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dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 13,525
I think that anyone who has been dealing with chronic pain for a number of years can get depressed from time to time.
I also believe our younger folks who just started to deal with spinal problems and pain can get depressed.

Some times you hear the word depression and you think the worst. That the person must seek help, there is something wrong with them.

I disagree. (to an extent) We can all get depressed over something. A lost job, having no money to pay the bills, lovers quarrels, problem with children
or family, etc. This can go on and on.

I think the major difference is how we deal with this depression. If we let it get the best of us, sit down sulk, frown upon everything, stay away from friends, etc
that is bad. That can easily lead to a downward spiral for more depression which can be so hard to climb out of.

But when we know something is depressing, we have to figure out a way to deal with it. Somethings are out of control, so, we make the most of that. When its things
within our control, we need to find ways to work on that or fix it.

I get depressed just reading some of the threads/posts from different members. I feel for their pain. I've been through a lot, but when I hear how much they
are suffering or missing out on, it hurts, it saddens me. At times I try to let those folks know that things can get better.

Life is good. It can take some wicked turns, it can turn us upside down, but living is GREAT
Ron DiLauro Veritas-Health Forums Manager
I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences 


  • I used to use the word 'depression' very freely. I still do on occasion but try to change my vocabulary. I've had the 'blues' over the years. Things have got me down & made me sad but a good action plan or finding something else to obsess on has always done the trick.
    Towards the end of my last pregnancy I was pretty blue. A doctor had done an 'adjustment' on me & crippled me. Erasing the years of hard work I'd put into my body in preparation. Other things got me down.
    After we were home from the hospital I had my daughter in a cosleeper next to my bed. I reached around it to get a drink of water & spilt it over myself. I just lay there, wet, cold but too exhausted to move. When I woke my long hair looked like a yeti! A week later it looked a lot worse! I felt like I was existing in a bubble with my baby. It was colder & darker, like a moody movie. I couldn't identify how much time had passed. I felt like I was hobbling through my life in tears, moving around other people (my parents were staying at the time) put they were in a different plain of existence. My husband would suggest I'd take a shower so I did. It's like his voice woke me for a moment then it vanished & I was alone again.

    I'm just trying to describe something that's pretty impossible to describe...Depression. Not being moved, or sad, or stressed, or blue. For me it was complete & utter depression. I've never known anything like it before or since but it was terrifying on many levels. I never thought I would suffer with it & have to confess I never had a lot of patience with others who said they were. Why not just snap out of it? Get some help? Think positive!
    I was completely 'gone' & my loved ones didn't know what to do. My parents changed their flight & returned to England early, thinking I needed to get on with things on my own. My husband was suffering his own sleep deprivation & had no patience with me. Both were the worst possible things for me & sent me into an even darker place.
    The one saving grace in my head was my kids were in 'the bubble' with me. I now have a deeper understanding of women who do terrible things in that situation. I always believed people would recognize post natal depression (made worse by chronic pain) I'm close to my family but they were dealing with their own 'stuff' & were blind to how desperate the situation was. How can no-one see?
    If you know that it's more than 'the blues', if anything I say sounds familiar, please talk to your doctor, any doctor. My brother took his own life (he didn't have anyone in his bubble to keep going for) even though he had family & kids. I know how easy it would be to loose the last grain of control. I guess I'm just saying there's a huge difference between the word 'depression' we use so easily & DEPRESSION.
    Osteoarthritis & DDD.
  • Motor1MMotor1 Pittsburgh, PaPosts: 606
    I have personal experiences with depression also. About 11 years ago, one of my husbands relatives did something very horrific to my young daughter. This was very traumatic for my family. After my initial reaction of rage, I went into a state of depression. I would stay in bed for days. I took a leave of absence from work. My husband finally convinced me into doing family therapy. We were all put on medication. I think the therapy worked more than the meds, though. After a few months, the meds were no longer needed. None of us liked the fog it put us in. I decided that I wasn't able to help my daughter through this if I couldn't deal with it myself. I was really in a dark place. I think from going through that experience, it has helped me cope with my health issues I have today. I realize that I have no control at what's been dealt to me & I never want to go back to that dark world I lived in for many months. It would be so easy to sit here everyday & get depressed & feel sorry for myself but I won't allow myself to do it. Everyday is a new day! Some are better, some not so good. But I always try to find something good in my day. Even if it's just face timing on the phone with my 3 year old grandson.
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  • itsautonomicitsautonomic LouisianaPosts: 2,561
    EG, I agree with you I never thought I would know depression, my father committed suicide also as you know and their is definitly a difference in clinical depression, situational depression and blues. Trying to treat some only on own could be recipe for disaster in some cases. When I was going to school and suffering thoracic issues I thought I had depression, but i realized after going through limbo and things with no treatment or cure I really did not know depression during school. I was diagnosed with situational depression with my first injury and clinical depression with second stuff, I can tell you I did things I never could have even believed I could have done previously, as if I was not in control of my mind, i would often wake up from being awake if that makes any sense. Clinical depression is when you cannot see hope or a way out no matter how hard you try and its a very scary , lonely place to be, but I did get a new understanding in terms of my father's depression and a glimpse of what it must have felt like. Someone believing they will be in the worst pain they have ever felt the rest of their life with no relief does just horrible things to the mind.
    People definitly used depression to much IMHO also.
    Do your due dilegence, trust you know your body and question everything if it does not fit. Advocate for yourself and you will be suprised what will be revealed trusting your body and instinct.
  • itsautonomicitsautonomic LouisianaPosts: 2,561
    I am definitely depressed reading posts where no diagnosis can be found and the person is facing severe pain, possibly spreading, possibly progressing, having feelings of no one believing them or being doubted, has heard its in their head, depression takes over,feeling that the diagnosis given just doesn't seem to match or have evidence to support, slowly missing more and more social things and staying away due to pain, then ultimately feeling crazy themselves bouncing back and forth between doctors . That is a time that breeds such fear and confusion it's all so overwhelming as you want to get better and fight , but you don't even know what you are fighting . it definitive doesn't get easier when the right diagnosis comes , but proper treatment comes with proper diagnosis. For those not so lucky to get immediate diagnosis who are waiting , looking , suffering its out there , but sometimes takes a lot of looking. It's another part of this spine/chronic pain journey that gets left out sometimes . How important a correct diagnosis and subsequent treatment is to the mindset Ie. Depression
    Do your due dilegence, trust you know your body and question everything if it does not fit. Advocate for yourself and you will be suprised what will be revealed trusting your body and instinct.
  • Owie_999OOwie_999 Posts: 176
    edited 01/22/2015 - 1:17 AM
    I wouldn't say I've suffered depression but certainly have had the 'blues' feeling several times. Getting a life long diagnosis & major surgery for my daughter when she was 12 months old (she's now 14) & the rest of the stuff that goes with it prepared me for my own health issues. My GP made me laugh when he said to me about 8-9months ago 'You're clearly not depressed, just xxxxx off!'
    Life can be extremely difficult at times. The key for me is to ask for help, cry over a glass of wine, then try & find a positive to move on.

