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Charlie Horse

Hi all,

I've posted in another board about having pain in the sacrum area of my back. Things are going on that I've never had before and was wondering if anyone else has had this or not.

First, I've had a L4-S1 ALIF Fusion in 2007. Osteoarthritis along with other DDD have set in and continually take oral meds and get routine facet joint injections. Recently, I've been having more pain the sacrum area and my PM thinks it's sciatica. But when I lay flat on my back in bed, my lower back begins throbbing and I have to reposition. The last few nights, I've been getting horrible Charlie Horses in my calf muscles in the middle of the night. I've woken up screaming from the pain twice. Last night I was able to keep from screaming, but the pain was still intense. I've never had this issue before.

Has anyone else had this? I don't think my calcium or potassium is out of whack since I feel ok otherwise. This is really weird.


Several Epidurals, L4-S1 360 ALIF, Numerous Facet Joint Injections, RFA x2


  • Sound like my sciatica symptoms, except mine was my whole leg.
    If you look on google, there are graphics which show which nerve involves which part of the leg.
    Compressed Discs/DDD - L2/L3, L3/L4
    Major Herniation - L4/L5
    Bulging Disc - L5/S1
    "no healthy 24 year old's back should look like this without a major trauma"
    MicroDisc L4/L5 Nov 7, 2013
  • Yep, I looked it up and S1-S2 are suspect. That would agree with the additional discomfort I'm feeling these days. I'm thinking my next PM appointment may last a little longer than normal.

    Several Epidurals, L4-S1 360 ALIF, Numerous Facet Joint Injections, RFA x2
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  • SarahLindeauSarahLindeau Posts: 765
    edited 01/27/2014 - 5:24 AM
    Those middle of the night Charlie horses are insane! I had them continually when I was pregnant as the nerves are compressed when laying down. I wish I knew how to prevent them, but I do have a helpful tip the next time you have one:

    Force your toes on the affected leg towards your shin as hard and fast as you can. Your calf muscle is tightening, and the toe-to-shin trick will force it to release a bit. The first rep will be the toughest. If you can get out of bed as well, it can help to stand on your toes and then lower yourself to the floor, over and over again.

    Hope you feel better!
    2015: Thoracic protrusions C7-T1, T3-4, T6-8
    Dec'13: 360FusionL4-S1 w/bone graft
    2013: 3x2-level disc injections: 12mo surgery postponement
    Dec'12: DiscogramL4-S1
    Sep/Oct'12: Bi-lateral Rhizo AblationsL4- S1
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