 - 5:30 PM
    I am new to this as well, managing the pain, grieving the loss, not sure what tomorrow will bring. So you are not alone. Many of us are here because we are seeking solutions and some people have been where you are and have found something that has worked for them. Today I am feeling my tingling again coming back in my hand and foot after a good 5 or 6 days where I felt normal. I just hate that feeling and know to take some meds. Take care, kb
    60 year old male: See my Medical History tor full report on my condition, now diagnosed as Cervical Stenosis C5/C6 and C6/C7 moderate to severe.
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  • LynnMiller said:
    I have had pain off and on for a long time. For some reason about 8 weeks ago I woke up with really bad pain, especially on my whole back. Now my joints have been hurting and there has been some swelling. For me, my pain level can get up to a 10 if I am not on pain meds. I have been on Vicodin 5-325 for about 8 weeks. My body has built a tolerance to this so I am taking more then prescribed.

    I was prescribed to take 1 pill every 6 hours. I take about 5-6 at one time within a day. This is the only way I have been getting relief. I see a pain specialist on Jan 6th. My current doctor has ruled out arthritis. She has ordered an MRI. I have tried many if not all over the counter pain meds. I do heat and ice which only helps a little. I have taken a couple of baths and real hot showers and also only helps a little.

    I am currently doing acupuncture, which only helps for a few hours after my treatment. I have been to 3 chiropratice apts. and 3 physical therepy apts. I feel the acupuncture helps the most.

    I have also been to the ER about three times. They only give me more Vicodin, which only helps if I take higher doses. This last trip to the ER they gave me a Narcotic injection and it helped my pain for a few hours. I'm curious to know what the pain specialist will say.

    I have also been taking Gabapentine which was prescribed by my pshych nurse and my primary doc increased the dose. I looked up side effects on this med and is says can cause pain and swelling in the joints. I am cutting back on it. I probably should wait to see what the specialist says about it but I am tired of taking lots of Vicodin. I am now addicted to it. I am addicted to the euphoric feeling it gives me.

    I have a very addictive personality. I just celebrated 20 years without alcohol on Dec. 3rd. Now I have to deal with this addiction. I don't want to get off of it because of this but I know I need to get off of it. It's bad for my liver.

    Has anyone else had problems with addiction? Of course I mainly take it for my pain. I wake up every morning in excrutiating pain. I almost want to cry. I take my pain meds right away and I feel I can function.

    Any support or help would be greatly appreciated. I am tired of this situation I am in. It's getting me down. I feel alone and depressed in this. I am trying not to think worse case scenario, like Lupus or something like that.

    Lynn
    Hi Lynn,
    You have good info here. . I been on Kadian for 30 years,with all pain meds you will feel depressed. The meds you are on now goes from high to low fast. Kadian is a 12 to 24 hour lasting. It's so so hard to get off any pain meds. Kadian gave me my life back when i had to work and put the kids through school but now that i'm retired, i been lowing the dose-from 500 mg a day -i'm now taking 90 mg. My pain is ok but my depressing and my life sucks. I lost the love of life. I don't want to go out and do anything. I use to go fishing or just go for walks with the wife. Be real careful with pain meds.
    Try everything to get the pain to go away but stay away from the pain meds if you can. It may give you your life back now but you will pay for it latter.
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