    Microdiscectomy L5S1 January 2014
    Microdiscectomy L5S1 March 2014
    Fusion L5S1 11th August 2014
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  • itsautonomicitsautonomic LouisianaPosts: 2,561
    Veronica, I was very mad also!!! Couple years ago I was diagnosed with situational depression, which basically meant iwithout my health issues i am a happy person lol. Crazy to think something could have this far reaching impact in ones life. I still miss who I was to this day and it's been 10 yrs since health went south
    Do your due dilegence, trust you know your body and question everything if it does not fit. Advocate for yourself and you will be suprised what will be revealed trusting your body and instinct.
  • EnglishGirlEEnglishGirl Posts: 1,825
    edited 01/22/2015 - 5:37 AM
    My brother got 'very mad' at his health, doctors etc. but he put all of his efforts into his family. He moved, supporting the family buisiness, which isolated him from friends. Loosing his family was the last straw. I guess we all have a limit as to how much we can take. Chronic pain can make our lives shrink quite a bit. For some I know it's a hard earned carrier, or a loving family that keeps them going. It's those that build a strong foundation & endure despite everything. Those that can reach deep inside & find the strength to carry on with nothing but themselves to lean on that amaze me.
    Osteoarthritis & DDD.
  • itsautonomicitsautonomic LouisianaPosts: 2,561
    EG, the statement about lives shrinking is such a huge thing for me. I used to look at life like it was wide open, anything is possible, I can go or become anything with hard work. Life seems so small these days as thought is more about dealing with daily pain and health issues vs dreaming and future. I miss that feeling that anything is possible, and nothing holding me back. Probably been one of the tougher things for me.
    I also agree that everyone has their limit and it's different person to person.
    Do your due dilegence, trust you know your body and question everything if it does not fit. Advocate for yourself and you will be suprised what will be revealed trusting your body and instinct.
  • For me it's loss of control. I thought the world was my oyster to. Now so much of my existence is out of my control & it makes me feel powerless. I know I can think about what I can do, make the proverbial lemonade but knowing there's only a handful of things I could do to earn money...I couldn't work full time in an office for example....Will never have the kind of fantastic career I used to have. My doc's prescriptions & treatments allow me to function as I do & a simple change in policy could change my existence. There will always be times that I have no choice but to lean on others for the simplest things etc. robs me of any real independence.

    I've always been a glass half full (of something delicious) kind of girl but this thread is titled "Depression" & snow is in the forecast tonight. I used to love snow days. I do adore my kids glowing red noses & cheeks, the warm fire & my hot chocolate drinks but I dread the pain, the "No Mummy's got to go in now", the disappointment..... My body makes decisions for me, others have control over my standard of living. It could get a girl down if she let it. See I do have control over something (if my brain lets me!!!)
    Osteoarthritis & DDD.
  • I've been robbed for 14 yrs herniated , bulge disc N periformis syndrome ,I've done all procedures except surgery Orthopedic says nothing can be done. So I sit, walk , sleep in pain. Today both legs hurt so I take my meds and use tense unit. I did take a part time- live in job, it gets me out the house and helping someone in need is therapy for me.
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