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Info about being "red flagged"

MSGMSG Posts: 296
edited 03/20/2014 - 7:27 AM in Pain Medications
I am very new to this whole idea of being "red flagged by the DEA if you take dr prescribed narcotics. I guess I'm really naive, & missed news articles on this topic, because I honestly had no idea that this could happen until I joined this forum. Boy, have I learned a lot, thank you all!

I was wondering how you know you are "red flagged", so I did some google searches on the subject, & while I didn't exactly find my answer, I did read some horror stories on other forums!! I also went on the DEA website, & there is a ton of info on there that makes for some very interesting reading. Laws regarding narcotics are listed state by state.

If you've got anxiety meds, I suggest you take them before you do this research, because after all that reading my anxiety level went through the roof :)

Mods, I hope it's ok to say DEA website since it's a government agency?

Saying DEA website has nothing to do with it being a government agency. The rules are in place to review providing external links

Ron DiLauro, Spine-Health System Moderator 03/15/14
We can't always control the cards we are dealt in life, but we can control how we play the hand
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  • I...have never heard of this. Apparently I am really naive too lol. Can you share any more info?
    36 yr old with one degenerative disc (L5-S1)
    3 rounds of Epidurals in 2013
    6 PT visits in 2013
    Microdiscectomy L5 S1 on 9/5/2013.
    Re-herniated in January 2014.
    Epidural on 3/3/14.
    A/PLIF (L5-S1) 6/3/14
  • if you take meds the way they are directed and not go to other doctors and go by your contract, there is nothing to worry about. if you don't then your pain doctor will drop you in a heart beat. those who follow rules have nothing to worry about those who don't should worry.
    jon
    I have 4 fusions from L5-3, the latest last May '12 where they fixed my disc that broke.They went through my side this time. I take 40 mg of oxycontin 4x a day and 4 fenatyl lollipops 300 micro gms 4x a day.
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  • That you are right. The problem is making mistakes because you had no clue about all this! I'm just glad I found this forum before I screw up even more!
    We can't always control the cards we are dealt in life, but we can control how we play the hand
  • Do a search on the forum about being "red flagged". Tons of members have posted about this & their experiences, & how to keep that from happening, like what Jon wrote.
    We can't always control the cards we are dealt in life, but we can control how we play the hand
  • Thanks for these comments as I must be naive also!!
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  • I will look into it. I don't have an actual "pain doctor". Just my primary and my surgeon. Both are tight with giving out pain meds so I should be alright
    36 yr old with one degenerative disc (L5-S1)
    3 rounds of Epidurals in 2013
    6 PT visits in 2013
    Microdiscectomy L5 S1 on 9/5/2013.
    Re-herniated in January 2014.
    Epidural on 3/3/14.
    A/PLIF (L5-S1) 6/3/14
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 11,347
    For the most part, you have an idea if you are a candidate to being red flagged. Everyone knows about the DEA and how for a number of years now they have been clamping down.

    So, if you have done anything, lets say for the past 5 years that might not hold up in court you might be in trouble

    But for most of us, we will know IF and WHEN we did something that could have raised that red flag. But when you have done everything ok and by the books, you never have anything to worry about.

    A prime example would be for a patient who has chronic pain, but their current doctor will no longer prescribe narcotics. So that same patient goes to another doctor, even one they have seen before, plead their case and get a prescription for a narcotic medication. Once they fill that, and the pharmacist checks, they can easily see that you received narcotics from one doctor, but that stopped and now you are getting them from another doctor. The pharmacist has no idea as to WHY your previous doctor stopped writing scripts or what are the circumstances that a new doctor wrote scripts. They only see that it happened.

    Trust your pharmacist. They have a lot of power. I've been getting Oxycodone, various dosages from the same doctor for over 6 years now. From time to time, she will be on vacation, so that a new prescription for the same medication is written by a different doctor. The fact that the two doctors work in the same practice is not of concern from the pharmacist. They look at things in black and white. So, when I have that situation and it has happened several times over the past 6 years, when I present the script to be filled, I tell the pharmacist thatThe doctor that wrote this script is in practice with my normal doctor. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact them. The fact that I mentioned that up front and that my pharmacist knows me, they have never questioned that.

    However, when I was much younger, I went to see a Pain Mgt doctor who after reviewing my case, wrote a script for some narcotic medications. My original doctor called me to basically scold e and say that I can not get medications from two different doctors. I apologized and said that would never happen again. But just the phone call at home from a doctor was enough to make me understand, that would never happen again. That was over 20 years ago and nothing like that has happened since.
    Ron DiLauro Veritas-Health Forums Manager
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • Thanks for the clarification. I understand why there would be red flags, just didn't know if I would be one to raise them.
    36 yr old with one degenerative disc (L5-S1)
    3 rounds of Epidurals in 2013
    6 PT visits in 2013
    Microdiscectomy L5 S1 on 9/5/2013.
    Re-herniated in January 2014.
    Epidural on 3/3/14.
    A/PLIF (L5-S1) 6/3/14
  • why people would not know if they have been tagged is a mystery to me. it is pretty clear as to how and what drs and pharmacies do and why. if you don't know then you are probably a candidate. it has been explained clearly in this post as to how one is tagged. what do you not understand?
    jon
    I have 4 fusions from L5-3, the latest last May '12 where they fixed my disc that broke.They went through my side this time. I take 40 mg of oxycontin 4x a day and 4 fenatyl lollipops 300 micro gms 4x a day.
  • But remember there are a lot of people who are just figuring out what a pm is, & what they can & cannot due. Some of us are fairly new to the use of long term narcotics, so there is a learning curve. I'm sorry for those of you that have been in pain so long that you know how "the system" works, but am eternally grateful that you have shared your knowledge with all those who are still in the earlier stages of our journey.
    We can't always control the cards we are dealt in life, but we can control how we play the hand
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